jesimps Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 In my opinion there are three ways to drastically cut down the road deaths here and improve the standards: 1) Strong deterrents. 2) Strict enforcement. 3) Willingness to accept advice from countries who have proven road safety record. However, these are meaningless whilst corruption is rampant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 No amount of media releases by political morons playing at clowns will do anything to lower the roll toll. You need only take a look at these three dunces to realise the futility of the government in trying to reduce the road toll. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, jesimps said: In my opinion there are three ways to drastically cut down the road deaths here and improve the standards: 1) Strong deterrents. 2) Strict enforcement. 3) Willingness to accept advice from countries who have proven road safety record. However, these are meaningless whilst corruption is rampant. I don't think it has anything to do with corruption, it is to do with the "don't give a sh_t attitude", and the attitude goes for most stuff here.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 It will not improve until the national arrogance is fixed. From a place of humility, the country will then need to start reforming the entire system. Driving Autos Roads Signage Lighting Laws Policing Consistent enforcement and penalties It's all a total disaster and will take 30+ years to fix - whenever they actually start 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Pravda said: Will the sun raise tomorrow morning? Hope not , wishing for a cloudy day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkgriz Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I think we found the sucker. Anyone up for a game of cards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WhatupThailand Posted October 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, Fex Bluse said: It will not improve until the national arrogance is fixed. From a place of humility, the country will then need to start reforming the entire system. Driving Autos Roads Signage Lighting Laws Policing Consistent enforcement and penalties It's all a total disaster and will take 30+ years to fix - whenever they actually start Close but not the correct reason. Remember ALL Thais are Perfect, otherwise lose of Face. So if you are Perfect in all your ways, You can never make mistakes, or learn from them. Therefore, ALL Thais are Perfect Drivers, and will never admit otherwise. Lose of Face is the Foundation for All that is Wrong in Thailand. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 50 minutes ago, Is this real said: Thailand could hire people, full time, to learn what laws there are for drivers. Then they could enforce them. People would eventually learn a safer way to drive. No, they won't. When they're walking on the sidewalk, they're very carefull not to bump in to other pedestrians. But, when they get in/on their vehicles, their minds change drastically. Mental disorder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Chazar said: nah they just squeal like pigs that theyre poor. waste of time. Really..................Sort of... "Oink, oink"...........Hmmm, never heard that, is that how your extended family sound over cash lay out....? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 The lack of political will; the lack of a trained, mobile, traffic enforcement branch; the lack of a public traffic education program; rampant corruption and distrust of proven, foreign based accident reduction programs all spell that the carnage will contnue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Chazar said: rubbish, as usual their heads are buried in their phones and often bump into me. ...and what are your eyes focused on, if you can't avoid them? Edited October 27, 2019 by Vacuum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 58 minutes ago, transam said: I don't think it has anything to do with corruption, it is to do with the "don't give a sh_t attitude", and the attitude goes for most stuff here.. Corruption, in its many forms, corrupts universally. To give a "sh_t", that behavior is often tied to consequence of actions. When you can pay someone (authorities) to get out of consequence, then the attitude is to do what one likes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Vacuum said: No, they won't. When they're walking on the sidewalk, they're very carefull not to bump in to other pedestrians. But, when they get in/on their vehicles, their minds change drastically. Mental disorder. I agree with your 2 sentences. However, in some ways, they drive just like they walk - discombobulated, dawdling, suddenly and inexplicably changing direction, walking too close to each other, ect. One of my friends says they walk like ants, constantly almost bumping into each other and being forced to change direction. Extremely inefficient, like so many other habits. The only saving grace is that they do not walk aggressively - probably because it's simply too hot. Edited October 27, 2019 by Fex Bluse 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted October 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Benmart said: Corruption, in its many forms, corrupts universally. To give a "sh_t", that behavior is often tied to consequence of actions. When you can pay someone (authorities) to get out of consequence, then the attitude is to do what one likes. Where is the corruption when parents give underage kids the keys to a bike to go to school...? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRoadrunner Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) Thai driving lesson number one:- Engage brain before engaging gear..... Nah, forget it, about as much chance as me becoming the next Pope. Edited October 27, 2019 by DaRoadrunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jing jing Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Captain 776 said: I rode all over the world for 49 yrs and 14 of those were here in Thailand without a scratch until Oct 2018. Hung up my helmet = Done~!!! Dont become a statistic. That's interesting. Would you mind describing the incident that happened in Oct 2018 that caused you to hang it up? Just curious, because my riding history closely parallels yours except for the last part. And my 45 years of riding has included some broken bones, bumps and bruises, all my own fault for not properly reading the road conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinn Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Nearly 1.25 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,287 deaths a day. An additional 20-50 million are injured or disabled. More than half of all road traffic deaths occur among young adults ages 15-44. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Yinn said: Nearly 1.25 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,287 deaths a day. An additional 20-50 million are injured or disabled. More than half of all road traffic deaths occur among young adults ages 15-44. Yes but who has the..... Most per day Edited October 27, 2019 by meechai 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Chazar said: i don't care let them die. I highly suspect this is the thought process of the 1-10% that control the country. It is that upper slice of society that can/could change the driving habits of the masses. If most all those deaths are from the population that doesn't particularly count, then why fix something that isn't really broken. Could be that it is only a problem if affects the Hiso? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinn Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, meechai said: Yes but who has the..... Most per day India Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Yinn said: India They trade 1st place with Thailand often (use to be Libya too) Suffice it to say neither is a safe place to be on the roads Edited October 27, 2019 by meechai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinn Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, meechai said: They trade 1st place with Thailand often (use to be Libya too) Suffice it to say neither is a safe place to be on the roads No. China is second. USA, Russia, Brazil, all more than Thailand. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piewarmer Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Thailand roads are less scary according to friends who travel a lot in S.E.A., not statistically but how they feel walking, riding and driving, 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Odysseus123 Posted October 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2019 24 minutes ago, Yinn said: No. China is second. USA, Russia, Brazil, all more than Thailand. Take a pull on yourself.Stop denying the obvious.Stop boring the planet with your obvious 'what aboutism" Try being a 'developing nation' instead of a 3rd world one. The stepdaughter lost a close friend last week-alcohol,speed and stupidity. Get a grip on yourselves instead of indulging in the one and only form of Thai stupidity-"It's everyone else" Or let the slaughter continue.. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Yinn said: Nearly 1.25 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,287 deaths a day. An additional 20-50 million are injured or disabled. More than half of all road traffic deaths occur among young adults ages 15-44. Which choice did you vote for? 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Assurancetourix Posted October 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2019 Who are the 2 people who click on " No, it will start to improve. " I guess one of them is Yinn but who is the other? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterphuket Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 In my opinion it will be worser, because all the people who driving motorbikes, especially young people, will drive soon cars. And with the education about driving a car, it will go worser. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 how in the hell can it get better when the police do not enforce the road rules as well as not being out on the roads pulling over drivers breaking the rules. Its absolutely pathetic the way many thais drive/ride, many dont have a licence, are under age and most have no idea what the road rules are. The arrogance of some drivers just makes it harder, overtaking on blind corners/double lines or with oncoming cars and they flash their lights expecting the cars to drive off the road for them, parking on the road because they dont want to walk too far to the shop, not giving way, driving through stop signs and red lights and the police just watch it happen. Driving/riding in Thailand is very dangerous, dont think I have ever had a drive where I havent had some idiot do something stupid/illegal and almost cause a crash if not for my reflexes. It will only get better when they enforce the laws and start seizing cars/bikes from the offenders as well as making them pay big fines 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 33 minutes ago, Yinn said: No. China is second. USA, Russia, Brazil, all more than Thailand. How many people in USA ? 329,8 million people Russia ? 146.3 million people Brazil ? 214,6 million people and Thailand ? 69,6 million people You compare apples to pears; on the other hand, if you take a country which has about the same number of inhabitants as Thailand, France ( 66,99 million people ) will obtain a result somewhat different Thailand ,about 26,000 dead on the road .( here they don't count the people who die in the ambulance and in the hospital during 30 days after the accident ) France 4 100 dead on the road and in the ambulance and in the hospital during the 30 days after the accident In addition, road traffic is much more important in France than in Thailand; without even the same measure 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterphuket Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 5 hours ago, Assurancetourix said: Good morning all, I replied: Yes, it will continue to get worse ..... Until the government understands that this is a very serious social problem. 75% to 80% of fatal accidents involve motorcycles on which the workers of today and tomorrow drive. Senior managers and executives generally ride in sedan which are involved in only a small percentage of fatal accidents. As long as Thailand does not create a real road police and as long as school boys and girls will continue to learn songs and make knots and not much else at school, this country will continue to sink slowly but surely like its capital besides which sinks inexorably in the sea. You forget to mention 2 thinks they learn: about Budha, and about the Royal family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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