UK lawmakers reject PM Johnson's request for early election

[webfact]

UK lawmakers reject PM Johnson's request for early election

 

Britain's Prime Minister Boris Johnson speaks during Prime Minister's Questions session in the House of Commons in London, Britain September 4, 2019. ©UK Parliament/Jessica Taylor/Handout via REUTERS

 

LONDON (Reuters) - British Prime Minister Boris Johnson failed on Wednesday to win the approval of enough lawmakers to go ahead with his plan to hold an early election.

 

He needed to win the backing of at least 434 lawmakers, but only 298 voted in favour of an election while 56 voted against. The opposition Labour Party instructed its lawmakers to abstain on the vote.

 

(Reporting by William James, Writing by Kylie MacLellan, editing by Elizabeth Piper)

 

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-09-05

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[Thailand]

Oh dear, the almighty tumbling not just fallen. 

[Topdoc]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

The opposition Labour Party instructed its lawmakers to abstain on the vote.

Corbyn shows his true colours. He's been shouting for more than 2 years for a GE and now, when he gets the chance, he runs away like a coward.

[pegman]

Crafty Corbyn  did a magnificent job in putting Boris in a tiny little corner. The UK  owes him a great deal of gratitude in stopping a no deal  disaster. 

[Somtamnication]

LOL. What are they afraid of?

[stevenl]

33 minutes ago, Somtamnication said:

LOL. What are they afraid of?

Yes, should have done a second and clear referendum long time ago already. What are they afraid of?

[luckyluke]

Every politician, worldwide, will always undertake everything possible to achieve his proper agenda. 

 

This include lying, redo according to the circumstances, being prejudiced. 

 

Claiming that some politicians are different is naïve or biased. 

[alien365]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The opposition Labour Party instructed its lawmakers to abstain on the vote.

Is this the democracy in parliament that I hear people keep talking about? 

[vogie]

2 hours ago, pegman said:

Crafty Corbyn  did a magnificent job in putting Boris in a tiny little corner. The UK  owes him a great deal of gratitude in stopping a no deal  disaster. 

Oh don't worry, he will not be forgotten for a long time.

[evadgib]

I've just sat through 2hrs of various UK news inc ITV's 'Peston' where there wasn't a single Brexiter to be found, other than BJ himself on the latter. 

Do MSM seriously believe the general public cannot see through their complicit agenda?

A petition surfaced elsewhere this morning calling for Bercow to be sacked. 

(yeah I know but I signed it anyway).

[edwinchester]

3 hours ago, Topdoc said:

Corbyn shows his true colours. He's been shouting for more than 2 years for a GE and now, when he gets the chance, he runs away like a coward.

Not a coward at all. He's stated all along he does not want to leave the EU without a deal. If he agrees an election in a few weeks the Tories can force through a no deal on Oct 31st so first he's gained support for not leaving without a deal. Once that is in place bring on the election. It's coming sooner rather than later anyway now that BJ has nowhere near a Commons majority.

[JamesBlond]

This whole debacle is due to the pusillanimity of modern Britain, in which sensitivity is reinforced by positive discrimination, landing bleeding-heart leftists in every position of power. The country has been castrated by social engineering, which is partly the EU's agenda. So we are to believe that we are locked in? That we can't get out of the EU even when we want to? That in itself is reason to get out, but it takes struggle, and too many MPs have got nothing in their pants nowadays.

 

Look, when did the EEC (which was fine) morph into the monolithic all-invasive sinister bureaucratic state that is the EU? Does anyone know how that came about? The EU gave itself powers according to its own covert agenda to homogenise Europe and then one day we find we are trapped in this dystopian multicultural superstate where everyone is locked in by trade deals. That is totally unacceptable.

 

Strap on a pair and let's get out of this.

[elliss]

4 hours ago, Topdoc said:

Corbyn shows his true colours. He's been shouting for more than 2 years for a GE and now, when he gets the chance, he runs away like a coward.

      Corby has put Boris into the pot , to let him simmer very slowly , 

       until he is well and truly cooked, or words to that effect.

        Knives , are being sharpened ...

 

 

Edited September 5, 2019 by elliss

[Bluespunk]

4 hours ago, Topdoc said:

Corbyn shows his true colours. He's been shouting for more than 2 years for a GE and now, when he gets the chance, he runs away like a coward.

Get the lords to waive through the bill blocking a no deal and he'll get his election.

[JonnyF]

13 minutes ago, edwinchester said:

Not a coward at all. He's stated all along he does not want to leave the EU without a deal. If he agrees an election in a few weeks the Tories can force through a no deal on Oct 31st so first he's gained support for not leaving without a deal. Once that is in place bring on the election. It's coming sooner rather than later anyway now that BJ has nowhere near a Commons majority.

He is the epitome of a coward. He's actually a Eurosceptic but he lacks the courage of his convictions to lead the party according to his own long held beliefs, instead allowing himself to be bullied by the likes of Europhile Keir Starmer.

 

He doesn't even have the courage or the ability to demand his party (the opposition!!) vote for an election. Yes that's right, the opposition do not want an election so that they might govern. Stranger than fiction. Why? Because the electorate would hammer them and rightly so. Remainers finally get the vote they say they wanted and they bottle it. 

 

Corbyn is a pathetic man in a pathetic parliament. You may dislike Johnson, but at least he has a pair, as the last couple of days has shown.

 

Block the Deal, Block No Deal, Block an Election. Stalemate. What an embarrassment to the country these MP's are. Brexit is inevitable and I am prepared to wait for it, but I feel sorry for people who will feel the economical effects of these Remainer games, keeping the country in limbo because they cannot accept the result of a democratic vote.

[JAG]

18 minutes ago, JamesBlond said:

This whole debacle is due to the pusillanimity of modern Britain, in which sensitivity is reinforced by positive discrimination, landing bleeding-heart leftists in every position of power. The country has been castrated by social engineering, which is partly the EU's agenda. So we are to believe that we are locked in? That we can't get out of the EU even when we want to? That in itself is reason to get out, but it takes struggle, and too many MPs have got nothing in their pants nowadays.

 

Look, when did the EEC (which was fine) morph into the monolithic all-invasive sinister bureaucratic state that is the EU? Does anyone know how that came about? The EU gave itself powers according to its own covert agenda to homogenise Europe and then one day we find we are trapped in this dystopian multicultural superstate where everyone is locked in by trade deals. That is totally unacceptable.

 

Strap on a pair and let's get out of this.

Have a look at "Common Purpose". A fascinating organisation, which has penetrated much of the establishment.

[JamesBlond]

38 minutes ago, JAG said:

Have a look at "Common Purpose". A fascinating organisation, which has penetrated much of the establishment.

Startling, if true. But while the EU is surely as corrupt as any organisation accountable only to itself (like FIFA) I believe its covert agenda is more sociological than criminal. It's about the 'vulnerable' class keeping themselves in their own comfort zone by suppressing any form of perceived threat (particularly 30s style fascism). This might have started out as laudable but it has become a kind of fascism of its own with conformity agendas forced down everyone's throats.

 

I remember the vote in the 70s to join the EEC. I don't think there was any subsequent vote to be part of the monster that is the EU, which is quite different type of organisation. Britain has been bounced into this whole EC thing.

[nauseus]

3 minutes ago, JamesBlond said:

Startling, if true. But while the EU is surely as corrupt as any organisation accountable only to itself (like FIFA) I believe its covert agenda is more sociological than criminal. It's about the 'vulnerable' class keeping themselves in their own comfort zone by suppressing any form of perceived threat (particularly 30s style fascism). This might have started out as laudable but it has become a kind of fascism of its own with conformity agendas forced down everyone's throats.

 

I remember the vote in the 70s to join the EEC. I don't think there was any subsequent vote to be part of the monster that is the EU, which is quite different type of organisation. Britain has been bounced into this whole EC thing.

There never was a vote to join - only a confirmatory referendum pushed out by Wilson, who wanted EEC membership formally approved by the people. After just 3 years, only a few groups were already anti EEC, especially the fishermen of course. 

 

In the UK, the EEC was widely sold as the 'Common Market' by most politicians. But the Treaty of Rome was already far more than that. Only a few astute minds recognised this at the time (e.g. Shaw, Powell).

 

The EU has the same essential project plan of the EEC but it is now expanded, with central control and power increased significantly by the Maastricht and Lisbon treaties, for which there were no referendums allowed in the UK.  

 

Remainers want a "people's vote" but look how many have been denied to the British people already!

[flossie35]

5 hours ago, Topdoc said:

Corbyn shows his true colours. He's been shouting for more than 2 years for a GE and now, when he gets the chance, he runs away like a coward.

Rubbish. There are good reasons for not agreeing to this, ie it might lead to no deal brexit. Corbyn does us all a favour by not agreeing.

[evadgib]

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Get the lords to waive through the bill blocking a no deal and he'll get his election.

Repealing the fixed term parliament act would place Boris back in the driving seat and would neuter the Hobbit.

Edited September 5, 2019 by evadgib

[elliss]

1 hour ago, flossie35 said:

Rubbish. There are good reasons for not agreeing to this, ie it might lead to no deal brexit. Corbyn does us all a favour by not agreeing.

     Correct.   however in the near future , when this brexit deal/no deal is sorted ,

     Keir Starmer, will  be heading for Labour party leadership.

      Corbyn has  just been a caretaker leader, doing nought. 

 May was appointed by DC,  Camerons revenge,  just to play the game waste time, and do nought..

 

     The next chapter will most interesting ,  Tory resignations expected ...

 

 

     

Edited September 5, 2019 by elliss

[Nigel Garvie]

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

He is the epitome of a coward. He's actually a Eurosceptic but he lacks the courage of his convictions to lead the party according to his own long held beliefs, instead allowing himself to be bullied by the likes of Europhile Keir Starmer.

 

Corbyn is a pathetic man in a pathetic parliament. You may dislike Johnson, but at least he has a pair, as the last couple of days has shown.

 

1) He is the leader of the Labour Party, not a dictator. He has had to recognize that the vast majority of both members and MPs are pro EU. That's called being realistic, nothing to do with courage. He has a small brain and is rather slow to get there, but he has said again and again that the LP is a democratic party, finally he has accepted his own words.

 

You may dislike Johnson, but at least he has a pair.............I guess you mean moobs.

 

 

Edited September 5, 2019 by Nigel Garvie

[Baerboxer]

7 hours ago, pegman said:

Crafty Corbyn  did a magnificent job in putting Boris in a tiny little corner. The UK  owes him a great deal of gratitude in stopping a no deal  disaster. 

 

Corbyn did <deleted> all! Johnson and his loony power mad adviser painted themselves into a corner by thinking they could outsmart parliamentary process. Just like May and her twerps did!

 

Corbyn has been demanding an election, and said very recently he was ready for one. The truth is he's <deleted>-scared because even in this mess the Tories are outpointing Labor in the polls and Johnson outpoints Corbyn personally in the polls for PM!

 

Even a thick skinned loony like Corbyn must feel somewhat worried when a jerk like Boris is massively more popular as a choice for PM!

[JamesBlond]

12 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

The post would be improved though if it had the slightest relationship with reality.

 

It's okay, I'll give you time to think about how and why Europe is in the state it is in today.

 

I suppose you don't believe that certain newspapers or news channels are either left-wing or right-wing either - because the mere suspicion of that would in your book amount to 'conspiracy theory'.

[Baerboxer]

2 hours ago, flossie35 said:

Rubbish. There are good reasons for not agreeing to this, ie it might lead to no deal brexit. Corbyn does us all a favour by not agreeing.

 

Corbyn was against any deal, suggestion or option put forward by the Tories. His own "deal vision" was of an even closer EU relation - where even more control remained with the EU. He's prize pillock!

 

His main agenda was to bring down the government and force an election. Now it's finally dawned on him he'd likely loose.

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, evadgib said:

Repealing the fixed term parliament act would place Boris back in the driving seat and would neuter the Hobbit.

 

And how would he get that through? Threaten to sack people?

[Nigel Garvie]

3 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Of course all this really has been crafted by Marta Sturgeon to destroy the UK so Scotland can rise like a phoenix from the ashes. She cunningly engineered the EU into thinking the SNP are really EU federal socialists and not national socialists and seduced Jucker when she visited the EU commission. She plans a new Scottish led empire which will crush Donald Maximus and link up with Vlad who she hope will impale her and Xi before she turns on them and invades them. 

 

Well, it's as plausible has the poster your replied to's suggestion!

 

 

My god, I though we had managed to keep this plan a secret, how on earth did you find out!

[evadgib]

29 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

And how would he get that through? Threaten to sack people?

By winning the vote (like he did last night) but without needing the two thirds majority which tripped him up.

[Bluespunk]

2 hours ago, evadgib said:

Repealing the fixed term parliament act would place Boris back in the driving seat and would neuter the Hobbit.

He'll need what he doesn't have to do that...a majority in parliament.

[johnnybangkok]

4 hours ago, JamesBlond said:

This whole debacle is due to the pusillanimity of modern Britain, in which sensitivity is reinforced by positive discrimination, landing bleeding-heart leftists in every position of power. The country has been castrated by social engineering, which is partly the EU's agenda. So we are to believe that we are locked in? That we can't get out of the EU even when we want to? That in itself is reason to get out, but it takes struggle, and too many MPs have got nothing in their pants nowadays.

 

Look, when did the EEC (which was fine) morph into the monolithic all-invasive sinister bureaucratic state that is the EU? Does anyone know how that came about? The EU gave itself powers according to its own covert agenda to homogenise Europe and then one day we find we are trapped in this dystopian multicultural superstate where everyone is locked in by trade deals. That is totally unacceptable.

 

Strap on a pair and let's get out of this.

Your faux intellectualism isn't negated by throwing in a couple of big words.

Social engineering? How so? Through equality and solid labour laws (many of which were initiated by the EU) the UK offers a fair playing ground to anyone that has the gumption to take advantage. I was one, coming from a very working class background to eventually own my own business. This was due in part to a great free education, an opportunity to move ahead in my career and being judged on ability. There was no social engineering other than upward mobility.

And I suppose you have a problem with positive discrimination, as it shows up the certain type of discrimination you have been getting away with for years.

Stop blaming everyone else for your own self-inflicted problems. And please stop trying to make it sound that your some sort of high-brow intellectual. You're not.