Second woman says ex-VP Biden touched her inappropriately

[webfact]

Second woman says ex-VP Biden touched her inappropriately

By John Whitesides

 

FILE PHOTO: U.S. former Vice President Joe Biden delivers remarks at the First State Democratic Dinner in Dover, Delaware, U.S. March 16, 2019. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst/File Photo

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A Connecticut woman said Joe Biden touched her inappropriately and rubbed noses with her at a 2009 political fundraiser, becoming the second person in three days to accuse the former vice president of unwanted physical contact as he considers a White House run.

 

"It wasn't sexual, but he did grab me by the head," Amy Lappos, 43, told the Hartford Courant on Monday of her encounter with Biden at a Greenwich, Connecticut, event. "He put his hand around my neck and pulled me in to rub noses with me. When he was pulling me in, I thought he was going to kiss me on the mouth."

 

Lappos posted about the alleged incident in a Connecticut Women in Politics Facebook group on Sunday in response to an account by former Nevada state legislator Lucy Flores, who last week accused Biden of kissing her on the back of the head at a 2014 event.

 

The allegations could endanger a possible 2020 presidential run by Biden, who was vice president under President Barack Obama at the time of both alleged instances. He has been expected to announce a Democratic White House bid in the coming weeks and has been leading the Democratic presidential field in opinion polls.

 

Asked about the Connecticut allegation, a Biden spokesman pointed to Biden's statement on Sunday, when he said he did not believe he ever acted inappropriately during his many years in public life and on the campaign trail.

 

"I have offered countless handshakes, hugs, expressions of affection, support and comfort. And not once — never — did I believe I acted inappropriately," Biden said in the statement. "If it is suggested I did so, I will listen respectfully. But it was never my intention."

 

Biden has long been known for a warm and intimate campaign style, but his propensity for hugging and physical touching has come under new scrutiny in the #MeToo era as awareness about sexual assault and harassment has grown.

 

Lappos, a former aide to U.S. Representative Jim Himes, told the Courant she felt uncomfortable when Biden approached her at a fundraiser for Himes. She said she was in the kitchen with three or four other volunteers when Biden moved toward her.

 

"I never filed a complaint, to be honest, because he was the vice president. I was a nobody," said Lappos, who is now a freelance worker with nonprofit agencies. "There's absolutely a line of decency. There's a line of respect. Crossing that line is not grandfatherly. It's not cultural. It's not affection. It's sexism or misogyny."

 

Lappos did not immediately respond to a request for comment by Reuters.

 

Some Biden supporters rallied to his defence. Elizabeth Alexander, a former Senate and White House aide to Biden, wrote in a USA Today column that he supported women and was a champion for their rights even when it was not politically expedient.

 

(Editing by Colleen Jenkins and Howard Goller)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-04-02

[Jingthing]

Such reports give "me too" a bad name. People need to grow up and learn to distinguish the difference between actual sexual assault and the types of things Joe Biden and Al Franken are being / have been accused of that are not sexual assaults. Biden will likely weather this storm and he should weather this storm (which is not the same thing as thinking he is best choice but he might be). We may have learned something from Franken. Sacrificed for NOTHING. 

Edited April 1, 2019 by Jingthing

[faraday]

If that's 'touching inappropriately' - & you know the undertone the sjws/ looney feminists, are trying to achieve, then I think 'every man is a rapist'.

 

Father Christmas'll be 'up before the beak' soon!

 

I expect the sun & the daily fail will be all over this.

 

 

 

[ezzra]

The folly of human nature is when a certain groups of people who thought or convinced they were either neglected or mistreated, all of a sudden get some sort of power or awakening, often misuse, misinterpreted and go way overboard using those powers like a child given new toy and the case of #meetoo movements says it all...

Edited April 1, 2019 by ezzra

[teacherofwoe]

I wouldn't leave my daughter in the same room as him.

 

 

[canuckamuck]

There are compilation videos of Biden weirdly touching women and girls. Just search creepy uncle Joe on Youtube.

 

Edit @teacherofwoebeat me to it.

Edited April 1, 2019 by canuckamuck

[TopDeadSenter]

5 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said:

most likely has a political agenda attached as Biden is leading the Dems race at the moment.

I think you mean WAS. He is now completely toxic. Funny how these contenders are falling like flies. Biden - inappropriate behavior towards women in the age of #metoo. Warren - cultural appropriation. Klobuchar - abusive to staff. Cortez - laughing stock after her Green New Deal fails to get even a single vote.

 Who is next?

[lannarebirth]

I think he's just a touchy feely guy. There are lots of them and they are harmless. This looks like a political hit job.

 

 

 

Edited April 2, 2019 by lannarebirth

[pedro01]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Such reports give "me too" a bad name. People need to grow up and learn to distinguish the difference between actual sexual assault and the types of things Joe Biden and Al Franken are being / have been accused of that are not sexual assaults. Biden will likely weather this storm and he should weather this storm (which is not the same thing as thinking he is best choice but he might be). We may have learned something from Franken. Sacrificed for NOTHING. 

Translation: If it's a democrat, I don't believe the victim. If it's a Republican accused, I do.

 

Difference here: Creepy Joe's behaviour is well documented.

 

 

Look at the 2 guys in the background - says it all!

[Thainesss]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Such reports give "me too" a bad name. People need to grow up and learn to distinguish the difference between actual sexual assault and the types of things Joe Biden and Al Franken are being / have been accused of that are not sexual assaults. Biden will likely weather this storm and he should weather this storm (which is not the same thing as thinking he is best choice but he might be). We may have learned something from Franken. Sacrificed for NOTHING. 

 

Oh the hypocrisy. 

 

[pedro01]

21 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

I think he's just a touchy feely guy. There are lots of them and they are harmless. This looks like a hit job.

Of course - but this is a hit-job perpetrated by a new wave of young politicians that have no moral compass. 

 

They need to get people like Joe out, so there's room for more AOC's.

[Emdog]

Next up: thought crimes

[faraday]

“You are a slow learner, Winston."
"How can I help it? How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four."
"Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.”
― George Orwell, 1984

[bendejo]

Better this comes to the surface now rather than later, don't waste our time, Unc.

This will haunt him until he backs down, and there will be oppo research going back to his high school days.

If by some chance he gets to be the candidate you can bet that in October 2020 there will be a busload of accusers, Cosby-style.  It may all be lies and exaggerations but they won't be resolved by Election Day.  Can you already hear Janine Pirro?  And there go have it.

 

Keep an eye out for Dem candidates that get spoken of favorably by GOP types.  Like this:

Steve Bannon predicts Harris-Beto ticket has 'best shot' at beating Trump

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/29/steve-bannon-harris-orourke-2020-1243426

 

Do not lose site of the fact that in 2004 they helped to get the nomination for Kerry, because they had a silver bullet for him.  Cue Howard Dean enacting "The Scream."

 

 

[ThreeEyedRaven]

I find this totally hysterical. We have a sitting president with numerous cases against him involving sexual episodes outside marriage, and who freely admits to grabbing women by the pussy, but some want to crucify Joe Biden for alleged behaviour of a far lesser nature. Some people who continuously accuse the other side of double standards should examine their own man before throwing mud.

[lannarebirth]

Just now, ThreeEyedRaven said:

I find this totally hysterical. We have a sitting president with numerous cases against him involving sexual episodes outside marriage, and who freely admits to grabbing women by the pussy, but some want to crucify Joe Biden for alleged behaviour of a far lesser nature. Some people who continuously accuse the other side of double standards should examine their own man before throwing mud.

 

I think you'll find that it is members of his own party that are taking a swing at him. The other side is merely cheering them on. Looks like an old guard purge. I'm not a supporter of Biden for prez but he doesn't deserve this IMO. 

[Basil B]

1 hour ago, lannarebirth said:

I think he's just a touchy feely guy. There are lots of them and they are harmless. This looks like a political hit job.

 

 

 

I suppose there could be a lot of women who would say that I had touched them too if I were to put my head above the the political parapets.

 

Not that I was not invited to or they touched me too, but there again I doubt there are many Presidential candidates that have stepped foot in a Pattaya Go-Go.

[EVENKEEL]

10 minutes ago, ThreeEyedRaven said:

I find this totally hysterical. We have a sitting president with numerous cases against him involving sexual episodes outside marriage, and who freely admits to grabbing women by the pussy, but some want to crucify Joe Biden for alleged behaviour of a far lesser nature. Some people who continuously accuse the other side of double standards should examine their own man before throwing mud.

Let's be correct  here. Trump didn't admit grabbing anything, he bragged about it. Guess theirs a reason for calling him "Creepy Uncle Joe"

 

I'd say the socialist movement wants Biden gone. 

[Sticky Wicket]

3 hours ago, teacherofwoe said:

I wouldn't leave my daughter in the same room as him.

 

 

He is a very creepy old peado

Edited April 2, 2019 by Sticky Wicket

[connda]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

"I have offered countless handshakes, hugs, expressions of affection, support and comfort. And not once — never — did I believe I acted inappropriately,"

Uninvited "expressions of affection" are inappropriate.  Fondling children and women, touching them, kissing them - is inappropriate.  And there are so many instances to Biden 'inappropriately' touching women and young children on video - there is no way to disavow it.

Edited April 2, 2019 by connda

[attrayant]

8 minutes ago, connda said:

Uninvited "expressions of affection" are inappropriate.  Fondling children and women, touching them, kissing them - is inappropriate.  And there are so many instances to you 'inappropriately' touching women and young children on video - there is no way to disavow it.

 

How times have changed.

 

I grew up watching Richard Dawson kiss every single female contestant on The Family Feud for a ten-year stretch.  Apparently it was no big deal back then.  

 

I fully agree that Biden should be smart enough to know that the times have changed and that these kind of "everybody did it back in the day" things are no longer palatable by the majority of the public.

[Sticky Wicket]

12 minutes ago, attrayant said:

 

How times have changed.

 

I grew up watching Richard Dawson kiss every single female contestant on The Family Feud for a ten-year stretch.  Apparently it was no big deal back then.  

 

I fully agree that Biden should be smart enough to know that the times have changed and that these kind of "everybody did it back in the day" things are no longer palatable by the majority of the public.

Fair enough some people are tactile, but it's the way he does it. 

Kissing a contestant as they appear on a tv show is fine. Grabbing them from behind and kissing their neck, stroking their hair is weird

[Sticky Wicket]

I would not be very happy if a stranger was standing behind my daughter stroking her hair in a sexual way and then whispering in her ear

[Thainesss]

1 hour ago, ThreeEyedRaven said:

I find this totally hysterical. We have a sitting president with numerous cases against him involving sexual episodes outside marriage, and who freely admits to grabbing women by the pussy, but some want to crucify Joe Biden for alleged behaviour of a far lesser nature. Some people who continuously accuse the other side of double standards should examine their own man before throwing mud.

 

Its the lefts charge, and they are the headliners of the MeToo movement, so by their own standards we need to believe all women. That means Biden is done, unless the left wants to be glaring hypocrites. The right isnt the one railing on retarded statements like "believe all women", thats the left, and apparently only when its beneficial. 

[malibukid]

this PC BS is getting way out of hand.  

[thaibeachlovers]

14 minutes ago, Sticky Wicket said:

Fair enough some people are tactile, but it's the way he does it. 

Kissing a contestant as they appear on a tv show is fine. Grabbing them from behind and kissing their neck, stroking their hair is weird

I knew 18 years ago that it was inappropriate to comment on a woman's appearance in case it was taken the wrong way, and actually touching one was an absolute no no.

If Biden doesn't know that he isn't fit to be president.

[Sticky Wicket]

4 minutes ago, malibukid said:

this PC BS is getting way out of hand.  

Have you watched the tapes with all the kids??

[Sticky Wicket]

And I don't believe all those celebs should be dragged through the courts for 'sexual misconduct' from the 70s/80s.

Things were different then and people should not be judged by today's standards.

Watch the 70's/80s sitcoms and it was acceptable to touch a woman or wolf whistle or slap her arse. 

This thing with the kids is completely different

[Sticky Wicket]

I think it was appalling that they dragged people like Freddy Star, DLT etc through the courts 

[malibukid]

3 hours ago, pedro01 said:

Translation: If it's a democrat, I don't believe the victim. If it's a Republican accused, I do.

 

Difference here: Creepy Joe's behaviour is well documented.

 

 

Look at the 2 guys in the background - says it all!

who's the biker mama he has on his lap?

Edited April 2, 2019 by malibukid