Transport minister orders use of rubber barrier instead of road island

[mosan]

6 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

He has lots to learn on the correct terminology. It is call Guard-rails. What an embarrassment for the Transport Minister not knowing the correct term. 

It is not he who should be embarrassed.  He's talking about road dividers and road islands...look it up, you can make dividers and islands out of (hard) rubber--just like in parking lots (car parks) where rubber can be used instead of concrete to make bumpers to stop cars from mounting curbs and walk-ways.  

[Eric Loh]

4 minutes ago, mosan said:

It is not he who should be embarrassed.  He's talking about road dividers and road islands...look it up, you can make dividers and islands out of (hard) rubber--just like in parking lots (car parks) where rubber can be used instead of concrete to make bumpers to stop cars from mounting curbs and walk-ways.  

What you described sound like the definition of Guard-rails. 

 

“a strong fence at the side of a road or in the middle of an expressway, intended to reduce the risk of serious accidents”. 

[Burma Bill]

I've heard of "bouncy castles" but this really takes the biscuit. How about rubber electricity poles?

[tifino]

Thee righteous Minister needs to firstly clarify wheteher there's any his/family interests in the latex industry!!

 

 

still; rubber sounds a little bit safet than following Australia's trend in using motorcyclist beheading wire rope barriers!!

 

 

[Srikcir]

9 hours ago, Chang_paarp said:

I hope they pay the local price rather than the global price for rubber.

The government will guarantee Bt60/Kg for Grade 3 raw rubber sheets (RSS3 grade). According to the Rubber Authority of Thailand's website, the price of raw rubber sheets was around Bt37-.9-Bt39.20 per kilogram while the latex price was Bt39.20 per kilogram.

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30374806

The government rubber pledge program will be paying more than the international price. Thailand's domestic price for rubber is just another form of a subsidy and unlikely to have any impact on the global market price per se. The government's subsidy is basically a directed and limited welfare plan for rubber farm owners and possibly split with rubber tappers. That's why Prayut's political opposition say that such populist programs are not sustainable.  

[Srikcir]

5 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

global market price

Here's a long-term perspective of global price for RSS3 grade rubber sheets

https://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=rubber&months=180&currency=thb

 

[FarFlungFalang]

7 hours ago, worgeordie said:

Rubber barriers.....does that mean drunk drivers will be able to

bounce their way back home.

 

What urgently needs  doing and will save a lot of lives,is to

get rid of those two way u-turns, you cannot see whats coming

when there are cars,trucks,also turning on the other side,if they

must have U-turns do single U-turn left,with U-turn right further

along the road.....but that's too easy a solution to be considered.

regards worgeordie

Or at redesign so the U-turn can be completed before merging into traffic flow.

[Nowisee]

Most of the newer road construction guardrails I've seen here they are using the Jersey barrier.  
What they need to do away with is those concrete 8" poles that they use on curves.  Hit one of those at 120 and guaranteed to cause death and destruction. 

Rubber will dry rot in short time and like most everything else here, it will not be updated or replaced.  I see those red/orange water filled berries are empty and brittle.  

[SmartyMarty]

Boing!!!!

 

[FarFlungFalang]

15 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

The government's subsidy is basically a directed and limited welfare plan for rubber farm owners and possibly split with rubber tappers. That's why Prayut's political opposition say that such populist programs are not sustainable.  

If the use of the rubber was show to reduce road fatalities and injuries it should be viable.

[FarFlungFalang]

58 minutes ago, Burma Bill said:

I've heard of "bouncy castles" but this really takes the biscuit. How about rubber electricity poles?

That's a brilliant idea and should be patented and supplied on a global scale. 

[canopy]

1 hour ago, sawadee1947 said:

Hmmh, I think honestly you shouldn't drive a car or bike anymore. 

Thank you for your concern, but it is you who clearly isn't ready for even a tricycle. Please improve your understanding of driving before you get on the road. Thailand has enough dangerous drivers already.

 

 

 

[sawadee1947]

53 minutes ago, canopy said:

Thank you for your concern, but it is you who clearly isn't ready for even a tricycle. Please improve your understanding of driving before you get on the road. Thailand has enough dangerous drivers already.

 

 

 

Oh oh somebody is going to be upset though it was no offending meaning in it. 

It's just that you have these improvements to come since centuries in EU. 

So I presume you live your whole life in this wonderful colorful and exciting country? 

Take the train in future. So you will avoid this phantastic new rubber stuff. 

[Almer]

A much better way to increase the use of rubber would be to enforce a 2 mm tyre depth and bring of great help on a wet road, or am i being stupid again with my wild west thoughts

[nong38]

Sounds like a pintable to me, will cause more accidents than it prevents, do try and think ahead!

[Mak25]

So he instructed to built a 2km tunnel on this Buriram highway to make these 2 U-turn spots more secure.

Great idea! 

[overherebc]

9 hours ago, Fred white said:

A median strip

That sounds like something new and kinky in Nana Plaza. ????

[Reigntax]

Another clown who has no idea what he is talking about and should not be in any position where he can make decisions. Let alone announcements.

 

The whole idea of concrete is that they have mass to avoid unacceptable movement if impacted by a vehicle and stop vehicles crashing into oncoming traffic.

 

The Thai government is the hub of brainless dead heads with stupid ideas and this has to be on par with Prayuths idea to use drones to spray molasses to reduce pollution.

[djayz]

12 hours ago, colinneil said:

Pity the parents of some of those running this place didnt use a rubber barrier many years ago.

Excellent!!  ????????????????????????

[Fex Bluse]

7 hours ago, Geoffggi said:

I really do hope you are joking, if it is Steel, Plastic or Rubber if the structure has to support the impact of a vehicle hitting it at 120KPH then one will be just as dead..!!

Not joking. Those barriers help to prevent head on collisions from traffic crossing into opposing lanes. 

 

All I'm saying is a barrier is better than the islands. Not sure what the guy meant about rubber, though. Maybe rubber could work if it's affixed to steel or concrete... But not rubber alone certainly. 

Edited August 19, 2019 by Fex Bluse

[mmushr00m]

Rubber barriers able to withstand a 120km impact from a vehicle will be as stiff and hard as concrete. Given the tropical heat and humidity, the rubber will degrade and will need to be replaced in a few years....which we know will never happen.

Proper planning of the road in regards to traffic flow and hazards will be more effective. Case in point "U-turns located at corners" as mentioned in the article. Proper planning will save more lives!

 

Have to admit it happens where I am too. Someone had the bright idea to use big rubber barrels filled with water or sand around medians and bridge supports. Problem is in winter they freeze solid and it's the same as hitting concrete.

Edited August 19, 2019 by mmushr00m

[Dave67]

Add 2 flippers and its Pin Ball

[Justgrazing]

18 hours ago, webfact said:

Transport Minister Saksayam Chidchob has ordered the highway and rural roads departments to install rubber barriers instead of building road islands while building future new roads.

 

Saksayam said the rubber barriers must be built to sustain the impact of vehicles running at the speed of 120 kilometres per hour.

 

Top gear Stig was hired to do the high speed crash test .. 

 

[zoza]

 

back in the uk on holiday and after five mins of reading this, and the forums response

and I am crying laughing right from start to finish, cannot see to reply maybe some rubber 

glass's can be built that might help. you do forget what it is like out there.

 

[hotchilli]

On 8/19/2019 at 9:01 AM, Dmaxdan said:

Rubber barriers? I just get this picture in my head of Thailand's roads becoming a huge pinball machine.

It already is... but this would be more entertaining.