Refused Entry

[Sujo]

Well they got me with a rule I didnt know.

 

walked in from malaysia to Dannok to spend 3 days. Imm officer said I cannot come and took me to supervisor.

 

Reason given is that Australians are only allowed entry 2 times in 1 year. This is my 3rd visit. Go back to malaysia.

 

my previous visit was from 1 april to 4 april in dannok. Then 29 june to 2 july in bangkok. I did ask if this was a new rule but she just told me to wait outside. Then told to leave.

 

Attached is the form she gave me refusing entry. No idea what it says.

[steve187]

only 2 land border crossing a year, have you made any other entries , in 2019

[Tanoshi]

You were denied entry under section 12.1

Section 12 : Aliens which fall into any of the following categories are excluded from entering into the Kingdom :
1. Having no genuine and valid passport or document used in lieu of passport ; or having a
genuine and valid passport or document used in lieu of a passport without Visaing by the Royal Thai Embassies or Consulates in Foreign countries ; or from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs , excepting if a visa is not required for certain types of aliens in special instances.
Visaing and visa exemption will be under the learn and conditions as provided in the Ministerial Regulations.

 

Basically only 2 land border crossing per year allowed, not specific to Australians.

[sillyfool]

and another one

[Tayaout]

You can only get 2 visas free entry via land border per calendar year. Get a visa or try via the airport. 

[Sujo]

15 minutes ago, steve187 said:

only 2 land border crossing a year, have you made any other entries , in 2019

No those were the only 2. She never said land border. Only said entry. I only did 1 land border xing before.

[Sujo]

5 minutes ago, Tayaout said:

You can only get 2 visas free entry via land border per calendar year. Get a visa or try via the airport. 

I wasnt aware of that. Tq.

 

But wont bother with getting visa or returning. Kind of put me off the whole thing.

[Sujo]

1 minute ago, Sujo said:

No those were the only 2. She never said land border. Only said entry. I only did 1 land border xing before.

Let me re check my pp later to confirm. Going to drown my sorrows for the nite. ????

[sanemax]

Two land border crossings per year , plus unlimited airport entries per year ( at the IO's discretion).

   Have you done two land border crossings already this calander year ?

[tifino]

sad how the times have changed... years'n'years ago;  we used to do the drive up from Penang, to Hatyai, every second weekend  

[StayinThailand2much]

As an "alien" you should have used a flying saucer or airplane for your third border-crossing this year.

 

The 'two land-border crossings per calendar-year rule' has been in effect since the beginning of 2017.

[Sujo]

6 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Two land border crossings per year , plus unlimited airport entries per year ( at the IO's discretion).

   Have you done two land border crossings already this calander year ?

I did 1 on april 1st. Will check later in my pp and get back to u. Having a cold ale now. 

[sillyfool]

10 minutes ago, tifino said:

sad how the times have changed... years'n'years ago;  we used to do the drive up from Penang, to Hatyai, every second weekend  

i used to ride my scooter from hat yai to sadao or padang besar. walk across the border. turn around and come back. for almost 3 years i was never even asked a question. stamp stamp see ya. now i am on my high horse with a multi non o marriage visa. 

[William Osborne]

I was stopped in poipet couple years ago with the 2 entries limit.....i had my truck parked on other side and my mrs waiting ...with the keys in my pocket...

Supv said i could come back if i had onward ticket in 2 weeks....had to go back into Cambodia (with no visa as i was stamped out and in no mans land)....lucky found a MC taxi who spoke english and took me to internet cafe to get ticket....pretty stressful experience ????

[Abananaed]

sound like you are living in malaysia in which case you have forgotten the magic words "open sesame" should do it for entry.

[Thaifriends]

Next time take a flight when your land border 2 crossings complete in next year.

[Sujo]

59 minutes ago, Abananaed said:

sound like you are living in malaysia in which case you have forgotten the magic words "open sesame" should do it for entry.

Correct i live in malaysia. I should have used the bar girls in malaysia agent. They use an agent and pay rm300 at dannok to come and go every month. None of this 2 entry nonsense.

 

I can understand it if living in thailand only allowing 2 xings. But i live and work in malaysia. What is the point of denying entry to visit and spend a few baht every now and then.

 

It is what it is. My malaysian friends cross every couple of weeks for fun. No issue. But now i cannot.

 

Its ok. Moving on. Will go elsewhere.

[steve187]

51 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Correct i live in malaysia. I should have used the bar girls in malaysia agent. They use an agent and pay rm300 at dannok to come and go every month. None of this 2 entry nonsense.

 

I can understand it if living in thailand only allowing 2 xings. But i live and work in malaysia. What is the point of denying entry to visit and spend a few baht every now and then.

 

It is what it is. My malaysian friends cross every couple of weeks for fun. No issue. But now i cannot.

 

Its ok. Moving on. Will go elsewhere.

Malaysian passport holders are exempt for the 2 x's rule -

'' The only exception to the new regulation will be Malaysian passport holders traveling from Malaysia, as they will continue to receive the 30-day Unlimited Visa Exemption stamps.''

 

taken from - https://www.thaiembassy.com/thailand/new-visa-rules.php

[jphasia]

Two land border crossings per year , plus unlimited airport entries per year ( at the IO's discretion).
   Have you done two land border crossings already this calander year ?

Is that "Two land border crossings per year" rule specific for visa exempt or tourist visa only or for any type of visa (Non O Multiple...)?

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[sanemax]

12 hours ago, jphasia said:

Is that "Two land border crossings per year" rule specific for visa exempt or tourist visa only or for any type of visa (Non O Multiple...)?

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Two land border crossings to obtain Visa Exempt Stamps  , doesnt effect other visas

[baboon]

16 minutes ago, jphasia said:

Is that "Two land border crossings per year" rule specific for visa exempt or tourist visa only or for any type of visa (Non O Multiple...)?

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No. But expect hostility if leaving and or entering on a multiple entry visa via southern checkpoints.

[david555]

2 hours ago, tifino said:

sad how the times have changed... years'n'years ago;  we used to do the drive up from Penang, to Hatyai, every second weekend  

It seems it  is something like that they don't like whiteout a visa and put a stop on it .

[Sujo]

35 minutes ago, steve187 said:

Malaysian passport holders are exempt for the 2 x's rule -

'' The only exception to the new regulation will be Malaysian passport holders traveling from Malaysia, as they will continue to receive the 30-day Unlimited Visa Exemption stamps.''

 

taken from - https://www.thaiembassy.com/thailand/new-visa-rules.php

Understand. But the girls are pinay and vietnam. No issue with paying agent. 

 

But thank u for info. I just didnt know the 2x rule ????

[ukrules]

3 hours ago, Tanoshi said:

Basically only 2 land border crossing per year allowed, not specific to Australians.

It's a BS made up rule that's not enshrined in law.

 

Why do they do this kind of thing?

[EricTh]

Yes, max 2 land border crossings per year.

 

Max 6 months in a year for the total of land and air crossing even for tourist visas.. I think.

 

If not, anybody can fly in 12 times per year from neighbouring countries with a tourist visa.

 

There are many refusals reported lately in Thaivisa forum

[gk10002000]

3 hours ago, EricTh said:

Yes, max 2 land border crossings per year.

 

Max 6 months in a year for the total of land and air crossing even for tourist visas.. I think.

 

If not, anybody can fly in 12 times per year from neighbouring countries with a tourist visa.

 

There are many refusals reported lately in Thaivisa forum

This is almost as inane as about ten years ago they changed the visa exempt for land crossings to be 15 days instead of 30 days!  Then they made a ruling that G7 country citizens could then now get 30 days again.  Then a few years ago they popped up the two land border crossings in a year.  So there are now several in and out "limitations" hard and soft coded.  Number of visa exempts in a year about 6 I think or  6 months total visa time in one year.  Ad hoc rulings on how much of that visa usage carries over into the next calendar year or just one year time interval total. 

[Soneva]

8 hours ago, Tayaout said:

You can only get 2 visas free entry via land border per calendar year. Get a visa or try via the airport. 

 

Is this indeed per calendar year, as opposed to a rolling twelve month period?

 

If that is the case, I might as well be using my entries toward the end of each calendar year.  Ordinarily I refrain from using them, to preserve that option as a plan B if I ever failed to get a visa as planned.

[Tayaout]

1 hour ago, Soneva said:

 

Is this indeed per calendar year, as opposed to a rolling twelve month period?

 

If that is the case, I might as well be using my entries toward the end of each calendar year.  Ordinarily I refrain from using them, to preserve that option as a plan B if I ever failed to get a visa as planned.

Yes it is calendar year. Before I got my long term visa I did one entry for 3 consecutives months: November, December and January. 

 

To clarify what was said in this thread there is no 180 days limit. This was scraped years ago.

 

There is no limit of entry per year via any airport but the computer system gives an alert after 6 to warn the immigration officer to use more scrutiny. It seems if you do a lot of short stays then there is no issues. If you have a long history of stay, use the max duration of each entry stamp, do extension, had ED or many consecutive tourist visa, and/or do border run then you probably won't reach 6 consecutives entry before being denied. 

 

There is plenty of updated information on this page: https://www.thaivisaservice.com/

[jphasia]

No. But expect hostility if leaving and or entering on a multiple entry visa via southern checkpoints.

Yes but I guess if you are on Non O Multiple and going out of Thailand by land only every 90 days (visa run), you might face some issues at some checkpoints.
I am on Non O Multiple and been through Ranong border already 4 times this year. No issues at all but it was very clear that the purpose of my exits was not "visa run" but pleasure.

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[jacko45k]

9 hours ago, jphasia said:

Is that "Two land border crossings per year" rule specific for visa exempt or tourist visa only or for any type of visa (Non O Multiple...)?

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Exempt, ie without a Visa  or Re-Entry Permit.