Trump says vote on healthcare can wait until after 2020 election

[webfact]

Trump says vote on healthcare can wait until after 2020 election

 

U.S. President Donald Trump at the "2019 Prison Reform Summit" in the East Room of the White House in Washington, U.S., April 1, 2019. REUTERS/Yuri Gripas

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Monday he was willing to wait until after the 2020 presidential election to get Congress to vote on a new healthcare plan, giving Republicans time to develop a proposal to replace Obamacare.

 

Congressional Republicans have been unable thus far to draft a proposal to replace Democratic President Barack Obama's signature Affordable Care Act despite frequent vows to do so in recent years.

 

Trump's vow last week that the Republican Party will be "the party of healthcare" caught his fellow Republicans off guard after the Justice Department backed a lawsuit intended to wipe out Obamacare, which has helped millions of Americans get health insurance.

 

In a series of tweets on Monday night, Trump said Republicans are developing "a really great HealthCare Plan with far lower premiums (cost) & deductibles than Obamacare."

 

"In other words it will be far less expensive & much more usable than ObamaCare. Vote will be taken right after the Election when Republicans hold the Senate & win back the House," he said.

 

Trump's move suggests he is willing to debate the future of the U.S. healthcare system during the 2020 presidential election campaign than try to reach agreement on a plan sooner.

 

(Reporting By Steve Holland; editing by Darren Schuettler)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-04-02

[attrayant]

2 minutes ago, webfact said:

Trump says vote on healthcare can wait until after 2020 election

 

Good idea - let a democrat president and senate deal with the matter.  

 

 

Edited April 2, 2019 by attrayant

[thaibeachlovers]

Sounds reasonable. Makes it an election issue and forces the GOP leaders to do something about it.

IMO Trump is hoping the GOP will take back the house, which will make passing a new health care bill much easier.

[EVENKEEL]

Good idea, Focus on the Border Crisis, solve that first. If the Dems continue on their wacky path Trump for 2020 should be a walk in the park. 

[Thainesss]

Great. Focus on the border, and make healthcare a 2020 issue. 

 

Dems have nothing at this point, and their contenders are downright embarrassing, so all trump needs to do is go into cruise control and campaign like a mofo. 

 

 

[pegman]

So in other words someone just told him his party lost the House in the mid-terms.

[Boon Mee]

Trump is playing 3D chess while his opponents are struggling at checkers. 

[alanrchase]

Is this similar to the 10% middle class tax cut that was "ready to go" just before the midterms? What happened to that?

[mike324]

Come on Trump supporters now, what has he accomplish? I really fail to see a single thing he did that is actually benefiting American citizens as a whole? 

[isaanjohnno]

6 minutes ago, alanrchase said:

Is this similar to the 10% middle class tax cut that was "ready to go" just before the midterms? What happened to that?

Just Trump BS that the sheeple blindly lap up as gospel

[isaanjohnno]

17 minutes ago, mike324 said:

Come on Trump supporters now, what has he accomplish? I really fail to see a single thing he did that is actually benefiting American citizens as a whole? 

There is a wide chasm, between what the administration has said and what it has done.

Trump has achieved absolutely nothing for the working man— during his first two years in office. And he has learned even less -Not manners. Not economics. Not geopolitics. Not even simple decency.

 

 

 

[kamahele]

So Republicans can continue to talk about repeal and replace and then still offer no replace for two more years.

[Chomper Higgot]

Years of griping and moaning about the Affordable Care Act But then when it comes to a replacement Trump and the Republicans have nothing to offer.

 

 

[metisdead]

An offensive troll post has been removed. 

[farcanell]

3 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Good idea, Focus on the Border Crisis, solve that first....

 

3 hours ago, Thainesss said:

Great. Focus on the border, and make healthcare a 2020 issue.... 

Lovely.... support a fake crisis.... build a wall which will take years and years, and will arguably deliver nothing of value, whilst ignoring the real crisis of healthcare funding, accessibility and administration.... MAGA.

 

[farcanell]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Trump's vow last week that the Republican Party will be "the party of healthcare" caught his fellow Republicans off guard after the Justice Department backed a lawsuit intended to wipe out Obamacare, which has helped millions of Americans get health insurance.

Maybe he would be better off leaving everything until after the 2020 elections.... less confusing for his disciples.

 

[Jingthing]

22 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Years of griping and moaning about the Affordable Care Act But then when it comes to a replacement Trump and the Republicans have nothing to offer.

 

 

Exactly right.

45 is punting on this for multiple reasons --

They don't have a plan that would actually be decent.

They will never have a plan that would actually be decent.

The voters know that already -- witness the 2018 midterm results where HEALTH CARE was the top issue and voters said clearly, don't trust the republicans.

The republican house leaders reminded 45 of this -- better to prevent any focus on health care before 2020 because it's political poison.

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No, Mick Mulvaney, Republicans don’t have a respectable record on preexisting conditions

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/no-mick-mulvaney-republicans-dont-have-a-respectable-record-on-preexisting-conditions/2019/04/01/c1fd201e-54bd-11e9-8ef3-fbd41a2ce4d5_story.html

 

[phkauf]

1 hour ago, mike324 said:

Come on Trump supporters now, what has he accomplish? I really fail to see a single thing he did that is actually benefiting American citizens as a whole? 

Hmmm, a 47% increase in the DJIA for starters. This alone has benefited nearly everyone who owned stocks the past two years. You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. 

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, phkauf said:

Hmmm, a 47% increase in the DJIA for starters. This alone has benefited nearly everyone who owned stocks the past two years. You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. 

Some points --

 

Not everyone owns stocks.

If you're seriously suggesting presidents deserve full credit for stock market bull markets, you must also think they deserve full blame for bear markets.

If you're counting on ACA preexisting condition coverage for your health care, a rising stock portfolio won't save your life if it's taken away.

The voters get it -- see the 2018 midterm results where health care was the top issue. 

 

Be clear -- I'm not saying and nobody is saying that ACA is the perfect solution. It's obviously very flawed. But killing it as the 45 regime is actively doing (they've already greatly damaged it) and replacing it nothing or worse is … much worse.

 

The voters get it. The republicans know the voters get it. They don't want to get anywhere near the health care issue before the 2020 election. 

 

Edited April 2, 2019 by Jingthing

[cycolista]

1 hour ago, mike324 said:

Come on Trump supporters now, what has he accomplish? I really fail to see a single thing he did that is actually benefiting American citizens as a whole? 

I hear his golf game has improved.

[otherstuff1957]

If the Republicans are truly conservatives any health plan they come up with will either be totally opposed to their ideological principles or will not serve the needs of the ill or infirm.

 

A true conservative approach to health care would be to open up and deregulate the whole US health care system in the US, which (if it was possible) would result in healthy, low-risk people getting relatively cheap healthcare and those with pre-existing conditions getting priced out of the health-care market.

 

[scorecard]

3 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

Trump is playing 3D chess while his opponents are struggling at checkers. 

Naah, he's trying to divert away from healthcare because he wishes he'd never mentioned any plan which got him into deep shit with the health companies. 

[farcanell]

53 minutes ago, phkauf said:

Hmmm, a 47% increase in the DJIA for starters. This alone has benefited nearly everyone who owned stocks the past two years. You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. 

Mmmm..... own opinions vs own facts.... very interesting, and indeed you are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

my reading of this chart suggests that the turnaround started in 2008, under a very different President.... of course you could always argue that the facts have shaped my opinion, but it’s still just an opinion

 

https://www.macrotrends.net/1319/dow-jones-100-year-historical-chart

[bristolboy]

6 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Good idea, Focus on the Border Crisis, solve that first. If the Dems continue on their wacky path Trump for 2020 should be a walk in the park. 

Have you been away and just come back? I got some news for you.  In the 2018 mid-terms the Republicans made immigration their issue. The Democrats made health care the issue.

How did that turn out?

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, scorecard said:

Naah, he's trying to divert away from healthcare because he wishes he'd never mentioned any plan which got him into deep shit with the health companies. 

I think the GOP are regretting tagging the ACA as 'Obama Care'.

 

[bristolboy]

2 hours ago, phkauf said:

Hmmm, a 47% increase in the DJIA for starters. This alone has benefited nearly everyone who owned stocks the past two years. You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. 

As economists have repeatedlly pointed out, 84 percent of stocks are owned by the top 10 percent of the population. The middle class has largely divested itself of stocks.

And a big reason stocks rose is that taxes were slashed on corporations in the Trump tax bill so dividends soared. Another reason is that the wealthy have so much spare cash thanks to repeated tax cuts that interest rates are way down so their dollars go chasing after other places to park them.

[bristolboy]

Anyway, Trump has given the Democrats a huge boost for the 2020 elections. All they have to do is point out that if they vote him and the Republcians in, they are going to do their damnedest to slash the number of Americans covered by health care and that those with pre-existing conditions will be shut out of the health care market.

Edited April 2, 2019 by bristolboy

[Thainesss]

2 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Have you been away and just come back? I got some news for you.  In the 2018 mid-terms the Republicans made immigration their issue. The Democrats made health care the issue.

How did that turn out?

 

Ahaha yeah, the democrats have made Trump their issue and nothing else. 

 

How much longer do you think thats going to work out? 

[Thainesss]

1 minute ago, bristolboy said:

Anyway, Trump has given the Democrats a huge boost for the 2020 elections. All they have to do is point out that if they vote him and the Republcians in, they are going to do their damnedest to slash the number of Americans covered by health care.

 

Weird. I distinctly remember Trump winning the 2016 presidential election by shouting from the rooftops about repealing Obamacare. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

In a series of tweets on Monday night, Trump said Republicans are developing "a really great HealthCare Plan with far lower premiums (cost) & deductibles than Obamacare."

 

I believe, he made exactly the same promise leading up to the 2016 presidential election.

 

And from that day forward, all he and the other Republicans have done is work to scuttle the existing ACA coverage for ordinary Americans, with the latest move being the Justice Department shift to support a lawsuit aimed at completely abolishing the ACA.

 

Trump and the Republicans have had years, and they've never come close to any kind of viable health care plan that incorporates the things most Americans need and want:

--shrinking the portion of the U.S. population that's uninsured.

--providing broad access to reasonable health care coverage at affordable prices.

--require coverage, and ban cancellations, for people with pre-existing conditions.

 

Anyone who believes Trump and his Republican buddies are ever going to deliver on that kind of national health care coverage for ordinary Americans is seriously deluded. Trump doesn't give a toss whether ordinary Americans can afford health coverage or not, and he's consistently shown that by his actions.