Pattaya Versus DaNang and the winner is?

[sanemax]

6 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

You can buy a 600ml small bottles of water, 1.5L big bottles of water, 5L (although another member says they are 6L) extra big bottles of water, and 20L bottles of water for the house.

 

You can buy beer in the standard size 330ml bottle, or local beer in bigger bottles, I think they are around 600ml. 

Yes, you can buy the bigger bottles , but many shops just sell the smaller sizes and its an inconvenience loots of small bottles ,rather than one big one 

[sanemax]

5 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

Ok something else has anyone here actually made a date with a Vietnamese lady in Vietnam and how was that like?

I was only there for ten days and didnt go looking for Females , but it seems that the local ladies were not interested in foreigners  , not like Pattaya where the are hoards of bar girls and older retired bar girls looking for a bit of freelance work .

   The Vietnamese ladies all seemed to be in relationships with other locals , kids and settled down , kind of thing .

   There were some karaoke and massage places where you can go for sex , but the non sex working ladies didnt seem interested in going out on dates with foreigners 

[NanLaew]

22 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

Ehh so we can discuss anything here about Vietnam but u will get cranky if i’am asking others about their experiences dating a Vietnamese?

Why?

Who's cranky? Just why did it take you so long to get down to the nitty gritty?

 

Anyway, since when has any one person's dating experience ever been seen as some sort of universal in any country? Talk about a rough guide.

 

18 minutes ago, sanemax said:

I was only there for ten days and didnt go looking for Females , but it seems that the local ladies were not interested in foreigners  , not like Pattaya where the are hoards of bar girls and older retired bar girls looking for a bit of freelance work .

   The Vietnamese ladies all seemed to be in relationships with other locals , kids and settled down , kind of thing .

   There were some karaoke and massage places where you can go for sex , but the non sex working ladies didnt seem interested in going out on dates with foreigners 

This.

 

If someone has spent many years in Thailand and (still) cannot speak the lingo and (still) struggles with cultural nuance, then Vietnam isn't going to be a whole lot better.

 

Vietnam will still offer the same excitement that pretty much any new country will present to the noob. Just don't forget to keep in mind how long it took for the gild to fall of one's own, personal Thai Lilly when making that big Danang relocation decision.

[Destiny1990]

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

Who's cranky? Just why did it take you so long to get down to the nitty gritty?

 

Anyway, since when has any one person's dating experience ever been seen as some sort of universal in any country? Talk about a rough guide.

 

This.

 

If someone has spent many years in Thailand and (still) cannot speak the lingo and (still) struggles with cultural nuance, then Vietnam isn't going to be a whole lot better.

 

Vietnam will still offer the same excitement that pretty much any new country will present to the noob. Just don't forget to keep in mind how long it took for the gild to fall of one's own, personal Thai Lilly when making that big Danang relocation decision.

I don't think the 2 Countries/cities differ so much all together . Most is nearly similar or even better in Vietnam is what i have learned here.

The key element what makes it a very SIMPLE decision for relocation  is the BIG difference in Visa procedures extensions.

 

Edited May 10, 2019 by Destiny1990

[Destiny1990]

2 hours ago, sanemax said:

I was only there for ten days and didnt go looking for Females , but it seems that the local ladies were not interested in foreigners  , not like Pattaya where the are hoards of bar girls and older retired bar girls looking for a bit of freelance work .

   The Vietnamese ladies all seemed to be in relationships with other locals , kids and settled down , kind of thing .

   There were some karaoke and massage places where you can go for sex , but the non sex working ladies didnt seem interested in going out on dates with foreigners 

Maybe you had bad hair days in DaNang ?

Didn’t you wrote some posts before that you never have visited Pattaya? And now here you are describing us how things go down in Pattaya ?

Edited May 10, 2019 by Destiny1990

[sanemax]

11 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

Maybe you had bad hair days in DaNang ?

Didn’t you wrote some posts before that you never have visited Pattaya? And now here you are describing us how things go down Pattaya ?

Well , thats the situation in CM and I am quite sure that Pattaya is the same , just on a much larger scale or has Pattaya really changed to an upmarket resort town with no prostitution ?

  I did have quite a nice time wandering around Danang , and I did notice that the females were not too available , they generally all seemed to be married with kids by the time they are 20 and stay with their husband , you dont get hoards of promiscuous ex prostitutes wandering the streets looking for a short time .

  I dont recall seeing even one felang/Vietnamese couple together all the time that I was there .

  You can find prostitutes , but it wouldnt be easy to find a long term girlfriend , especially if you are an ex pattaya whoremonger who has lost the ability to talk to non bar girls

[Destiny1990]

58 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Well , thats the situation in CM and I am quite sure that Pattaya is the same , just on a much larger scale or has Pattaya really changed to an upmarket resort town with no prostitution ?

  I did have quite a nice time wandering around Danang , and I did notice that the females were not too available , they generally all seemed to be married with kids by the time they are 20 and stay with their husband , you dont get hoards of promiscuous ex prostitutes wandering the streets looking for a short time .

  I dont recall seeing even one felang/Vietnamese couple together all the time that I was there .

  You can find prostitutes , but it wouldnt be easy to find a long term girlfriend , especially if you are an ex pattaya whoremonger who has lost the ability to talk to non bar girls

I was in CM and luckily i didn’t encounter contrary how you say loads of prostitutes harassing me. And In Pattaya walking the pavements  besides some ladies will try to get my attention for a massage but there too in general most girls will just ignore me.

So i can expect the same in DaNang then.. 

Edited May 10, 2019 by Destiny1990

[sanemax]

7 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

I was in CM and luckily i didn’t encounter contrary how you say loads of prostitutes harassing me. And In Pattaya walking the pavements  besides some ladies will try to get my attention for a massage but their too in general most girls will just ignore me.

So i can expect the same in DaNang then.. 

  Those girls dont seem to exist in Danang , its all quite discreet and behind closed doors and you have to walk in there and see whats on offer , I didnt go into any of those places , but they looked like they had other things on offer .

   No girls will come and talk to you and you wont get offered anything , in Thailand its quite easy to find a GF , although one way or another it will probably cost you .

  The Vietnamese dont seem interested in being friends  with felangs , they all seem to have their jobs , husbands and kids and have no interest being friendly to random passers by  , pretty much like back in the West .

   Get on a flight and go and see for yourself , get a 10 day return flight and see how you like it 

[Destiny1990]

20 minutes ago, sanemax said:

  Those girls dont seem to exist in Danang , its all quite discreet and behind closed doors and you have to walk in there and see whats on offer , I didnt go into any of those places , but they looked like they had other things on offer .

   No girls will come and talk to you and you wont get offered anything , in Thailand its quite easy to find a GF , although one way or another it will probably cost you .

  The Vietnamese dont seem interested in being friends  with felangs , they all seem to have their jobs , husbands and kids and have no interest being friendly to random passers by  , pretty much like back in the West .

   Get on a flight and go and see for yourself , get a 10 day return flight and see how you like it 

Ohh so according to your observations there are no single ladies existing in Vietnam. All of them u saw passing by have jobs husbands and or kids..

stop trolling! 

[sanemax]

7 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

Ohh so according to your observations there are no single ladies existing in Vietnam. All of them u saw passing by have jobs husbands and or kids..

stop trolling! 

When I said "all" , I didnt literally mean everything single one , I meant generally .

As I said in my previous post "they generally" , you need to try to understand whole paragraphs , rather than reading just one word .

   Of course I do not know the relationship status of EVERY female in Danang!!!!!!

[Destiny1990]

31 minutes ago, sanemax said:

When I said "all" , I didnt literally mean everything single one , I meant generally .

As I said in my previous post "they generally" , you need to try to understand whole paragraphs , rather than reading just one word .

   Of course I do not know the relationship status of EVERY female in Danang!!!!!!

Finally something you don’t know.

[robint]

How is Snookie?  I heard it was taken over by russian mafia and some very unsavory trade like arms, flesh children?  Any up date. I was there 20 years ago, everyone spaced out on dope

[DrTuner]

11 hours ago, sanemax said:

The Vietnamese dont seem interested in being friends  with felangs

Males too? While I don't much care about Thai men as friends given their limited non-self interests, not having the chance would be somewhat negative, especially if living as a long term expat. Or is it commie spillover, the ideology produced people that are rude everywhere it was applied.

[robint]

4 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Males too? While I don't much care about Thai men as friends given their limited non-self interests, not having the chance would be somewhat negative, especially if living as a long term expat. Or is it commie spillover, the ideology produced people that are rude everywhere it was applied.

Its important to understand how boys are brought up.  eg they are treated like little gods, never subject to much discipline or fatherly influence so they grow up and behave like real selfish bstards.  If a thai man is giving you a thai smile beware, he may have a knife behind his back

I wont dwell on this, its pointless and I will be accused of racialism

[sanemax]

11 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Males too? While I don't much care about Thai men as friends given their limited non-self interests, not having the chance would be somewhat negative, especially if living as a long term expat. Or is it commie spillover, the ideology produced people that are rude everywhere it was applied.

I wouldnt say that they were unfriendly , just that they all got their own lives and have no need to make new friends .

  You can get used to living in Thailand , where people are quite friendly , but that is usually because they want something .

  All my Thai freinds are acquaintances because they want something , whether they be bar/restaurant/hotel, owners or whatever or even the "friends" that I say hello too everyday kind of expect me to get the beers in in the evening .

   Maybe its just me , but I dont have any genuine Thai "friends" , they all gain or hope to gain by being acquainted with me .

  The Vietnamese system takes care of its people , so, there is no need for them to be come acquainted with me for personal gain and so appear to be unfriendly 

[Rimmer]

A troll baiting post has been removed

[KittenKong]

7 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Maybe its just me , but I dont have any genuine Thai "friends" , they all gain or hope to gain by being acquainted with me.

It's not just you.

 

Everyone here knows that I never give anything to anyone and so no one here talks to me. Suits me fine.

[sanemax]

15 hours ago, sanemax said:

 

   The Vietnamese ladies all seemed to be in relationships with other locals , kids and settled down , kind of thing .

 

Thought about that and have an idea as to why that is .

Vietnamese Children born out of wedlock are not given the benefits of the Socialist system , they are sort of outcasts .

   Therefore females tend to get married , reproduce and stay in a local commune with their Husband and live happily ever after .

  Unlike Thailand , where there are many unmarried females , usually with kids , looking for a felang to take care of them .

[KhunHeineken]

2 hours ago, sanemax said:

Thought about that and have an idea as to why that is .

Vietnamese Children born out of wedlock are not given the benefits of the Socialist system , they are sort of outcasts .

   Therefore females tend to get married , reproduce and stay in a local commune with their Husband and live happily ever after .

  Unlike Thailand , where there are many unmarried females , usually with kids , looking for a felang to take care of them .

That has changed. 

 

These children, and adults, who did not have a birth certificate, can now get a full ID Card, and access everything that can be done with having an Vietnam ID Card.

 

The Vietnamese are very conservative, and like western countries in the past, divorce was seen as something to be ashamed of, but divorce is on the rise there, and becoming more socially acceptable.   

 

 

Edited May 11, 2019 by KhunHeineken

[KhunHeineken]

2 hours ago, DrTuner said:

Males too? While I don't much care about Thai men as friends given their limited non-self interests, not having the chance would be somewhat negative, especially if living as a long term expat. Or is it commie spillover, the ideology produced people that are rude everywhere it was applied.

The Vietnamese are friendly, including the guys. 

 

It's nothing to be walking past a house where there is a party that has spilt out onto the footpath, and to be invited in. 

 

They quickly get the best English speaker to interpret, usually a young adult, or teenager, and before you know it, a Vietnamese women has bought out one of those tiny kids chairs for you to sit on, and some food for you. 

 

That's followed by one of the guys putting a beer in front of you. 

 

These people are not wealthy, but freely give to a foreign stranger, and ask for nothing in return. 

 

If I'm in the mood, I rush off to get a box of local tinned beer, which is around 350 baht equivalent, and go back and join the party.

 

I have meet many Vietnamese friends this way, despite a language barrier.    

 

 

[BritManToo]

52 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

The Vietnamese are very conservative, and like western countries in the past, divorce was seen as something to be ashamed of, but divorce is on the rise there, and becoming more socially acceptable.

Not to mention lots of them are Catholics.

[BritManToo]

3 hours ago, KittenKong said:

It's not just you.

 

Everyone here knows that I never give anything to anyone and so no one here talks to me. Suits me fine.

I have one Thai cycling friend, he's a retired English teacher who can't speak a word of English.

But I do have Thai family, and I've found Thai people tend to hang with their family in preference to unrelated 'friends'.

[scubascuba3]

DaNang is underwhelming at best. Whole beach front should be bulldozed and start over with a plan. What is left standing, looks like its left over from the 60's. Nha Trang on the other hand has a great beach front, park area and is kept up nicely. No shortage of alcohol in Nha Trang, it is the Russian hangout.

Good beach just attract tourists and i don't see many expats on beaches in Pattaya or Jomtien so i don't understand the obsession with nice beaches. If Da Nang beach is underwelming that could be a good thing. I was there 10 years ago, barely remember it

[scubascuba3]

I have jut stated as to why I wouldnt want to live in Danang .
And also for pedestrian  (Those who prefer to walk places , rather than to drive) , IMO Thailand is alot safer then Danang  .
  I did recently start a thread about relocating to Vietnam and I seem to have found myself in this thread , I have never been to Pattaya and have no intention of ever going there .
   If it was a straight choice between Pattaya and Danang, I would stay in Chiang Mai .
(BTW , could you start writing your words in full and stop using abbreviations , like "U" & "ur"?)

I avoided Pattaya for 15 years, I'm glad i went there and stayed ever since. Being a bar fly isn't compulsory

[LongTimeLurker]

On 4/26/2019 at 10:02 PM, KittenKong said:

I dont think that I would like the general lack of public transport

They have Grab and a good cheap taxi service in Da Nang, unlike in Pattaya.

[LongTimeLurker]

On 4/26/2019 at 10:19 PM, KittenKong said:

Rain is often a downside of hill stations, I agree. The upside is the lovely freshness when the rain stops and the sun comes out. A sort of perpetual Spring.

 

Yes, I dont think it has much in the way of condos either but for a short stay that would not be a problem for me. But if ever Vietnam sorts itself out and offers proper long-term retirement visas then I could see a lot of demand for nice condos in places like Dalat.

And it doesn't rain that much in Pattaya???

[LongTimeLurker]

On 4/26/2019 at 10:19 PM, KittenKong said:

But if ever Vietnam sorts itself out and offers proper long-term retirement visas then I could see a lot of demand for nice condos in places like Dalat.

I don't think the VN authorities want the "quality" retirees that eek out a sparse living in Pattaya.

 

But it is possible to get a 5 year visa for VN if you marry.

[LongTimeLurker]

On 4/28/2019 at 11:28 AM, madmen said:

You most be joking. Taxis there are a big scam! you only need to google for 5 seconds for endless examples..I think many expats are so jaded living in LOS that the rose colored glasses are on when looking at other countries. But lets keep it real

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g293921-i8432-k9671730-Taxi_Scam_in_Vietnam-Vietnam.html

Taxis are a breeze in VN.

[LongTimeLurker]

On 4/28/2019 at 1:39 PM, spidermike007 said:

Wow. Impressive and daunting stats. That is communism for you. Of all the visits I have made to Vietnam, in general I find alot of the people to be somewhere between indifferent, cold, wet fish, or hostile. Rarely warm or fun to be around. Rarely light hearted like alot of Thais. Was that an ill conceived perception? Was it just me? I am a friendly guy. But, did not get alot of that in return. Three trips to the north and south left me terribly unimpressed with the people, in general.

 

But a gorgeous land, lovely sea, great food, better beer, and fine women for sure. 

I've always found that the VN speak much better English than the Thais (I speak Thai but not VN) and are much friendlier to foreigners than Thais.

 

In all the years I have been in both countries I have more VN friends than Thai.

[LongTimeLurker]

On 4/28/2019 at 4:00 PM, AAArdvark said:

Something for the single guys going to Vietnam to consider " It is actually a law in VN that foreigner and Vietnamese woman can't stay in the same room without marriage certification"

Didn't bother any hotel my gf and me stayed in over the years, except 1 which wouldn't let her stay after 10pm, after being there from noon!

 

And that was 16 years ago.

Edited May 12, 2019 by LongTimeLurker