Long time reader, first time poster. 

 

Are there any testing facilities in Chiang Mai for relationship based polygraph tests? 

Man sorry but if you need her to get a poly then you already have your answer

Man sorry but if you need her to get a poly then you already have your answer

Maybe the Poly is for him... [emoji848]

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As well as being unreliable, polygraphs are a major cause of suicide and unemployment.  Best avoided.

 

https://metro.co.uk/2019/05/15/jeremy-kyle-show-cancelled-suspected-guest-suicide-9543981/

Check their phone and laptop....far more reliable.

Nah they have even stopped Jeremy dong them. You’re Donald ducked I’m afraid. 

Go with your instinct. If you think she is odds on you’re right. 

Are you from the USA?

If you need a polygraph to back up your story or to prove her story, your relationship is already far beyond saving. If there is no trust, there is no relationship, only a commercial bond.

That OP must just be to have a go at readers as no one could be that stupid in the first place. A Polygraph test??? LOL. Thanks very much for the smile on my mug reading the OP and the responses.


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Shyguy99

 if you dont trust her, your relationship is finished, if you have no trust you have nothing

8 hours ago, shyguy99 said:

Are there any testing facilities in Chiang Mai for relationship based polygraph tests?

Only waterboarding available. 

isn't that what the embassies were using when doing declarations?

1 hour ago, FolkGuitar said:

If you need a polygraph to back up your story or to prove her story, your relationship is already far beyond saving. If there is no trust, there is no relationship, only a commercial bond.

So stop playing with an obvious negative situation which will never improve, forget it and move on, today.

9 hours ago, shyguy99 said:

Long time reader, first time poster. 

 

Are there any testing facilities in Chiang Mai for relationship based polygraph tests? 

Pretty funny OP.  And if your GF does take a polygraph and passes, it could mean:

1. She's telling the truth

or

2. She's lying but is a sociopath who can easily beat the test.  

 

Good luck with that!

What's it called when someone posts something just to get a rise out of people? 

I would search and contact a PI.

You may have to go to Bangkok for a poly.

It will probably be around 10,000 b for one polygraph test.

Polygraph.co.th.  

 

They claimed to service CM?  Phone#’s 66 02 650 9700 or 09 88 9 66 833.

 

Thailand Polygraph Association.  Mostly for commercial purposes(employee theft and/or fraud).  

Weird, notifications weren't coming in. 

 

Yes, I'm from the states. 

 

In the last twelve months, I've seen her six times (each trip averaging 10-20 days). She lives at home. Works for her family. Seen family. Eaten dinner with family. Traveled with family. 

 

It all started with inconsistent information. And the reason I was looking for inconsistencies is because of reading basically every article in trying to determine if a thai girl is good or bad. Now, for what it's worth, she looks like she's going to temple every morning. The only characteristic that I checked off in the list of what to look for in a bad thai girl was lying, again, because I was looking for it. 

 

But then, a very serious issue occurred and I had questions about the legitimacy of her story. Her crying and screaming when asked for the truth made it seem as if she was telling the truth. Foaming at the mouth, calling me bad names, needing time alone, unsure if she wants to be with me, basically everything (I know, I know, you experienced folk will roll your eyes... smdh). I was stunned, her reaction, was it genuine? I had to believe or else I was dating a pathological sociopath.

 

The weeks following the accusation and confrontation, things returned back to normal. Sorry, "normal". Then she pulled the most insane stunt on me. For nearly two hours when we were trying to have a video call, she would cover the front facing camera of her iPhone X. I asked, why are you covering the camera. She said, why would I do that. Two... hours... starting and stopping the call to get rid of the orange picture. Of the 60 attempts, maybe 10 times it worked. It became obvious I had a dangerous person on my hands when I literally saw her finger slip in front of the camera which turned the picture to orange (go out in the sun and cover your front camera, this is what I saw for two hours). She goes MIA, the next day, she called and said I fixed my phone, they took 3,500B.  I tried to play it cool and asked her if everything was working. She said yes, everything is fine now. I asked, even Face ID? Yes, why? Oh nothing, just checking. Google.... if I replace my front facing camera with a cheap Thai camera not from Apple, will my Face ID still work. You know the answer.

 

At this point, the relationship was over in my eyes. But that little curious bug inside of me wanted to know if I can pull apart the, what I didn't know at the time, sophisticated lie. And as many attempts as I write this, I have to remove a lot of detail from the post. But I wish I could say exactly what happened. It would be one of the greatest things you've read about how the lie was revealed. To make the story short, we were having dinner after just landing in Chiang Mai and the investigator was sending me live information. Once I had the full report, I flipped my phone to her, showed it to her, she gets up, takes her purse, and walks out.

 

Now the reason for the LDT. She wants me back and said she will do anything to regain my trust. I told her the trust is 0. You are a dishonest person that I want nothing to do with. The emails flooded my inbox. The text messages were averaging 30 a day. Because her parents are involved in our problem, they won't let her go to BKK to take the test. So she said, so my parents don't stop me, please find one local to me and I can take it without disturbing their feelings. 

 

And that's where I'm at. I've left the subject alone and had no contact with her until I have a solution. If there isn't one, then we good to go. 

 

Glad the OP came back to explain the situation. 

 

You know it's true that people can't change the type of person they truly are, and this person has already lied to you and played games. Don't waste your time and money accommodating her and her parents wish to confirm truth or lies on their terms. They all want a nice big sin sod wedding in the end and will gladly spend some money manipulating things their way if you give them control.

 

I would advise you to pack it in and move on, but if you insist on giving this person another chance (or hope she will somehow magically become an honest person) by going the polygraph route, at least do it completely on your terms in BKK with them having no prior knowledge. If they won't, then you definitely have your answer and every reason to dump her.....again. 

I would imagine polygraphs in Thailand are very expensive anyway (someone quoted 10k a session).

 

They probably burn the machine out three times a day.

Not changing is my biggest concern. She's expressed remorse, regret, etc. in her emails, texts, and video apologies. But I am absolutely sticking to my guns on this one. Take the test and pass, or else there is nothing left. She resisted the first couple of days because of it being an entire family issue and them saying it's over, to move on as well. When I told her it's time to make a decision so we can move on with our lives, she agreed to take it. 

 

She had explained that she did not want a big wedding with a big sin sod. She wanted to have a small private wedding in America with just her immediate family attending. She did not want gold for her mom or dad. The number she threw out to give her mom and dad was fairly small, especially considering the ring cost she found acceptable. I was previously married a few years ago, I'm 35, and she's 30. And I can tell you, my ex's ring cost more than the sin sod, her ring, private ceremony, dress, etc. So that area never shook me or stood out as a concern.  

 

In person, yes, she is sweet, quiet, attentive, etc. But accepting the lying cannot be offset with those things. The good things inherently exist in other girls and without lying, so why make the compromise. I think the hardest part I'm facing is abandoning her. Everyone around me said she's no longer my responsibility. This is true, but does the history and year long investment require one to be a little bit more thoughtful? I simply do not know....

3 minutes ago, Traubert said:

I would imagine polygraphs in Thailand are very expensive anyway (someone quoted 10k a session).

 

They probably burn the machine out three times a day.

The investigation from earlier this month cost many times that. It was incredibly sensitive information and I'm sure it was difficult to acquire it without lining some pockets. The flight to BKK, hotel, test, etc. for her and her family would be less. 

18 minutes ago, shyguy99 said:

The investigation from earlier this month cost many times that. It was incredibly sensitive information and I'm sure it was difficult to acquire it without lining some pockets. The flight to BKK, hotel, test, etc. for her and her family would be less. 

Whhhoooossshhh!!!

 

It's your money, squire, and entirely your business what you do with it.

It's funny how in the west we call them "lie-detectors", but in Thailand they are called "truth-detectors". I think that tells you everything that you need to know. Pretty sure you could use the world's biggest truth detector over Bangkok and not get a single beep.

33 minutes ago, shyguy99 said:

Not changing is my biggest concern. She's expressed remorse, regret, etc. in her emails, texts, and video apologies.

Do you seriously think that she'll change her nature -- her stripes will magically become spots, so to speak? You know in you heart (and even in that head attached to your neck) what you should do, so just man up and do it. If you let her play you for a fool, you will have a wife and in-laws that have no respect for you, and eventually you'll have no respect for yourself. 

The benefit of the doubt can only go so far, and in this case, you're right, we're at the end. I must have suppressed this memory, but in the lie the investigator exposed, she was pulling her mom and sister to support her story. It'll be them against me and seeing who is more clever than the other. What kind of life is that... We're going to have to close the books on this one. Maybe Thai Friendly is a good way to meet a sweet, caring, loving girl? Ya? LOL

You need to see a shrink since you are unable to reasonably process your situation.

It is very clear that you should have ended it all some time ago.


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This is true. I rationalized her behavior to make it work. 

26 minutes ago, shyguy99 said:

The benefit of the doubt can only go so far, and in this case, you're right, we're at the end. I must have suppressed this memory, but in the lie the investigator exposed, she was pulling her mom and sister to support her story. It'll be them against me and seeing who is more clever than the other. What kind of life is that... We're going to have to close the books on this one. Maybe Thai Friendly is a good way to meet a sweet, caring, loving girl? Ya? LOL

Good for you. 

 

As for Thai Friendly, I suspect there are a few nice women with genuine intentions of finding a soul mate, but there are probably a lot more with serious intentions of finding a human ATM. 

Are you seriously going to to trust her again after your findings, whether she passes or fails the test?

If she passes this time she will feel she can do whatever she wants as the trust will be back. How many more tests are you willing to do to catch her next time?

At the end of the day the family will always stick together and plot their lies.

It’s just the way it is I’m afraid.