UK PM May to make 'new, bold offer' in Brexit bill, Labour sceptical

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UK PM May to make 'new, bold offer' in Brexit bill, Labour sceptical

By Paul Sandle and James Davey

 

FILE PHOTO: Britain's Prime Minister Theresa May is seen outside Downing Street in London, Britain May 15, 2019. REUTERS/Hannah Mckay/File photo

 

LONDON (Reuters) - British Prime Minister Theresa May said she will present a "new, bold offer" to lawmakers with "an improved package of measures" in a final attempt to get the Brexit divorce deal through parliament before she leaves office.

 

After failing three times to get parliament's approval for her deal, the government will now put the Withdrawal Agreement Bill, legislation which will enact that deal, before parliament for a vote in early June.

 

"Whatever the outcome of any (indicative) votes, I will not be simply asking MPs (lawmakers) to think again. Instead I will ask them to look at a new and improved deal with a fresh pair of eyes - and to give it their support," May wrote in the Sunday Times newspaper.

 

The date of the vote and the substance of what lawmakers will be asked to consider - including whether they will be given chance to indicate what preferences might secure a majority before the vote is binding - have yet to be made public.

 

Brexit talks between May's Conservatives and the opposition Labour Party collapsed on Friday, hours after May, who sealed the deal with the European Union last year, agreed to set out in early June a timetable for her departure.

 

The winner of a leadership contest to succeed her will automatically become prime minister and will take control of the Brexit process, which has plunged Britain into its worst political crisis since World War Two.

 

Facing her last chance to push through the exit from the bloc, which has defined her time in office since the fallout from the referendum in 2016, May said common ground with Labour had been found in workers' rights and protections, the environment and security.

 

"When the Withdrawal Agreement Bill comes before MPs, it will represent a new, bold offer to MPs across the House of Commons, with an improved package of measures that I believe can win new support," she said.

 

WORKERS' RIGHTS

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, however, said May had not moved away from any of the red lines that shaped her previous attempt.

 

"We haven't seen whatever the new bill is going to be yet but nothing I've heard leads me to believe it is fundamentally any different from the previous bill that has been put forward so as of now we are not supporting it," he said in a pre-recorded interview broadcast on the BBC's Andrew Marr show.

 

International Development Secretary Rory Stewart said on the same programme on Sunday the Conservative and Labour positions were close - only "about half an inch apart" - in areas such as workers' rights, the environment and the future trading relationship.

 

He said Corbyn's only other demand was the option for a second referendum on any Brexit deal agreed by lawmakers.

 

"That is going beyond," said Stewart, who has said he would run for the party leadership. "But within the terms of a Brexit deal, I don't believe there's anything that Jeremy Corbyn or we want that is that far apart."

 

Support for the two main parties has collapsed ahead of elections for the European Parliament on Thursday, opinion polls indicate, with voters turning instead to the single-issue Brexit Party and, to a lesser extent, the pro-remain Liberal Democrats.

 

On Saturday Labour's Brexit spokesman Keir Starmer said the government should put a promise to hold a further public vote on the face of the Withdrawal Agreement Bill to break the Brexit impasse.

 

Corbyn said he would be willing to consider a new offer, including for example new legislation that entrenched workers' rights in law.

 

"We would obviously look at it very carefully in parliament and we would obviously reserve our right to either amend it or oppose it depending on what's in it," he said. "I can't give it a blank cheque."

 

May will consult cabinet colleagues on proposed changes to the withdrawal agreement aimed at securing cross-party support this week, the Sunday Times said.

 

Nearly three years after the United Kingdom voted 52% to 48% in a referendum to leave the EU, it remains unclear how, when or even if the country will leave the European club it joined in 1973. The current deadline to leave is Oct. 31.

 

(Reporting by James Davey and Paul Sandle; Editing by Daniel Wallis)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-05-20

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[BobBKK]

New bold offer....? great Second Ref coming then?

[Topdoc]

'bold offer' or 'old offer' ?

According to The Telegraph: a leaked document has revealed it contains nothing more than the old ideas.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/19/theresa-mays-bold-brexit-offer-just-retread-old-ideas-leaked/

 

[Emdog]

Maybe return parliamentary power to the monarchy. Might be only way out of the bucket of eels known as Brexit.

[phantomfiddler]

This lady surely does have a strong constitution ???? She deserves a medal for bravery in the face of the enemy !

[geoffbezoz]

8 minutes ago, Emdog said:

Maybe return parliamentary power to the monarchy. Might be only way out of the bucket of eels known as Brexit.

And we are well aware of who was reported to talk to his vegetables so guess what ?  that would mean zero change  as there would no intelligent input provided by vegetables in his estates nor the Brexit vegetables in parliament.

[geoffbezoz]

1 hour ago, BobBKK said:

New bold offer....? great Second Ref coming then?

Without a shadow of a doubt.

[Chomper Higgot]

She’s tried crafting a secrete deal and withholding that from Parliamentary scrutiny.

 

She’s tried enacting Henry VIII powers to push her secret deal through by executive order.

 

When dragged before Parliament by ‘enemies of the people’ she tried to force Parliament’s acquiesce by presenting ‘her deal’ at the very last moment.

 

She’s repeatedly tried to get ‘her deal’ through Parliament despite the  clear message that ‘her deal’ is not acceptable.

 

She’s drawn numerous pointless ‘redlines’, only to retreat behind and then abandon them.

 

When all else has failed she’s had the ‘bright idea’ (folly) she might be able to enlist the help of the Opposition.

 

And if all that isn’t bad enough, the Brexiteers in her party have remained hidden in the background, only once offering to present an ‘alternative Plan B’ but failing even to deliver that.

 

This crock of Brexit has turned out to be exactly what ‘project fear’ said it would be.

 

Better still, it is failing to prevent what it was meant to avoid - A schism in the Tory Party.

 

[evadgib]

52 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

She’s tried crafting a secrete deal and withholding that from Parliamentary scrutiny.

 

She’s tried enacting Henry VIII powers to push her secret deal through by executive order.

 

When dragged before Parliament by ‘enemies of the people’ she tried to force Parliament’s acquiesce by presenting ‘her deal’ at the very last moment.

 

She’s repeatedly tried to get ‘her deal’ through Parliament despite the  clear message that ‘her deal’ is not acceptable.

 

She’s drawn numerous pointless ‘redlines’, only to retreat behind and then abandon them.

 

When all else has failed she’s had the ‘bright idea’ (folly) she might be able to enlist the help of the Opposition.

 

And if all that isn’t bad enough, the Brexiteers in her party have remained hidden in the background, only once offering to present an ‘alternative Plan B’ but failing even to deliver that.

 

This crock of Brexit has turned out to be exactly what ‘project fear’ said it would be.

 

Better still, it is failing to prevent what it was meant to avoid - A schism in the Tory Party.

 

Get yer popcorn ready ????

 

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, phantomfiddler said:

This lady surely does have a strong constitution ???? She deserves a medal for bravery in the face of the enemy !

She deserved a boot long ago.

[JonnyF]

2 hours ago, phantomfiddler said:

This lady surely does have a strong constitution ???? She deserves a medal for bravery in the face of the enemy !

Nothing wrong with her durability.

 

It's her stubbornness, duplicity and dishonesty that causes the problems. The sooner she goes the better. Her time as PM has been an abject failure. She is a national embarrassment. 

[Thingamabob]

Hopeless. May is incomptent and dishonest.

[bizboi]

If Corbyn wasnt such a liar - what the people voted for could have been delivered long ago!!

[blazes]

Somehow, the name of Theresa May and the word "bold" seem oxymoronic.

[Chomper Higgot]

16 minutes ago, bizboi said:

If Corbyn wasnt such a liar - what the people voted for could have been delivered long ago!!

It isn’t nor has it ever been Corbyn’s job to deliver Brexit.

 

Please educate yourself on how the UK’s Parliament works.

[sawadee1947]

3 hours ago, Emdog said:

Maybe return parliamentary power to the monarchy. Might be only way out of the bucket of eels known as Brexit.

Good idea. It's well known that the Queen is a remainer. 

[sawadee1947]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Nothing wrong with her durability.

 

It's her stubbornness, duplicity and dishonesty that causes the problems. The sooner she goes the better. Her time as PM has been an abject failure. She is a national embarrassment. 

International laughing stock.... 

[dick dasterdly]

13 minutes ago, blazes said:

Somehow, the name of Theresa May and the word "bold" seem oxymoronic.

She's just a typical politician - out to do the best for herself, and those who will pay her in the future.

[nauseus]

The Star Trek Offer

Space, the final frontier....

These are the voyages of the Starship Maybot
Her five year mission
To explore strange new agreements
To seek out low lifes
And end civilization
To boldly offer what no bot has offered before.....

 

In the 21st Century, the UK is trapped as a member of the EU, a federal alliance led by undemocratic forces that want a free army, a la carte, to patrol the expanding frontier of Europe. The UK's attempt to escape this space onion are continually thwarted by their installed leader, Maybot, who in reality is a Klingon (no chit).

 

 

  

 

Edited May 20, 2019 by nauseus
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[Loiner]

7 hours ago, Topdoc said:

'bold offer' or 'old offer' ?

According to The Telegraph: a leaked document has revealed it contains nothing more than the old ideas.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/19/theresa-mays-bold-brexit-offer-just-retread-old-ideas-leaked/

 

Unless it's bold enough to ditch her Merkel/May Surrender Treaty, she has nothing to offer. She aligned herself with the EU and almost committed the UK to vassalage. Although the obvious way out of the impasse, it's extremely unlikely the EU has agreed to any relaxation of their proposed divorce deal, so Theresa's words of "...new bold offer... improved package of measures..." are obviously taken from soap powder adverts. She's only soft soaping the MPs and appeasing Jeremy Corbyn. 

[Krataiboy]

6 hours ago, phantomfiddler said:

This lady surely does have a strong constitution ???? She deserves a medal for bravery in the face of the enemy !

Which enemy are you talking about, the Brussels mafia or the British people?

[Loiner]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It isn’t nor has it ever been Corbyn’s job to deliver Brexit.

 

Please educate yourself on how the UK’s Parliament works.

It's not his job to block the delivery of the referendum result either, but he is doing that. His MPs vote against the government bills, not to reflect the will of their constituents, but only to try and gain a change of power to LAB.

[tebee]

Just now, Loiner said:

His MPs vote against the government bills, ...

That's sort of the job of her majesty's Opposition ....

[Loiner]

2 minutes ago, tebee said:

That's sort of the job of her majesty's Opposition ....

NOT in the case of the referendum bills.

[tebee]

12 minutes ago, Loiner said:

NOT in the case of the referendum bills.

And that is why we don't have binding referendums in the UK - it would stop MP being able to do their jobs ....

 

Though I suspect some leavers might see that as a good thing. 

[Thingamabob]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It isn’t nor has it ever been Corbyn’s job to deliver Brexit.

 

Please educate yourself on how the UK’s Parliament works.

Smart arse.

[Krataiboy]

4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It isn’t nor has it ever been Corbyn’s job to deliver Brexit.

 

Thank goodness. He couldn't deliver the milk.

Edited May 20, 2019 by Krataiboy

[Patriot1066]

5 hours ago, bizboi said:

If Corbyn wasnt such a liar - what the people voted for could have been delivered long ago!!

Yes Labour lied to get votes which undermined the last General election. They promised to deliver Brexit then have tried to block it since they were elected.

[mommysboy]

Seasoned posters will know that I have been predicting 'no deal' or 'no Brexit' as the only realistic outcomes for some time.  Although I'd prefer no Brexit I'm ok with either.

[puipuitom]

4 minutes ago, Patriot1066 said:

Yes Labour lied to get votes which undermined the last General election. They promised to deliver Brexit then have tried to block it since they were elected.

Which Brexit ? A HARD Brexit, so a border between N & S Ireland, mening a the Good Friday treaty was worth only 20 years, or.. a soft ( Norwegian / Swiss) Brexit or a softy-soft Brexit or ? ? Already an idea - since 2013 thinking - how the Gibraltar - Spain border will be ?