Popular Post rooster59 Posted June 1, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 1, 2019 Murder for 50,000 baht: Thai wife's elder brother wanted British expat’s money Image: Alan Hogg and wife Nott Suddaen in happier times buying a white Ford Ranger. A court in Phrae was told that a Thai brother paid a man 50,000 baht to help him arrange the murder of his own sister and a wealthy Scottish businessman last year. It was reported last year that Warut Ratanasajjakit, 63, wanted to get his hands on the money and estate of his sister Nott Suddaen, 61, and her husband Alan Hogg also in his sixties and originally from Scotland. Warut approached neighbor Sima Utphamoon, 60, with 100,000 baht to commit murder. But he wouldn't do it himself because Warut wanted his own sister murdered, reported Thai language media in Friday's judgment in the high profile case. But Sima took 50,000 baht (and 2,000 baht travel expenses) to introduce him to two accomplices called Pia Khamsai or Seuathong, 63, and Kittipong Khamwan or "Ai Yai" 24. The court heart that Pia shot Mr Hogg with a shotgun. While Kittipong held his wife Nott, her own brother smashed her over the head with a monkey wrench in a garage. All three then helped conceal the corpses by a duck pond using a back hoe. The couple lived on a spacious and sprawling ranch style property in Phrae, northern Thailand. Image: Alan Hogg’s home in Phrae Mr Hogg's Ford four door vehicle was then taken and sold on the black market. When the purchaser realized it was part of a murder investigation they returned it. It was reported at the time that this act help uncover the conspiracy. It was further reported back in September that Warut had been involved in a long running feud over money with Mr Hogg and his wife. The couple had lived for some time in Australia before setting up home in Phrae, Nott's hometown. Elizabeth Gray - believed to be Mr Hogg's daughter - and two relatives from the UK were in court to hear the judgment. Thai media reported that the daughter had been awarded 644,255 baht in funeral and travel expenses. Warut, Pia and Kittipong have been sentenced to death. Sima was given a life sentence commuted to 25 years in recognition for his help in the investigation. The family were reported to be satisfied with the judgment. Chief judge Sunet Satha said this was a high profile case involving a foreigner and the severe sentences were justified. -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-06-01 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 2 2
Popular Post Mavideol Posted June 1, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 1, 2019 1 hour ago, rooster59 said: Warut approached neighbor Sima Utphamoon, 60, with 100,000 baht to commit murder. price of a foreigner's life in Thailand,... the scum bags should rotten in jail 14 1 1
Popular Post freedomnow Posted June 1, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 1, 2019 Seems there is a case to put it around that if you die from murder or an 'accident', all money goes into hands of someone with power of attorney (not in the Thai family or wife) automatically that is in Thailand, and it will be sent to relatives offshore...regarding a house...mortgage, not lumpsum...pass up on the flash cars and flash talk also....wealth is stealth and all that. Be worth more alive than dead, as others have said.... 5
Popular Post ChipButty Posted June 1, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 1, 2019 Sima was given a life sentence commuted to 25 years in recognition for his help in the investigation. So he grassed his mates up 3 3 4 1
Popular Post Enoon Posted June 1, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 1, 2019 2 hours ago, ChipButty said: Sima was given a life sentence commuted to 25 years in recognition for his help in the investigation. So he grassed his mates up Would you not want your neighbour to "grass" his mates up if your BIL contracted them to kill you? Before they actually did it? Or would him doing so offend your severely warped concept of when, and especially to whom, "loyalty" is due? 18 8
Popular Post happy chappie Posted June 1, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 1, 2019 So sad but life in Thailand is on par with Africa I'm afraid to say. the man came to this country and probably helped the family but that wasn't enough the brother wanted the lot.hes pure evil and I hope he does a 10 stretch waiting to be hung or shot.as I've said so many times,make sure your worth more alive than dead in the land of smiles. 9
Popular Post guzzi850m2 Posted June 1, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 1, 2019 That dude killed his own sister for money. A cold hearted bastard and he can now go to hell. 17 2
Popular Post Odysseus123 Posted June 1, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 1, 2019 As another poster has said on another thread dealing with the same topic.. I paraphrase.. "Not the first and it won't be the last" 6
Popular Post newatthis Posted June 1, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 1, 2019 4 hours ago, ChipButty said: Sima was given a life sentence commuted to 25 years in recognition for his help in the investigation. So he grassed his mates up Nothing wrong with that where evil is involved. 13 1
55Jay Posted June 1, 2019 Posted June 1, 2019 I wonder what the background is regarding the dispute over money between Warut and the now deceased Hogg and his Thai wife? The mind wanders. 1
Popular Post ukrules Posted June 1, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 1, 2019 16 minutes ago, 55Jay said: I wonder what the background is regarding the dispute over money between Warut and the now deceased Hogg and his Thai wife? I'm going to hazard a guess that Warut had no money while the victims had plenty, probably due to a life of hard work. 21 2 2
Popular Post madmen Posted June 1, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 1, 2019 Any farang flaunting his wealth surrounded by poor Thais out in the sticks will always be a potential target 18 1 5
Popular Post mikebell Posted June 2, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 2, 2019 5 hours ago, ukrules said: I'm going to hazard a guess that Warut had no money while the victims had plenty, probably due to a life of hard work. Jealousy; many Thais feel the world owes them a living and envy the riches displayed by a farang achieved after forty years work plus savings. 17 1
Popular Post geoffbezoz Posted June 2, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 2, 2019 25 minutes ago, JAFO said: Absolutely. So many go on and on here about Thais being animals its really ignorant and stupid. People kill people all over the planet. What about the dad who killed his own 5 year old daughter in the states or the guy who killed his brother in the UK to take his car? Take this for what it was. Some bad seeds and greed. Doesn't matter where it happened or their nationality. The death penalty is fitting. But unlike Thailand it does not happen every day. 7 3 1
Popular Post JAFO Posted June 2, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 2, 2019 29 minutes ago, geoffbezoz said: But unlike Thailand it does not happen every day. Guess you do not read the news much. 12 1 3
metisdead Posted June 2, 2019 Posted June 2, 2019 Off topic trolling posts and replies have been removed. An offensive racist post and the replies removed.
Popular Post bkkgriz Posted June 2, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 2, 2019 7 hours ago, madmen said: Any farang flaunting his wealth surrounded by poor Thais out in the sticks will always be a potential target Yep, he totally deserved what he got. How dare he enjoy the fruits of his labors. Hey mate, when is the next Antifa meeting? 6 2
MellowYellow101 Posted June 2, 2019 Posted June 2, 2019 money makes people do some crazy things. If only they could realise that it doesn't matter how much money you have, if you carry dung around in your pocket, you will still be able to smell it wherever you go. 1 1
metisdead Posted June 2, 2019 Posted June 2, 2019 Some off topic posts and replies have been removed.
steve73 Posted June 2, 2019 Posted June 2, 2019 2 hours ago, mikebell said: Jealousy; many Thais feel the world owes them a living and envy the riches displayed by a farang achieved after forty years work plus savings. It's not just Thais that feel the world owes them a living..... but in the West they are amply rewarded with "welfare or benefits", so no need to resort to murder, although it does occur rarely. 2 2
bander Posted June 2, 2019 Posted June 2, 2019 16 hours ago, Mavideol said: price of a foreigner's life in Thailand,... the scum bags should rotten in jail Probably stole or borrowed the 100K from Alan and then used it as a murder contract payment. 2
Popular Post johng50 Posted June 2, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 2, 2019 7 hours ago, madmen said: Any farang flaunting his wealth surrounded by poor Thais out in the sticks will always be a potential target Dont have to be out in the sticks, anywhere in Thailand if a thai has a sniff of money, farangs will be a target, especially if your involved with a thai and family are jealous. 3
atyclb Posted June 2, 2019 Posted June 2, 2019 13 hours ago, guzzi850m2 said: That dude killed his own sister for money. A cold hearted bastard and he can now go to hell. too bad the murderers cannot be sent to a north korean gulag 1
Xaos Posted June 2, 2019 Posted June 2, 2019 Some thais are crazy over the money. Part of thier culture or brought up. Killing own sister. At dude is over 60. Greed 1
Popular Post the guest Posted June 2, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 2, 2019 Not sure why foreigners would come to Thailand to invest in anything. The system is geared-up for them to fall on their face. Remember: Thailand is for Thais, not anyone else ! 3 3
Popular Post Poggmahon Posted June 2, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 2, 2019 These people are just animals with electricity..... I'm going back to pattaya where I know who is my enemy and friend!! 2 1 1 1
soalbundy Posted June 2, 2019 Posted June 2, 2019 17 hours ago, Mavideol said: price of a foreigner's life in Thailand,... the scum bags should rotten in jail anyone's life, the price of a foreigner's live is perhaps higher than that of a Thai's. In the West paid killers don't discriminate, they aren't racist after all. 1 1 1
Popular Post Baerboxer Posted June 2, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, soalbundy said: anyone's life, the price of a foreigner's live is perhaps higher than that of a Thai's. In the West paid killers don't discriminate, they aren't racist after all. Indeed. I was acquainted with some very unsavory people in earlier days. In the late 90's GPB 500 was the going rate in Glasgow. And they didn't care about race, sex, politics, religion, age or anything other than the cash. More expensive "down South". They were asking 2k to break legs! Most of this type of violence was driven by debts, money lending, business rivals -legal or otherwise, rather than sibling murder for inheritance though, afaik. Poverty, greed, jealousy, fueled with alcohol and other drugs, lead to people doing nasty things. Add an element of self entitlement, lack of social responsibility and voila. 2 1
prakhonchai nick Posted June 2, 2019 Posted June 2, 2019 So, the 3 evil bastards have been sentenced to death. Why, then are they still alive? They confessed, so just get on with it and execute them! 2
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted June 2, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 2, 2019 Unfortunately, there are some people who will do anything to steal other people's money, and avoid having to work for a living. They are not particularly deserving of the precious oxygen we all breathe. I hope the courts are courageous enough to carry out these reasonable sentences. Death is what is deserved. Can anyone even consider the state of mind required to beat your own flesh and blood to death, over money? Sorry, but this worm was told once too often growing up, that he was special. The parents are at least partially responsible for this crime. 6
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