overherebc Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Salerno said: At Swampy? I was also under the impression your eye/s had to be very close to the scanner to get a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salerno Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, overherebc said: I was also under the impression your eye/s had to be very close to the scanner to get a result. Can be done up to a few metres but pretty sure you have to have had them scanned initially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 So no happy ending for him then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjo o tjim Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 8 hours ago, saigonsunset said: Question is why do they need scans of four fingers right hand followed by four left hand followed by each the thumps where one thump scan should be plenty for indentification? Maybe they are afraid one might cut off that finger to commit heinous crimes undetected while in Thailand? They are building their own database, so on initial entry they need everything. On exit it is just two or four fingers. (Forget which). This basically takes the place of whatever they currently have to track foreigners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropposurfer Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Went through Suwby the other day with business class tickets n sailed right by all the bull. pays to fly business ???? baggage is first out too. so long suckers ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, Tropposurfer said: Went through Suwby the other day with business class tickets n sailed right by all the bull. pays to fly business ???? baggage is first out too. so long suckers ! I flew business class yesterday . Both hands scanned at fast track lane on the way in. Not sure what point you are trying to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbra Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 How many future tourists will be reconsidering their destination's in lieu of being compelled to provide fingerprints here. I know that the majority of Australians won't be willing to be compelled to do anything whilst on a holiday they will go elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkcjag Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 10 hours ago, Eligius said: This scanning of our fingerprints is so disgusting. For most of my life - decades and decades - it has always been only CRIMINALS who have their fingerprints taken. Now the sheep all think it is perfectly acceptable for us all to be herded and monitored and branded. I will never agree with this insane Orwellian system of fake 'security' obsession and psychotic control-freakery - when the real monsters (yes, monsters) are the criminals in high places (the less than 1%) who are running the whole filthy show. Fingerprints in Singapore and Malaysia too recently... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 All the talk of biometric and facial recognition is a bit of a joke. Why do you think Facebook was invented. They have literally hundred of millions of photos of people from many different angles... and many of them with names attached (tagged). The recognition systems are so advanced that Australia has been discussing doing away with incoming immigration checks altogether and only using facial recognition. I don't mean like they are doing now where you look at the camera and then the gate opens. Cameras scanning hundreds of people simultaneously and recording the details.No gates., nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salerno Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, norbra said: I know that the majority of Australians won't be willing to be compelled to do anything whilst on a holiday they will go elsewhere Thanks for the laugh ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salerno Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, emptypockets said: The recognition systems are so advanced that Australia has been discussing doing away with incoming immigration checks altogether and only using facial recognition. Similar to Dubai: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxx Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, emptypockets said: The recognition systems are so advanced that Australia has been discussing doing away with incoming immigration checks altogether and only using facial recognition. Don't the corks hanging from the brims of the hats cause problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Went through 3 weeks ago. Left hand Right hand Two thumbs. It is cumbersome. Someone has obviously made a fortune supplying the scanners. Can see little reason why its done if the passport has biometric information in it already... Okay maybe once. And then just scan one hand or thumb. Nobody is going to have an hand transplanted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimcarr65 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Just another reason to check off the list of misery. Thailand after living there for three years and visiting 4 times after that including this year just has zero appeal anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, dallen52 said: Went through 3 weeks ago. Left hand Right hand Two thumbs. It is cumbersome. Someone has obviously made a fortune supplying the scanners. Can see little reason why its done if the passport has biometric information in it already... Okay maybe once. And then just scan one hand or thumb. Nobody is going to have an hand transplanted... Haven't been through swampy for a few months so don't know where the scanners are. It sounds like a daft question I know but I take it they are on the IO's booth desk, similar to Malaysia. So you get to the booth hand over PP and do the print scan and how long does it take for the scan to work, assuming it goes ok? Last time I did similar was in UK it was passport page in the reader, right hand on the scanner look at the camera and it took 4 or 5 seconds and there wasn't an IO in sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wileycoyote Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 My family were badly delayed Sat 1st June. European + Chinese flights arrived at same time and queues multiplied as simply too long to process + non enough Immigration counters manned. We were 90 minutes in queue and had to run to departures to make Bangkok Airways onward flight on separate ticket. We had given 3 hours connection time and because of Immigration queues it was a close thing that we made the flight . Bangkok Airways staff said this a happening all the time . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I fail to understand why they need to scan 8 fingers and 2 thumbs? Wouldn't the right thumb be sufficient to uniquely identify someone, if not, the left thumb combined should be more than enough. That would at least cut down the queue time by half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 10 hours ago, kotsak said: Pick your choice, either stuck in traffic jams or at the immigration queue. Or take the airport rail link and be packed in like sardines - admittedly, only during rush hour and the last few stations. Then, at the last station, Payathai, which is the real gem in the crown of jewels, people arriving have the pleasure of pushing their way, with luggage, through the crowd of people trying to board the train to get to the 2 exits!!! What fun that must be!!! The "architect" who designed that station should be prohibited from ever designing anything again! And then they scratch their heads and wonder why tourist arrivals from western nations are dropping!!! Only one of a long list of reasons. I can't help but think they've killed the goose that lays the golden egg. Queues at the airport, traffic congestion, packed trains, poorly designed stations, low level of English spoken by a lot of people employed in the hospitality industry, some, but not all, incompetent and dishonest taxi drivers and tuk tuk drivers, double pricing at popular tourist sights, hunting down tourists who do yoga splits in front of historical/religious sites, dirty beaches, etc. etc. etc. And don't get me going on the exchange rate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel52 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 At Swampy? Swampy? Just about any port of entry in the world almost, airports land border crossings it’s international dealing with biometrics used to be part of my job sometimes I had a month long class on biometrics at immigration control checkpoints back in 2006. We even had an ICE Agent as a guest speaker in the class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 WOW, Thailand 4.0! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel52 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Or take the airport rail link and be packed in like sardines - admittedly, only during rush hour and the last few stations. Then, at the last station, Payathai, which is the real gem in the crown of jewels, people arriving have the pleasure of pushing their way, with luggage, through the crowd of people trying to board the train to get to the 2 exits!!! What fun that must be!!! The "architect" who designed that station should be prohibited from ever designing anything again! And then they scratch their heads and wonder why tourist arrivals from western nations are dropping!!! Only one of a long list of reasons. I can't help but think they've killed the goose that lays the golden egg. Queues at the airport, traffic congestion, packed trains, poorly designed stations, low level of English spoken by a lot of people employed in the hospitality industry, some, but not all, incompetent and dishonest taxi drivers and tuk tuk drivers, double pricing at popular tourist sights, hunting down tourists who do yoga splits in front of historical/religious sites, dirty beaches, etc. etc. etc. And don't get me going on the exchange rate! I’m guessing you’re from Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuandjulie Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 10 hours ago, Razek said: They just copy what european did . No they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuandjulie Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 If the scanners are as good as the one on my Samsung I wouldn't worry, you could be Pablo Escabar and still get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel52 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I was also under the impression your eye/s had to be very close to the scanner to get a result. Not anymore. everyone ought to know technology is pretty amazing these days it’s amazing what they can do everyone who’s ever crossed over almost any international port of entry has seen the little lenses it’s part of the process before they stamp your passport into almost any country these days if you’re living here in Thailand and have ever traveled abroad you know exactly what I’m talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mel52 said: I’m guessing you’re from Australia What does my nationality have to do with with queues, dropping tourist arrivals, unsatisfactory/inadequate public transport, etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salerno Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, Mel52 said: Swampy? Just about any port of entry in the world almost, airports land border crossings it’s international dealing with biometrics used to be part of my job sometimes I had a month long class on biometrics at immigration control checkpoints back in 2006 Sorry mate, when did they get the initial Iris scans from? Cameras at Swampy are not Iris scanners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel52 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 What does my nationality have to do with with queues, dropping tourist arrivals, unsatisfactory/inadequate public transport, etc.?Just your tone and particularly complaining about the exchange rate I feel sorry for you guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 48 minutes ago, dallen52 said: Can see little reason why its done if the passport has biometric information in it already... To make sure it matches? I mean, y'know, it's just a shot in the dark, but maybe........ Hells teeth, I despair...... Actually, no I don't, this is daily multiple occurrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel52 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Sorry mate, when did they get the initial Iris scans from? Cameras at Swampy are not Iris scanners.Dude I’m sorry but you’re honestly not making any sense maybe you’re trying to be funny if so I’m not getting the joke you kind of lost me there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Just now, Mel52 said: Just your tone and particularly complaining about the exchange rate I feel sorry for you guys If you go back and read my comment, you'll see that it was not the main point. Personally, I'm not too pushed by the exchange rate as my income is in THB, so, am on the up side. The other complaints were all valid grievances which anybody, who travels/has travelled, would notice and compare to other cities/countries they'd been to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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