Opponents of 'no-deal' Brexit defeat PM Johnson, who promises an election

[vogie]

A spokesperson from Philip Hammonds constituency Runnymede and Weybridge has said Hammond will not represent the Conservative party in a general election.

[Bruntoid]

2 hours ago, vogie said:

The Chief Economist from Deutche Bank disagrees with you, but I guess you know best.

 

 

Wow you found one ????????????????????????????????

 

But relying on those pesky Europeans to bail you out ? Wide eyed Mr Wetherspoon no longer good enough ?

[Bruntoid]

25 minutes ago, Forethat said:

A bit surprised that 21 Tory MPs voted against the government. Political suicide, yes, but I guess they realised that.

What is more surprising is that 9 out of the 21 voted against their own constituency. I guess Margot James won't exactly get the homecoming she'd have hoped for. To be perfectly honest, I wouldn't be surprised if she's egged every time she walks the streets of Stourbridge. I actually expect her house to be egged. I'd be sad if her entire family was egged (on a daily basis), but with that level of political treason I guess everything can be expected. 

 

Here is the list of Tory traitor MPs and the result of the Brexit referendum in their constituency:

 

 

Sir Oliver Letwin 51.04 – 48.96

Rory Stewart 55.2 – 44.88

Sir Nicholas Soames (Winston Churchill’s grandson) 58.41 – 41.59

Alistair Burt 53.44 – 46.56

Sam Gyimah 54.2 – 45.8

Guto Bebb 52.2 – 47.8

Richard Harrington 50.3 – 49.7

Margot James 64.7 – 35.3

Antionette Sandbach 52.17 – 47.83

Are these figures from back in 2016 but largely irrelevant today ? (Shall I trot out the never ending anti no deal surveys taken since here ?)

 

Some say traitors others say conscientious parliamentarians!(Depending on your hysteria levels) 

 

Even 49% of LEAVE voters don’t want a No deal exit 

 

There is no longer a majority for Leave, Boris Johnson doesn’t actually have a mandate anymore, get over it. 

 

PS - Kenneth Clarke could stand for the Monster Raving Loony Party and get in because he’s respected as a constituency MP - same as must others you have listed - suicide ? Just more hysteria based on wishful thinking 

Edited September 4, 2019 by Bruntoid

[7by7]

5 hours ago, evadgib said:

The non existing deal?

 There is a proposed deal still on the table; May's deal.

 

The EU have said they are prepared to discuss proposals to amend that deal; but so far Johnson and his boss Cummings have not made any.

 

The EU have said that they are prepared to accept reasonable changes to that deal; provided the amended deal is accepted to the UK Parliament.

 

Tell us, how can the EU discuss, let alone accept, proposals which have yet to be made?

[Basil B]

14 hours ago, Thailand said:

The new curtains in number 10 coming down again.

 

Who was the pm with the shortest term?

George Cummings... 1827 (119 days).

 

Wonder if he and the other Cummings are related?

Edited September 4, 2019 by Basil B

[Bruntoid]

3 hours ago, JamesBlond said:

Blinkered and short-sighted. I wonder what 'man on the street' you are talking about? Presumably an immigrant as only they could benefit from the bleeding heart-leftist-inclusivist social policies that have been quietly herding them in. Personally I don't even want to go back to Britain even for a visit - it's no longer Britain - I don't know what it is, some kind of cultural experiment gone badly wrong. And it's not just Britain, look at the mess that Europe has made of itself ? Now the far right are on the rise - quite predictably - as a result. The whole mad experiment needs to be stopped.

You can have your precious trade deals when all that is over.

Careful Tommy - that mask is slipping ????

[elliss]

1 hour ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

 

 

 

 

        Should read ,   Vote to Live , Remain in the EU..

 

 

Edited September 4, 2019 by elliss

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, DannyCarlton said:

Krugman's thoughts on the EU mirror mine and many other remainers.  No one wanted the Euro and we didn't get it. Same with the Shengen agreement. Same with Thatcher's hard fought for rebate.. Same with taking a percentage of Merkel's 2m refugees. There are many examples of us kicking back against the EU and UK winning the day.

 

Slaves to the EU oligarchs? Never have been, never will be. All a Brexiteer fantasy/ Cummings lie. We're Brits for crying out loud, we should be staying and fighting to retain our rightful place near the top of the largest trading block in the world. Not running and hiding like a scolded dog, hiding in a corner until we starve and die.

 

Remainers, the true Brits, are fighting back, unlike the spineless Brexiteer surrender monkeys. Bunch of limp wristed toffs.

 

"Once more unto the breach my friends

I see you stand like greyhounds in the slips,

Straining upon the start. The game's afoot:

Follow your spirit, and upon this charge

Cry 'God for Harry, England, and Saint George!'

Come on lads, time to put some cold steel into those spineless, Eton Toff Brexiteers. They're on their knees, let's finish'em off!

We have awoken and the lion roars!

 

 

 

Slaves to the EU oligarchs? Never have been, never will be.........

You are already and it would get worse...but you can't see past your nose. 

 

 

[7by7]

5 hours ago, JonnyF said:

5 hours ago, bristolboy said:

You're counting on the fact that there will be a rebel motion.

Which there won't be, because Remainers know that if put to the public the Tories will smash them.

Pure conjecture.

 

5 hours ago, JonnyF said:

So these cowards will continue obstructing the process from the seats that they won based upon a false premise, continue to go against the manifestos on which they were elected and against article 50 which they themselves enacted, to delay Brexit and avoid the "peoples vote" that they were pretending they wanted.

As they are risking their careers by defying Cummings Johnson, then calling them cowards is a bit of a misnomer!

 

They are not trying to stop Brexit; simply stop a disastrous no deal Brexit.

 

Yes, some of them do want a people's vote in the form of a second, final, binding referendum; it is Cummings Johnson and his supporters who don't want that any more than they really want a GE.

 

 

[Bruntoid]

Just now, Basil B said:

George Cummings... 1827.

 

Wonder if he and the other Cummings are related?

Lol - if I’m honest I feel a smidgeon of sympathy for poor ol Boris, based on his tenure as foreign secretary he was always going to be miles out of his depth as PM, now proven beyond doubt, but the second most pleasing thing about last night, after rescuing the U.K. from the brink of course, is that the odious unelected swivel eyed scruff Dominic Cummings has got it so spectacularly wrong whilst being absolutely convinced he had it sussed !! 

 

I predict his days in ‘consultancy’ are numbered.

 

This pleases me immensely ????

[Basil B]

53 minutes ago, Forethat said:

A bit surprised that 21 Tory MPs voted against the government. Political suicide, yes, but I guess they realised that.

What is more surprising is that 9 out of the 21 voted against their own constituency. I guess Margot James won't exactly get the homecoming she'd have hoped for. To be perfectly honest, I wouldn't be surprised if she's egged every time she walks the streets of Stourbridge. I actually expect her house to be egged. I'd be sad if her entire family was egged (on a daily basis), but with that level of political treason I guess everything can be expected. 

 

Here is the list of Tory traitor MPs and the result of the Brexit referendum in their constituency:

 

 

Sir Oliver Letwin 51.04 – 48.96

Rory Stewart 55.2 – 44.88

Sir Nicholas Soames (Winston Churchill’s grandson) 58.41 – 41.59

Alistair Burt 53.44 – 46.56

Sam Gyimah 54.2 – 45.8

Guto Bebb 52.2 – 47.8

Richard Harrington 50.3 – 49.7

Margot James 64.7 – 35.3

Antionette Sandbach 52.17 – 47.83

So out of 22 MP's who quit the Tory Party by choice or default yesterday you could only find 8 eight who's constituency voted leave, and only one with a clear majority greater than 60%... 

 

What is clear at this rate the Tory Party may have fewer MP's than Labour by the end of the week.

 

(sorry 9)

Edited September 4, 2019 by Basil B

[Bruntoid]

2 hours ago, oldhippy said:

Corbyn better than no-deal Brexit, say investment banks as anti-capitalist Labour wins unlikely new City fans

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/09/03/corbyn-better-no-deal-brexit-say-investment-banks-anti-capitalist/

 

So Vogie, this settles it:

No deal brexit and Corbyn takes over - I think we can agree at last!

 

Wow if that doesn’t bring it home to leavers there’s really no hope ! 

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, DannyCarlton said:

Usual complete nonsense from a surrender monkey Brexiteer.

The rebate wasn't given back, we're still benefiting from it today. One of the beefs that our haters (the French) still have against us.

 

The late 80's had nothing to do with the EU, the City YUPPIEs had inflated a bubble, sanctioned by Thatcher, as she engineered their rise as part of her master plan to destroy British manufacturing and create a service economy. The bubble predictably burst, leaving Thatcher with egg on her face.

 

Now back in your corner and await your fate.

Nonsense from a surrender monkey Brexiteer? What are you? An inverted Farage?

 

In 2005, Blair gave back 20% of the rebate that Thatcher secured. The French might hate us but they always got a lot more money returned than the UK did, mostly via the CAP.

 

[Rookiescot]

Wow, anyone not behind the extreme fundamentalist Brexit ideology is now a traitor?

 

Good grief guys. Have a word with yourselves. They do not want Brexit because they believe it will harm the UK for many years to come.

 

They are the true patriots. The ones who actually care about the UK and the people. 

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

A hard core of intransigent racists got the Leave over the line. Though most leavers are honest,hardworking good citizens some with understandable concerns on mass immigration. Cumming very cleverly and subtly played on those fears of people left behind and feeling under siege in their lives and then used social media to propagate and amplify these opinions. And then offering simplistic, nationalistic sound bite solutions straight out of the Bannon/Trump playbook. Without Cummings and 'racism' Leave would never have won. 

More cobblers.

[Pique Dard]

boris speaks eloquently, that doesn't help, though! the sooner he realizes brexit or no brexit-deal is a crazy idea, the better for him and the uk

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Sorry vogie I know you have a policy of never feeding me but your Brexiteer heroes could have done better at the start had they had a plan and a direction of travel. Which of course they never had. Don't blame remainers you and your vote got us into this mess. Oh and the Guardian whatever your views isn't the piece of toilet paper that the Express is which seems to be the most quoted rag on the Leave side. 

 

Is this photo from the Express?

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

I roughly agree with most of what you are saying. But this Brexit is tory driven , hedge fund funded to benefit a small disruptor elite. The working class concerns are being exploited to these ends. Can't you see that. Look up at who got us into this mess and blame them not across at your hapless other neighbour who are just trying to make the best of the hand they have been dealt.  

Cobblers continued......

[7by7]

24 minutes ago, vogie said:

A spokesperson from Philip Hammonds constituency Runnymede and Weybridge has said Hammond will not represent the Conservative party in a general election.

 

This quote from their Facebook page on their website 

Quote

Runnymede and Weybridge Conservatives

on Monday

The Association is pleased to announce the reselection of Philip Hammond. Philip has been an excellent MP for Runnymede and Weybridge since 1997, and has retained the overwhelming support of residents, members and the Association Executive throughout that time.

Despite the focus of national politics, our meeting tonight was not about Brexit or the next two months, but about the selection of our candidate for the next Parliamentary election; and tonight’s vote reflects the confidence members of the Association Executive have in him as our local MP, based on his hard work and commitment to Runnymede and Weybridge over 22 years

shows that they were happy for him to continue to represent them; despite his well known stance on Brexit and opposition to Cummings' Johnson's no deal threat.

 

But, as this quote

Quote

Runnymede and Weybridge Conservatives

about an hour ago

Last night Philip Hammond had the Conservative Whip removed by the Chief Whip.

This means that he is no longer a Conservative MP and will not be eligible to stand as the Conservative candidate for Runnymede and Weybridge.

A new Conservative candidate will be selected by the membership in due course.

shows, the reason why he wont be standing as their candidate in the next election is because he isn't a Conservative MP anymore!

 

Should he have the whip restored, I'm sure they will select him as their candidate again.

[nauseus]

31 minutes ago, Bruntoid said:

Are these figures from back in 2016 but largely irrelevant today ? (Shall I trot out the never ending anti no deal surveys taken since here ?)

 

Some say traitors others say conscientious parliamentarians!(Depending on your hysteria levels) 

 

Even 49% of LEAVE voters don’t want a No deal exit 

 

There is no longer a majority for Leave, Boris Johnson doesn’t actually have a mandate anymore, get over it. 

 

PS - Kenneth Clarke could stand for the Monster Raving Loony Party and get in because he’s respected as a constituency MP - same as must others you have listed - suicide ? Just more hysteria based on wishful thinking 

Statements with no evidence as usual.

[DannyCarlton]

26 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Slaves to the EU oligarchs? Never have been, never will be.........

You are already and it would get worse...but you can't see past your nose. 

 

 

No, you couldn't see past the dung you were fed by Cummings and co.

[Bruntoid]

2 hours ago, kingdong said:

if in doubht or confused just play the race card.

Go back in this thread for clear evidence - no ‘card’ is being played! 

 

To deny racism was a central plank of the leave vote is a tad silly IMO

[stevenl]

11 minutes ago, nauseus said:

More cobblers.

 

9 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Is this photo from the Express?

 

8 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Cobblers continued......

 

4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Statements with no evidence as usual.

Again very eloquent posts, very much on topic and well argumented.

[nauseus]

1 minute ago, DannyCarlton said:

No, you couldn't see past the dung you were fed by Cummings and co.

I tend to step around cow doo if it's there - didn't even smell any - more to your taste probably.

[Rookiescot]

You know what. I am sick and tired of trying to prevent England and Westminster from performing this act of self harm.

Go ahead. 

I will be writing to my SNP MP to demand he allows no deal to go ahead.

I feel sorry for the people who voted remain but its NOT Scotlands job to stop a nation from committing economic suicide. 

 

Good luck guys. You are going to need it..

[nauseus]

Just now, stevenl said:

 

 

 

Again very eloquent posts, very much on topic and well argumented.

They just address the points directly. 

[Bruntoid]

5 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Statements with no evidence as usual.

Eh ? What evidence would you like Sir ?

 

There’s enough out there - though if I provided it, it would be from bias providers correct ? 

[DannyCarlton]

Just now, nauseus said:

I tend to step around cow doo if it's there - didn't even smell any - more to your taste probably.

You're a Brexiteer. You're up to your neck in it. It's even spewing out of your mouth! 555

[stevenl]

2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

They just address the points directly. 

Cobblers.

[Bruntoid]

15 minutes ago, nauseus said:

More cobblers.

Inspired thought provoking response - you seem to have cornered the market for question dodging one line responses ????????????????????????