Britain's Conservatives in fourth place in EU election poll, Farage leads

[elliss]

6 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

He has given the dispossessed a feeling of temporary superiority whilst him and his rich chums feather their very nice nests. It's the foreigners innit.....

 

Farage is a spin doctor ,   nothing more , full of it , sh..t ..

 

 

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52 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Is it lower than your economists forecast we would see after the armageddon of a Leave referendum result?  You had better inform this lot about their sad lie:

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/overseas-investment-into-the-uk-at-highest-ever-level

4th Dec 2018: The UK remains a top destination for investment, with new figures showing that inward stock is at the highest level since records began.

Just imagine how much more it will increase after the actual Brexit.

 

A tariff war could be interesting. How do you think the EU could adjust their tariffs in response to the UK? No need to display your literacy in gobbledygook - simple English will be fine for the simply economically illiterate.

 

it seems even all these foreign investors know brexit will never happen

[Loiner]

7 minutes ago, elliss said:

 

Farage is a spin doctor ,   nothing more , full of it , sh..t ..

 

 

No matter what you think he's full of, he's still getting the support and votes of millions. More and more each week in fact.

Who's your man or woman and what's he or she full of? 

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, tomacht8 said:

Everything Perfect or what?

Why leave the EU with these shiny data?

Joking aside.

 

I do Not have so much time to destroy ur 

euphoria in detail. 

Just a few thoughts:

1. Source: economistforfreetrade. Aha.

2. Growth rate of UK 2018 at 1.4% = in the lower third of the EU.

3. Data collection point for more tax revenue: January only.

4. Nominal wage growth yes, but what about the consumer price inflation rate?

5. Employment at new heights, good. But how much of it are permanent fixed jobs and part time jobs.

6. That we all slide into a threatening recession is obvious. Worldwide trade wars are known to be in full swing.

The fact that the UK with a Brexit and all the upcoming trade barriers can decouple from it, is a sweet dream.

I can't believe that Malta produces so many sausages! 

 

But it's all relative!

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44 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

555

accounted for in British pounds!!!!!

Calculate that currency-adjusted,

simple for the economically illiterate in US Dollar, Euro and Yen.

 

the company i worked for after leaving school for 16 years and two later spells were bought by a german company recently,i was talking with a manager mate a few weeks ago and asked him if he knew what attracted them to buying the company,he said the low pound was one of the MAJOR factors,i bet there are hundreds of other examples around the country,yet we get brexieers moaning about the french owning the water the spanish the bus companies etc,when will brexiteers learn the UK will get nowhere fast with a weak/worthless currency,it goes way beyond an expats beer and pussy money.

[nontabury]

2 hours ago, StreetCowboy said:

It seems clear to me that the main objective has been achieved - to sow political discord and weaken civic institutions.  The next step, economic decline, seems inevitable, before we look at the possibility of civil unrest. Someone must be chortling with satisfaction at a job well done, but whoever he is, he’s not my friend and he’s probably not yours.

 

It’s already been mentioned, that should the political elite fail/refuse to implement the people’s Democratic vote,that civil unrest is inevitable.

 

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10 minutes ago, nauseus said:

I can't believe that Malta produces so many sausages! 

 

But it's all relative!

i thought the GB economy was doing well and the EU zone ready to "implode" well well well who would of thought.

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6 minutes ago, nontabury said:

 

It’s already been mentioned, that should the political elite fail/refuse to implement the people’s Democratic vote,that civil unrest is inevitable.

 

tommy and teddy boy getting their doc martens,braces and union jack t-shirts on and putting a few shop windows out isnt classed as civil unrest.

[nauseus]

3 minutes ago, bomber said:

i thought the GB economy was doing well and the EU zone ready to "implode" well well well who would of thought.

But you don't mention that the UK is still above the three important EU economies of Germany, France and Italy, of course! Well well well, who'd have thought?

[Chelseafan]

2 hours ago, aright said:

LIAM HALLIGAN is an economist, writer and broadcaster – and also has extensive business experience. He is best known for his weekly “Economics Agenda” column in The Sunday Telegraph, which he has written since 2003. The column enjoys a large international following and has been recognized with a highly-coveted British Press Award. 

 

Given your view or Liam Halligans view I have made my choice

 

The public finances are on the mend, recording a healthy surplus in January on booming tax receipts. Employment is at record levels, with real wage growth at a two-year high. Despite a global slowdown, Britain expanded 1.4 per cent last year, recording just 4 per cent unemployment. Yet Germany and France are on the brink of recession, the Italian economy is contracting and eurozone joblessness is twice as high.

https://www.economistsforfreetrade.com/Media/the-telegraph-britains-economy-is-set-to-boom-and-become-the-largest-in-europe-because-of-brexit/

Can't really say any of that has to do with Brexit though and it depends on how you view public finances. We still owe £1.8trillion and that figure is growing (if the Government was a business it would be bankrupt!). Unemployment has been in decline for the past 7 years thanks in part to zero-hours contracts and a review of the benefits system which has forced (in some cases) disabled people back to work.

 

Ultimately we all have an opinion but no-one REALLY knows what effect a hard Brexit will have on the economy, we can only surmise with current data and It would be interesting to go back on Mr. Halligans articles and see how many times he has been wrong since 2003

 

 

 

 

 

[Chelseafan]

2 hours ago, bomber said:

If its not broken dont try to fix it...man city and liverpool didnt decide to start from scratch in january.

It IS broken that's the problem....and we're just sheeping ourselves into more of the same. Time for someone to be bold

[Chelseafan]

2 hours ago, aright said:

You are most probably right...he's a real dolt .

Liam Halligan has written his weekly Economic Agenda column in The Sunday Telegraph since 2003 – which enjoys a wide international readership and has been recognised with a British Press Award. He is Editor-at-Large and a shareholder of bne-Intellinews and has extensive business experience. Halligan took degrees in economics from the Universities of Warwick and Oxford and has held economic research posts at the International Monetary Fund, the Social Market Foundation and the London School of Economics. He has reported from Moscow for The Economist, been Political Correspondent for The Financial Times and for eight years was Economics Correspondent at Channel Four News – where he won the Wincott Business Broadcasting Award an unprecedented four times. 

So he has never had a job in business nor run a company. Not saying the blokes stupid but he could make 100 predictions of what's going to happen and get 70 of them right but the ones that REALLY matter are the other 30.

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34 minutes ago, nauseus said:

But you don't mention that the UK is still above the three important EU economies of Germany, France and Italy, of course! Well well well, who'd have thought?

your german paranoia rears its head yet again,german and french standards of living and wealth are still way above your average Brits,any global downturn will always effect the mass producing nations first,the rest follow 3-6 months later,to even think the UK is going to challenge Germany's position with or without brexit is just insane,as the table showed the EU is far from ready to implode

[bomber]

13 minutes ago, Chelseafan said:

It IS broken that's the problem....and we're just sheeping ourselves into more of the same. Time for someone to be bold

when mays deal is send packing again we will see the process to start revoking article 50 begin

[Chelseafan]

8 minutes ago, bomber said:

when mays deal is send packing again we will see the process to start revoking article 50 begin

Most likely and what a wasted opportunity it will be.

 

[bomber]

1 minute ago, Chelseafan said:

Most likely and what a wasted opportunity it will be.

 

more like a waste of £100s of millions of govt and taxpayers money,add on £300-1000 per adult due to inflation/weaker pound,that table posted earlier would of seen the UK very close to the top instead of the bottom,never mind at least it wont be a no deal crash out calamity.

[AlexRich]

2 hours ago, aright said:

You are most probably right...he's a real dolt .

Liam Halligan has written his weekly Economic Agenda column in The Sunday Telegraph since 2003 – which enjoys a wide international readership and has been recognised with a British Press Award. He is Editor-at-Large and a shareholder of bne-Intellinews and has extensive business experience. Halligan took degrees in economics from the Universities of Warwick and Oxford and has held economic research posts at the International Monetary Fund, the Social Market Foundation and the London School of Economics. He has reported from Moscow for The Economist, been Political Correspondent for The Financial Times and for eight years was Economics Correspondent at Channel Four News – where he won the Wincott Business Broadcasting Award an unprecedented four times. 

He’s a talking head .... he’s never ran a business in his life. Line the idiot up against the numerous economists and commentators who don’t think Brexit was a great idea for the economy and business ... Warren Buffet being one just recently. Now he does know something about business.

[AlexRich]

19 minutes ago, bomber said:

when mays deal is send packing again we will see the process to start revoking article 50 begin

I think that is what the end game will be.

[aright]

41 minutes ago, Chelseafan said:

Can't really say any of that has to do with Brexit though and it depends on how you view public finances. We still owe £1.8trillion and that figure is growing (if the Government was a business it would be bankrupt!). Unemployment has been in decline for the past 7 years thanks in part to zero-hours contracts and a review of the benefits system which has forced (in some cases) disabled people back to work.

 

Ultimately we all have an opinion but no-one REALLY knows what effect a hard Brexit will have on the economy, we can only surmise with current data and It would be interesting to go back on Mr. Halligans articles and see how many times he has been wrong since 2003

 

I think the article was written in mitigation of Remainers claims that after Brexit the UK would be a disaster area , high unemployment, economic collapse etc etc..I'm sure you have heard all the arguments. I have been reading his columns for a long time and although not a disciple I have never found him to be radically wrong about anything. I put my experience of his views along side his book "Clean Brexit-Why leaving the EU still makes sense" and his cv and as a result show him a lot of respect. I would never dismiss the views of a Telegraph journalist just because he works for the Telegraph as some do.

https://liamjhalligan.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/liamcv-2014.pdf

 

If the requirement for opinion is they should have had a job and experience in business I'm sure that would most probably exclude 75% of MP's ….maybe not such a bad thing.

 

[Chelseafan]

1 hour ago, AlexRich said:

I think that is what the end game will be.

And the start game.

[Chelseafan]

1 hour ago, bomber said:

more like a waste of £100s of millions of govt and taxpayers money,add on £300-1000 per adult due to inflation/weaker pound,that table posted earlier would of seen the UK very close to the top instead of the bottom,never mind at least it wont be a no deal crash out calamity.

So you say.

[Chelseafan]

1 hour ago, AlexRich said:

He’s a talking head .... he’s never ran a business in his life. Line the idiot up against the numerous economists and commentators who don’t think Brexit was a great idea for the economy and business ... Warren Buffet being one just recently. Now he does know something about business.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/15/warren-buffetts-failures-15-investing-mistakes-he-regrets.html

 

He doesn't get it right all the time either.

[bomber]

17 minutes ago, Chelseafan said:

So you say.

stone wall facts,not even debatable.

[Chelseafan]

17 minutes ago, bomber said:

stone wall facts,not even debatable.

Okay dokey

[AlexRich]

2 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

And the start game.

None of this will end well ... 

[simple1]

10 hours ago, nauseus said:

Dougan again. The Jean Monnet Chair and EU funded. No bias there then.

Anyone not biased one way or the other? How about factually refuting the main points of the presentation...

[nauseus]

7 hours ago, bomber said:

your german paranoia rears its head yet again,german and french standards of living and wealth are still way above your average Brits,any global downturn will always effect the mass producing nations first,the rest follow 3-6 months later,to even think the UK is going to challenge Germany's position with or without brexit is just insane,as the table showed the EU is far from ready to implode

Wrong again. No paranoia and I didn't say that the UK is going to challenge Germany's position. All you do is make stuff up and miss even more out. And that table does not indicate any implosion factor.  

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

Anyone not biased one way or the other? How about factually refuting the main points of the presentation...

Give me a break. He's an EU drone.

[vogie]

Remain campaigners have tried blocking the roads in and around the latest Nigel Farage Brexit Party Rally in Merthyr Tydfil to prevent free speech. Remainers must understand that you cannot quell democracy that easy, but blocking roads, blocking Brexit and blocking democracy is just another day at the office for remainers.

[malagateddy]

Remain campaigners have tried blocking the roads in and around the latest Nigel Farage Brexit Party Rally in Merthyr Tydfil to prevent free speech. Remainers must understand that you cannot quell democracy that easy, but blocking roads, blocking Brexit and blocking democracy is just another day at the office for remainers.

Their day is coming quite soon..they are but lemmings who cannot think for themselves..probably left wing upper class twits/guardian readers

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