UK's Labour questions whether successor to PM May would honour Brexit deal

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

And how exactly would the UK high court be able to unilaterally change a bilateral agreement in international law? It’s remarkable how Brexiteers complain about being called uneducated fools while they don’t miss an opportunity to make a fool of themselves by commenting on issues they don’t have a clue about. What’s your stance on how to do a heart transplantation? 

 

Sorry to say that most Brexiteers are ignorant of the law, business, economics and WTO and it's rules and processes. So they simple say what Farage, Boris, R-Mogg and the social media sites that support them say.

 

Regardless of reality. It's wishful thinking. They've found a scapegoat for all the problems, the EU and believe leaving it will solve all the problems - just like that!

[Baerboxer]

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

You seem to be the expert on garbage disposal.

 

So go on genius, tell us what the great plan will be if clowns like Farage and Boris get their way.

 

Explain it in detail. Feel free to regurgitate the garbage you've swallowed.

[Baerboxer]

4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

So give us a shining example of an honest MP who can be PM.

 

At least you don't disagree that none of the Brexiteers are fit to be PM.

[nauseus]

1 minute ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Sorry to say that most Brexiteers are ignorant of the law, business, economics and WTO and it's rules and processes. So they simple say what Farage, Boris, R-Mogg and the social media sites that support them say.

 

Regardless of reality. It's wishful thinking. They've found a scapegoat for all the problems, the EU and believe leaving it will solve all the problems - just like that!

All wrong. Get real. ???? ies!  

[nauseus]

1 minute ago, Baerboxer said:

 

At least you don't disagree that none of the Brexiteers are fit to be PM.

I didn't say that. You are having trouble reading today.

[malagateddy]

Well, let's assume our QC is Boris Johnson then... 

Martin Howe being mine..game.set.match.[emoji2][emoji2][emoji2][emoji2][emoji2]

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[evadgib]

45 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

A Brexiteer - what like Boris, Gove, R-Mogg - all proven liars, self enriching hiso extreme right wingers?

 

Yeah, they'll sort things out in a way that benefits everybody! 

 

You keep believing that.

You should first address the problems within your own tent:

 

Edited May 13, 2019 by evadgib

[puipuitom]

8 hours ago, allane said:

After Theresa May gets her deal through Parliament and resigns, she will likely be replaced by someone from the "Hard Brexit" wing of the party  Let's presume that it is  a Boris Jonson.  He can go to Brussels, raise his voice, and thump his fist on the table if he wants to. If that is what he does, he will come home with less, not more than what a Theresa May would have achieved.

AFTER Brexit ? Who days, they will grant him a Schengen visum ?

Second: the EU buildings are not for public access like the Underground, so..as they are already making shields: " forbidden for Dogs and Brits not".

Let Boris the Liar stay in the UK. See in Google: leid already just for the story when he was stationed at the EU as reporter Boris Johnson reporter EU lying or  https://www.indy100.com/article/a-journalist-has-shared-a-story-about-boris-johnson-that-completely-undermines-his-authority-on-the-eu--bkoHJPBuVZ  

[puipuitom]

8 hours ago, blazes said:

Yoy

 

One would indeed have to believe in "fairy tales" to imagine that there will be a "second referendum"....

As all Brexiteers would even ask the Iranisan and Putin to invade England ( N Ireland will be split in a green and a red part and Scotland will be EU anyhow,.

[puipuitom]

7 hours ago, rodentwarrior said:

Theresa May's deal isn't a clean break with the EU.  This is the problem.  Brexiteers want a return to an Independent Great Britain, a so-called Hard Brexit.  Rightly or wrongly, the British Taxpayer is very tired of sending money to Europe, while the UK struggles with funding its own services.  The EU has bailed out corrupt Countries like Greece, without securing proper change, and ignoring the lies Greece told in order to join the club.  The EU is a socialist cabal, using ideology as its guide.  Economics has been quietly put aside.

 

I think it's likely irrelevant, as the EU elections later this month will give a useful indication of how a General Election would play out.

 

The referendum was clear enough.  The majority of voters chose to leave the EU.  Parliament has decided to usurp this clear decision, and muddy the water with noise and anti democratic nonsense.

"Vote to leave" yes, an overweging landslide mayority of 51,88 %, with only a mare 48,11 idiots to vote for "remain". 

But where is mentioned: at whatever consequences ? ? Why you Brexiteers are so panicking for a second referendum, if the Brits still want or May's agreement of WTO rules or.. stil.. remain? 

Too afraid to loose with a .. 34 % for Brexit Now ?

[puipuitom]

2 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

And how exactly would the UK high court be able to unilaterally change a bilateral agreement in international law? It’s remarkable how Brexiteers complain about being called uneducated fools while they don’t miss an opportunity to make a fool of themselves by commenting on issues they don’t have a clue about. What’s your stance on how to do a heart transplantation? 

Quite some Brits think they still can negociate ( read: command) others from their cannon boats. They only for get already 2 times in the last century, they had to be saved by the Americans.

Even any other language as English they do not master.

[puipuitom]

2 hours ago, ThaiBunny said:

 "living off its credit card" when it goes into debt

"living off its - Great Germania backed - credit card"

[welovesundaysatspace]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

Well no body is accepting that 'deal' either. She has to go now, without her Merkel/May Surrender Treaty being accepted. The premiership has got to be given to a Brexiteer PM to sort out her EU Remainer mess, preferably with No Deal unless it has some major advantages for the UK. 

I think it’s great that Brexiteers finally seem to accept that a vote doesn’t have to be the final say because people may change their mind in the light of new information and want to decide differently. I think you now understand your Remainer-friends. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

As usual Farage deflects, rudely interrupts, tries to bully and bluster and says nothing meaningful.

To be fair, it’s a smart move to communicate on the Brexiteers’ intellectual level. That’s how you make uneducated fools to pay into your wallet. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

You must remember that Brexiteers think Britannia still rules the waves!

Living in cloud cuckoo land definitely is at the heart of the problem. Some people might argue a no-deal Brexit would be a good thing so those fools see and learn. No, they will always say “pink unicorns exist, it’s just your fault that you didn’t find me one.”

 

[puipuitom]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

He's already lined his own pockets and will piss-off again when it suits him.

He did not miss one single meeting in Brussels to learn how to get as much as possible pension from the EU... of course.. without the UK pay a cent in contribution.

Charles de Gaulle already warned us, but.. we did not want to listen.

 

" 

Farage is due to return to his full MEP salary (€8,484 pre-tax per month) in October, having being docked half of it for 10 months for alleged misspending of EU funds.

As one of the UK’s longest serving MEPs, elected in 1999, Nigel Farage would be entitled to a maximum pre-tax golden parachute of €169,680 (£149,810), if he is unable to find a job after Brexit.

However the European parliament expects MEPs to forego these payment once they have a new job. The former Ukip leader has earned up to £700,000 for his TV and radio work over the last four years - far more than his MEP salary -  and hopes to continue his LBC radio show after Brexit.

" 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/24/long-serving-meps-eligible-transition-payments-european-parliament-uk  A REAL BRITISH STAR...

Edited May 13, 2019 by puipuitom

[welovesundaysatspace]

7 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Quite some Brits think they still can negociate ( read: command) others from their cannon boats.

They are just parroting what their preferred Twitter accounts of internet memes tell them, despite not having a clue or being qualified. Like those fools who claim global warming is a hoax or you don’t have to vaccinate your kids. “Follow me to the light!” 

 

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, puipuitom said:

Quite some Brits think they still can negociate ( read: command) others from their cannon boats. They only for get already 2 times in the last century, they had to be saved by the Americans.

Even any other language as English they do not master.

Even any other language as English they do not master. 

 

right

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, puipuitom said:

As all Brexiteers would even ask the Iranisan and Putin to invade England ( N Ireland will be split in a green and a red part and Scotland will be EU anyhow,.

an' you comin' from the 'ouse of Orange an' all! 

 

[Loiner]

1 hour ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

I think it’s great that Brexiteers finally seem to accept that a vote doesn’t have to be the final say because people may change their mind in the light of new information and want to decide differently. I think you now understand your Remainer-friends.

Still spaced out again I see. There is no mind changing among the Leavers, unlike the remnants in your Monday hangovers. It's still a Leave-Leave situation. 

[welovesundaysatspace]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

Still spaced out again I see. There is no mind changing among the Leavers, unlike the remnants in your Monday hangovers. It's still a Leave-Leave situation. 

Oh, I thought I heard Brexiteers asking the democratic decision of the English people that Theresa May shall be PM until 2022 (?) to be overturned. ???? 

[Loiner]

2 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Oh, I thought I heard Brexiteers asking the democratic decision of the English people that Theresa May shall be PM until 2022 (?) to be overturned. ???? 

Sorry, you've got it all wrong again in your spaced out state. Had you been coherent after whatever you do on Sundays, you should have thought that when Theresa is ousted by her own party, a true Brexiteer will be required to save the UK from her Merkel/May surrender document.

Nothing to do with parliament Fixed Terms, but everything to do with achieving a true Brexit. Neither Theresa or the Labour party have been able to overturn the democratic decision of the UK, which is still to Leave. 
Why not try again tomorrow after a good night's sleep?

[welovesundaysatspace]

19 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Sorry, you've got it all wrong again in your spaced out state. Had you been coherent after whatever you do on Sundays, you should have thought that when Theresa is ousted by her own party, a true Brexiteer will be required to save the UK from her Merkel/May surrender document.

Nothing to do with parliament Fixed Terms, but everything to do with achieving a true Brexit. Neither Theresa or the Labour party have been able to overturn the democratic decision of the UK, which is still to Leave. 
Why not try again tomorrow after a good night's sleep?

Yah, I know you are hypocrites. At least you’re admitting it now. That’s an improvement! ???? 

[Nigel Garvie]

9 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Sorry to say that most Brexiteers are ignorant of the law, business, economics and WTO and it's rules and processes. So they simple say what Farage, Boris, R-Mogg and the social media sites that support them say.

 

Regardless of reality. It's wishful thinking. They've found a scapegoat for all the problems, the EU and believe leaving it will solve all the problems - just like that!

Barry Gardiner told Sky News: "We don't know at this stage even if we could negotiate a deal, what we don't know is whether the successor to Theresa May would actually deliver on it and that's one of the big sticking points that we have."

 

I have just had the surreal experience of reading through 4 pages of the usual (Reality denial) leave and (utterly frustrated) remain stuff, without anyone actually addressing the topic - which was could the Tories be trusted to uphold a deal with Labour BTW. My answer is, would you trust the Tories, let alone Farage not to sell off our NHS if it benefited them personally? 

 

The post I quote though was good. Who are Brexiteers going to blame for their troubles in the increasingly unlikely event that we do leave the EU. Immigrants (Still),  scroungers, foreigners in general, the judges, the MPs, the WTO, Muslims, Russians (Difficult when you are Putin's best storm troopers). One thing is for sure, millions of Brits have been so comprehensively brainwashed by the Tory Tabloids that they will never, never blame the rich, this brainwashing is the entire raison d'être for these papers, and their success has been staggering. 

This is why you are being encouraged to cut your own throats and leave the the EU, it is for the benefit of the rich and spivs like Farage. If you really think they are doing this for YOUR benefit, you are living in a total fantasy land.

 

 

 

[nauseus]

12 hours ago, evadgib said:

an' you comin' from the 'ouse of Orange an' all! 

 

You should get your meter serviced. There's smoke coming out of the back!

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Barry Gardiner told Sky News: "We don't know at this stage even if we could negotiate a deal, what we don't know is whether the successor to Theresa May would actually deliver on it and that's one of the big sticking points that we have."

 

I have just had the surreal experience of reading through 4 pages of the usual (Reality denial) leave and (utterly frustrated) remain stuff, without anyone actually addressing the topic - which was could the Tories be trusted to uphold a deal with Labour BTW. My answer is, would you trust the Tories, let alone Farage not to sell off our NHS if it benefited them personally? 

 

The post I quote though was good. Who are Brexiteers going to blame for their troubles in the increasingly unlikely event that we do leave the EU. Immigrants (Still),  scroungers, foreigners in general, the judges, the MPs, the WTO, Muslims, Russians (Difficult when you are Putin's best storm troopers). One thing is for sure, millions of Brits have been so comprehensively brainwashed by the Tory Tabloids that they will never, never blame the rich, this brainwashing is the entire raison d'être for these papers, and their success has been staggering. 

This is why you are being encouraged to cut your own throats and leave the the EU, it is for the benefit of the rich and spivs like Farage. If you really think they are doing this for YOUR benefit, you are living in a total fantasy land.

 

 

 

Now the Tory press is the reason we voted leave? Keep trying.

[Loiner]

11 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Barry Gardiner told Sky News: "We don't know at this stage even if we could negotiate a deal, what we don't know is whether the successor to Theresa May would actually deliver on it and that's one of the big sticking points that we have."

 

I have just had the surreal experience of reading through 4 pages of the usual (Reality denial) leave and (utterly frustrated) remain stuff, without anyone actually addressing the topic - which was could the Tories be trusted to uphold a deal with Labour BTW. My answer is, would you trust the Tories, let alone Farage not to sell off our NHS if it benefited them personally? 

 

The post I quote though was good. Who are Brexiteers going to blame for their troubles in the increasingly unlikely event that we do leave the EU. Immigrants (Still),  scroungers, foreigners in general, the judges, the MPs, the WTO, Muslims, Russians (Difficult when you are Putin's best storm troopers). One thing is for sure, millions of Brits have been so comprehensively brainwashed by the Tory Tabloids that they will never, never blame the rich, this brainwashing is the entire raison d'être for these papers, and their success has been staggering. 

This is why you are being encouraged to cut your own throats and leave the the EU, it is for the benefit of the rich and spivs like Farage. If you really think they are doing this for YOUR benefit, you are living in a total fantasy land.

 

 

 

Any deal made with Liebour should be voided as soon as possible. If it includes any reference to Customs Unions or 2nd Referendums it should not be agreed in the first place. How the most untrustworthy bunch of self servers around could question anyone honouring a deal with them is more than just a it rich.

After the EU and your list above, blame for the current trouble must also be apportioned to: Mostly Remain supporters for getting us into the current protracted pre-Brexit mess;  Labour politicians for the Blair years and still being there usurping democracy; the luvvies and chattering classes for mas wailing Remain protests with their faux liberal & social trendiness; Southerners for being majority Remain, with their property price fixations and loads-a-money lives while the rest of the country disintegrated over the past 50 years; Guardianistas and MSM the lefty press for their constant propaganda to this 2nd tier of blame, plus manipulation pandering and fawning to the young & stupid voters; lastly and leastly not forgetting the Scots for their SNP's disruptive and self serving political games in the HOC which disproportionately contributes to the whole sorry mess.

[Loiner]

14 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Yah, I know you are hypocrites. At least you’re admitting it now. That’s an improvement! ???? 

Better go and check the meaning of hypocrites. Have a look in Google Translate whydontcha?