Popular Post rooster59 Posted August 3, 2019 Popular Post Posted August 3, 2019 No references to Thai democracy at Asean meeting: Don By The Nation Foreign Minister Don Pradmudwinai said the Asean Foreign Ministers’ meeting in Bangkok on Friday (August 2) did not dwell on the political situation or democracy in Thailand. He was speaking to reporters at the end of the meeting on Friday night, when he was asked to comment on a statement by US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo about Thailand’s democracy. During a joint press statement with Don, Pompeo said 2019 was a historic year for Thailand following the coronation of King Rama X and following the general election that elected a civilian government and ended the rule by a military-backed government, which was in power for over five years. Pompeo said the US hoped to see Thailand move forward in the democratic direction. Don said the Asean meeting did not discuss about democracy in Thailand because the Kingdom has already held an election and the country is now ruled by an elected coalition government, which has delivered its policy statement to Parliament. “There is no question about Thailand’s democracy because it already exists,” Don said. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30374152 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2019-08-04 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 4
Popular Post KiChakayan Posted August 3, 2019 Popular Post Posted August 3, 2019 Remember Prayut's "Thai style democracy". 1 6
Popular Post Thaiwrath Posted August 3, 2019 Popular Post Posted August 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, rooster59 said: “There is no question about Thailand’s democracy because it already exists,” Don said. His definition of 'democracy' massively differs from other people's definition. A rigged election, decision of seat allocation after people have voted, and 250 unelected senators (junta selected), are NOT part of a democracy ! 15 3
Popular Post mok199 Posted August 4, 2019 Popular Post Posted August 4, 2019 A nation lost,in its own ego.. 12 2
Popular Post PatOngo Posted August 4, 2019 Popular Post Posted August 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, mok199 said: A nation lost, in its own ego.. ...and insatiable greed! 7
YetAnother Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 43 minutes ago, rooster59 said: “There is no question about Thailand’s democracy because it already exists,” Don said. it does indeed exist; a sham 1
Popular Post Cadbury Posted August 4, 2019 Popular Post Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, rooster59 said: No references to Thai democracy at Asean meeting That's because there is no democracy. The country is still controlled by the ex junta leader and his junta cronies plus a few turncoats from other Parties. At these ASEAN type meetings diplomacy pushes all that under the carpet. 9
Popular Post TeaMonkey Posted August 4, 2019 Popular Post Posted August 4, 2019 There is no criticism because money talks more than peoples rights. Europe is planning to sign a trade deal with Thailand and a few days ago congratulated Thailand on its general election. The fact that it was blatantly rigged is ignored. 4 2
klauskunkel Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 2 hours ago, rooster59 said: “There is no question about Thailand’s democracy because it already exists,” Don said. Yup, there it is
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted August 4, 2019 Popular Post Posted August 4, 2019 Why would they discuss democracy at the meeting? They are the hosts, and yet one can point to a dozen ways they are suppressing the expression of democracy at home. Besides, there are few members of ASEAN that practice real democracy. Most are autocratic. Burma, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, the PI, Thailand and Brunei are great examples of that. 8 1
Popular Post Moo 2 Posted August 4, 2019 Popular Post Posted August 4, 2019 Thailand democracy refers as "I ALLOW YOU" to vote for me. 3
Popular Post Misterwhisper Posted August 4, 2019 Popular Post Posted August 4, 2019 4 hours ago, mok199 said: A nation lost,in its own ego.. I wouldn't necessarily say "a nation" but rather "a military and feudal class". 3
Krataiboy Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 No references to Thai democracy at Asean meeting Probably because there isn't any. 1 1
Srikcir Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 5 hours ago, rooster59 said: Pompeo said the US hoped to see Thailand move forward in the democratic direction If one is moving forward to a destination, one is NOT at that destination. Pompeo is not acknowledging that Thailand is a democracy. Thailand has taken some steps analogous to boarding a train that will move forward to the next station stop. But like Thai trains it has the potential to be derailed at any moment. Not that that matters to the Trump administration that treats undemocratic national leaders with equal honor to democratic national leaders such as NCPO Chief Prayut, President Xi, President Jung-On and President Putin. Case in point (October 2017): https://www.straitstimes.com/world/white-house-visit-a-boost-for-prayut-and-us-thai-ties 1
Reigntax Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 Bet there was no discussionn about the Thai education system also. Both exist in name but neither have any positive results. 1
sammieuk1 Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 No reference to the junta in suits I suppose it means as the US "hoped" to see Thailand move forward in the democratic direction that has dogged this country for decades.????
Chrisswe Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 6 hours ago, Cadbury said: That's because there is no democracy. The country is still controlled by the ex junta leader and his junta cronies plus a few turncoats from other Parties. At these ASEAN type meetings diplomacy pushes all that under the carpet. 100% military diktatorship !!!!!! 1
Brigand Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 Quote No references to Thai democracy at Asean meeting: Don No point referencing something that doesn't exist. 2
Thailand Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 Maybe Pompeo thought he was in Taiwan, quite confusing you know!
Bundooman Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Srikcir said: If one is moving forward to a destination, one is NOT at that destination. Pompeo is not acknowledging that Thailand is a democracy. Thailand has taken some steps analogous to boarding a train that will move forward to the next station stop. But like Thai trains it has the potential to be derailed at any moment. Not that that matters to the Trump administration that treats undemocratic national leaders with equal honor to democratic national leaders such as NCPO Chief Prayut, President Xi, President Jung-On and President Putin. Case in point (October 2017): https://www.straitstimes.com/world/white-house-visit-a-boost-for-prayut-and-us-thai-ties The look on a certain person's averted face, possibly speaks volumes towards her owner and her idea of democracy......
Artisi Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 12 hours ago, PatOngo said: ...and insatiable greed! And stupidity! 2
manhood Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 Where is the democracy??? The elections been manipulated and interfeared by the army for sure. Still no free press, still no freedom of sperch as the government still have problems to face critics. And i agree that critics is based on fundamental and proofable facts. But the government had to agree and accept that inestigation is able to do to fined out about the "truth"...i worked for western tv broadcaster and how facts and investigation of journalists make me feel sick, angry but more sad!
baboon Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 48 minutes ago, manhood said: Where is the democracy??? The elections been manipulated and interfeared by the army for sure. Still no free press, still no freedom of sperch as the government still have problems to face critics. And i agree that critics is based on fundamental and proofable facts. But the government had to agree and accept that inestigation is able to do to fined out about the "truth"...i worked for western tv broadcaster and how facts and investigation of journalists make me feel sick, angry but more sad! Thai political slime wining and dining with political slime from other countries. Human rights? Democracy? My backside. We are all of us being used in a political chess game just as Orwell predicted. 1 1
Isaanbiker Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 “There is no question about Thailand’s democracy because it already exists,” Don said. I fail to see where.
Isaanbiker Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 7 hours ago, Chrisswe said: 100% military diktatorship !!!!!! You're in Lieland, it's 250 % dictatorship! 1
nong38 Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 My bet is the military are still backing the Government, the difference is that here they are backing the Government to get some new toys. In more advanced societies the military back the Government with no thought about being the Government.
baboon Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, nong38 said: My bet is the military are still backing the Government, the difference is that here they are backing the Government to get some new toys. In more advanced societies the military back the Government with no thought about being the Government. But don't you see? Not only have the junta got away with it, they are being fêted by our great and good, just as long as there is a profit to be made. Any 'We are now a democracy' bullcrap will do. Our "more advanced societies" are chomping at the bit to sell this 'Democracy' their hardware. What they do with it is Their Business. Our 'Advanced societies' are nothing of the sort. Like Thailand, we trade weapons, conflict and human misery just for profit.
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