Britain's May to agree departure after latest Brexit deal bid

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Britain's May to agree departure after latest Brexit deal bid

By Kylie MacLellan and Elizabeth Piper

 

Britain's Prime Minister Theresa May is seen outside Downing Street, as uncertainty over Brexit continues, in London, Britain May 15, 2019. REUTERS/Hannah Mckay

 

LONDON (Reuters) - British Prime Minister Theresa May will set out a timetable for her departure in early June after the latest attempt to get her Brexit deal approved by parliament, the chairman of a powerful Conservative committee said on Thursday.

 

Three years after Britain voted to leave the European Union, there is little clarity over when, how and even whether Brexit will happen, prompting some in her party to call for a new approach to the country's biggest policy shift in more than 40 years.

 

May has promised to step down after her Brexit deal is approved by lawmakers. But many in her party want her to set out clearly when she will quit if the agreement is rejected for a fourth time, and others are demanding her immediate departure.

 

"The prime minister is determined to secure our departure from the European Union," Graham Brady, chair of the 1922 Committee that can make or break party leaders, said following a meeting between his committee's executive and May in parliament which he described as a "very frank exchange".

 

The government has said lawmakers will be able to debate and vote on the Withdrawal Agreement Bill, the legislation required to enact May's Brexit deal, in the week starting June 3.

 

"We have agreed that she and I will meet following the second reading of the Bill to agree a timetable for the election of a new leader," Brady said, adding that the conversation would take place whether the bill was passed or not.

 

May, who became prime minister in the chaos that followed the 2016 referendum when Britons voted 52% to 48% to leave the EU, survived a no-confidence vote of her Conservative lawmakers in December.

 

Under current party rules, she cannot be challenged again for a year, but some on Brady's committee had pushed for those rules to be changed in order to try to force her out earlier if she refused to set out a clear departure date.

 

Boris Johnson, the face of the campaign for Britain to leave the European Union, said he would stand as a candidate to replace May as Conservative leader.

 

"FURTHER PROCRASTINATION"

May's Brexit deal has been rejected three times by parliament, and weeks of talks with the opposition Labour Party, the idea of which was deeply unpopular with many Conservatives, have failed to find a consensus on the way forward.

 

A BBC reporter said on Thursday those talks were due to be called off soon after the ruling Conservatives gave up on any hope of a resolution.

 

Mired in Brexit deadlock and forced to delay Britain's March 29 exit from the EU, May's Conservatives suffered major losses in local elections this month and are trailing in opinion polls before May 23 European Parliament elections.

 

With Labour and Brexit-supporting rebels in the Conservatives planning to vote against her deal, it is unlikely to be approved as things stand.

 

Pro-Brexit Conservative lawmakers were unimpressed with May's failure to set a firm date to quit. One, who declined to be named, described it as "yet further procrastination which is causing appalling damage to the Conservative Party."

 

Another, Andrew Bridgen, said May was "an increasingly beleaguered and isolated prime minister who is desperate to salvage something from her premiership and is prepared to drive through an agreement that would fatally hamstring any future prime minister in negotiations with the EU."

 

(Additional reporting by Kate Holton and Guy Faulconbridge, Editing by Hugh Lawson and James Dalgleish)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-05-17

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[Topdoc]

It's time for a new chapter in British politics

[Emdog]

Maybe 10 Downing could become an Air BnB?

[terryw]

Good riddance PM May. Hopefully this is the start of cleaning the swamp from Parliament.

[Phuketshrew]

Yay! May is on her way.

[Basil B]

1 hour ago, Phuketshrew said:

Yay! May is on her way.

Nothing new, She said she was going last November.

 

Just that most of us want to know when?

[Thingamabob]

About time. Her time as PM has been entirely self-centered.

[tebee]

 

The problem is even if she goes it ain't going to change anything.

 

There is no parliamentary majority for any option, especially no deal.

 

The EU are not going to offer us any better option - except maybe a softer version of the current deal 

 

 

[mikecha]

Who takes over Mays role will be in the same situation the chaos is still there 

 

i think she is not all to blame that  brexit deal did not go through because it takes all her team to help and give ideas it does not just come from her .

 

And mister Borris Johnson and company   will also not get this job done they walked away when the fan got hit and now he want to come back  i.think it was better he suported the party he belongs to and try and make the brexit work

just maybe stay in te eu who knows where it will end 

1 thing for sure is 

somebody will end up rich from all this meetings flying around hotels waisting tax payers money must have cos millions over 3 years ,and still need to pay more 

the poor british people have been forgotten just bresit but other  big thngs like medical pensions day to day running of this country completley in the trash can 

 

What a great shame as Great Britain is  a fantastic land especialy Scotland beautiful  

 

 

[evadgib]

2 hours ago, tebee said:

 

The problem is even if she goes it ain't going to change anything.

 

There is no parliamentary majority for any option, especially no deal.

 

The EU are not going to offer us any better option - except maybe a softer version of the current deal 

 

 

Everything changes if Gina Miller's route works in reverse. In the meantime we'll have to do with Ferage.

[RuamRudy]

8 minutes ago, mikecha said:

Who takes over Mays role will be in the same situation the chaos is still there 

 

i think she is not all to blame that  brexit deal did not go through because it takes all her team to help and give ideas it does not just come from her .

 

And mister Borris Johnson and company   will also not get this job done they walked away when the fan got hit and now he want to come back  i.think it was better he suported the party he belongs to and try and make the brexit work

just maybe stay in te eu who knows where it will end 

1 thing for sure is 

somebody will end up rich from all this meetings flying around hotels waisting tax payers money must have cos millions over 3 years ,and still need to pay more 

the poor british people have been forgotten just bresit but other  big thngs like medical pensions day to day running of this country completley in the trash can 

 

What a great shame as Great Britain is  a fantastic land especialy Scotland beautiful  

 

 

Great Britain will continue to exist, and Scotland will remain every bit as beautiful, but the fall-out from all of this can be positive. It will hopefully see all 4 nations which currently make up the UK separate peacefully and enter into a new era of mutual support and cooperation without the perceived inequity of a Westminster dominated legislature. 

 

Much as Brexiteers challenge the narrative that Brexit will cause misery, the myth that the UK provides a lifeline to Scotland and Wales without which they could not survive is just that - a myth. Otherwise it is a damning indictment on the UK itself that, after 300 years, it has failed to develop its outlying member countries. 

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, tebee said:

 

The problem is even if she goes it ain't going to change anything.

 

There is no parliamentary majority for any option, especially no deal.

 

The EU are not going to offer us any better option - except maybe a softer version of the current deal 

 

 

Agreed, but her getting the boot is good news. 

Boris will hopefully get the job and that will make things much more entertaining if nothing else.

[Loiner]

Nothing new, She said she was going last November.
 
Just that most of us want to know when?

True. The sooner the better, but who knows what further damage she will do in the meantime?
What can she possibly hope to achieve by bringing her Surrender Treaty back to Parliament for a fourth time? Will she leave in an imaginary blaze of glory, or be shot down in a spiral of flames and smoke?
She has proved that she is not to be trusted in anything she says.

[sawadee1947]

UK = Laughing  Stock of Europe 

[evadgib]

4 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

UK = Laughing  Stock of Europe 

For now

[mrfill]

57 minutes ago, Loiner said:

True. The sooner the better, but who knows what further damage she will do in the meantime?
What can she possibly hope to achieve by bringing her Surrender Treaty back to Parliament for a fourth time? Will she leave in an imaginary blaze of glory, or be shot down in a spiral of flames and smoke?
She has proved that she is not to be trusted in anything she says.

Whereas Boris Johnson is a well known truth speaker.

Yeah, right...

[puipuitom]

6 hours ago, Basil B said:

Nothing new, She said she was going last November.

Just that most of us want to know when?

No, end of October… 

[dunroaming]

So now the talks with Labour have officially broken down it's another nail hammered home into May's coffin.

 

Ironic that the modern day "Moody Blues" (i.e. the Tories!) are starting to sing "Go Now!"

[Baerboxer]

On 5/17/2019 at 1:20 PM, RuamRudy said:

Great Britain will continue to exist, and Scotland will remain every bit as beautiful, but the fall-out from all of this can be positive. It will hopefully see all 4 nations which currently make up the UK separate peacefully and enter into a new era of mutual support and cooperation without the perceived inequity of a Westminster dominated legislature. 

 

Much as Brexiteers challenge the narrative that Brexit will cause misery, the myth that the UK provides a lifeline to Scotland and Wales without which they could not survive is just that - a myth. Otherwise it is a damning indictment on the UK itself that, after 300 years, it has failed to develop its outlying member countries. 

 

The 'chip on the shoulder' never goes for some!

 

Let's pretend we're all 4 sovereign nations and not actually one! 

 

Maybe the Shetland's and Orkney's would like to join Norway? 

 

The majority of British people, where ever they and their families are from, treat the country as a whole, and have followed their chosen career and education paths where ever they wanted. Some moan on and expect hand-outs and feel they should somehow be entitled to rules and boss the vast majority who aren't like this. And they're usually the ones who waffle on about democracy too!

 

Should that dark day ever come, don't expect the majority to accept the minority dictating how things are gonna be.

[Baerboxer]

On 5/17/2019 at 4:04 PM, mrfill said:

Whereas Boris Johnson is a well known truth speaker.

Yeah, right...

 

Johnson, Gove, R-Mogg, Rudd, -  would you trust any of them?

 

Not quite as obvious as the spivy Farage, but all have a problem with the truth.

[Loiner]

7 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Johnson, Gove, R-Mogg, Rudd, -  would you trust any of them?

 

Not quite as obvious as the spivy Farage, but all have a problem with the truth.

All or any of those would get my vote, if it ever comes around to it. Jacob Rees-Mogg is a particularly good egg and should rise rapidly from the back benches.

For sure Nigel and his party will be getting my vote on Thursday. 

[RuamRudy]

48 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

The 'chip on the shoulder' never goes for some!

 

Let's pretend we're all 4 sovereign nations and not actually one! 

 

Maybe the Shetland's and Orkney's would like to join Norway? 

 

The majority of British people, where ever they and their families are from, treat the country as a whole, and have followed their chosen career and education paths where ever they wanted. Some moan on and expect hand-outs and feel they should somehow be entitled to rules and boss the vast majority who aren't like this. And they're usually the ones who waffle on about democracy too!

 

Should that dark day ever come, don't expect the majority to accept the minority dictating how things are gonna be.

 

I can understand why the majority of UK citizens might object to Scottish independence - hell, the majority have been bleeding Scotland dry for 300 years. But it is time that you learn to stand on your own two feet rather than expect your neighbours to continue to supplement your lifestyle.  Go on - take responsibility for yourselves for once. 

 

EDIT: Scotland is sovereign. 

Claim of Right for Scotland

“That this House endorses the principles of the Claim of Right for Scotland, agreed by the Scottish Constitutional Convention in 1989 and by the Scottish Parliament in 2012, and therefore acknowledges the sovereign right of the Scottish people to determine the form of government best suited to their needs.”

[billd766]

41 minutes ago, Loiner said:

All or any of those would get my vote, if it ever comes around to it. Jacob Rees-Mogg is a particularly good egg and should rise rapidly from the back benches.

For sure Nigel and his party will be getting my vote on Thursday. 

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