Doi Inthanon National Park: no Thai price with pink ID card anymore

[Fex Bluse]

A couple posters here of questionable intelligence or agenda. 

 

If you don't care, how about then if prices for EVERY ITEM in Thailand were 600% more expensive for you?

 

And to those of you saying it's OK to charge foreigners more because Thais pay taxes, what about expats who pay taxes? Are they not then also "shareholders"? I have paid more taxes than an average 100 Thais would pay in a lifetime. 

 

The taxes argument is particularly silly since it's so obvious that 1) Thais pay very little taxes (which is a huge problem for the country) and 2) taxes that are paid are systematically misappropriated and stuffed into the trousers of Thai officials, rarely going to the improve the "attraction". 

 

Lots of idiotic arguments. 

[Orton Rd]

Never been in one of these parks that was worth paying anything for, charging 6x the Thai price is just an insulting anti foreigner rip off, just don't go.

[Lacessit]

  On 11/2/2019 at 12:26 AM, Fex Bluse said:

A couple posters here of questionable intelligence. 

 

If you don't care, how about then it prices for EVERY ITEM in Thailand were 600% more expensive for you?

 

And to those of you saying it's OK because Thais pay taxes, what about expats who pay taxes? Are they not then also shareholders? 

 

Lots of idiotic arguments. 

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At the risk of stating the obvious, if 600% was for everything, Thailand would not have a tourist industry or long-term stayers. If my auntie had balls, she'd be my uncle.

I just pick and choose, walk away if it doesn't look like good value.

[Fex Bluse]

  On 11/2/2019 at 12:30 AM, Lacessit said:

At the risk of stating the obvious, if 600% was for everything, Thailand would not have a tourist industry or long-term stayers. If my auntie had balls, she'd be my uncle.

I just pick and choose, walk away if it doesn't look like good value.

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Yes, I get it. It's a very selfish way of dealing with the world. 

 

Not caring because it doesn't impact you/me. 

 

" First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—

     Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

 

Eventually the Thais will come for each farang who thinks he is OK because a particular wrong doesn't impact him. It's only a matter of time. 

[MJKT2014]

  On 11/1/2019 at 9:18 PM, shy coconut said:

So instead of a nice day out, you rush home to report your indignation to a bunch

of strangers on the internet.....

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They got smart phones and mobile internet for that.

 

Besides I thought the status of a foreigner on the pink card was the same as that of illegal immigrant? Cannot have riff raff not paying their way now. I prefer not to be associated with illegals so avoid the pink cards and the dual pricers since before the advent of the social media.

[Peterw42]

I was back in Australia last Xmas with Thai wife. We went for a day out to Australia Zoo (Steve Irwin). I presented my local Australian license and got the local discount , my Thai wife paid the full price.

After that episode, Thai wife no longer lets me complain about any dual pricing.

[Peterw42]

  On 11/2/2019 at 12:37 AM, MJKT2014 said:

They got smart phones and mobile internet for that.

 

Besides I thought the status of a foreigner on the pink card was the same as that of illegal immigrant? Cannot have riff raff not paying their way now. I prefer not to be associated with illegals so avoid the pink cards and the dual pricers since before the advent of the social media.

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Do you realise that people with Permanent Resident status also get issued a Pink card, maybe you could look at a pink card as being associated with Permanent Residents.

[canthai55]

  On 11/2/2019 at 12:16 AM, sirineou said:

Nothing in this life is free

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Except advice - 'cause it ain't worth nothing 555

[soalbundy]

  On 11/1/2019 at 8:34 PM, Lacessit said:

That's why I walk away if I think the "premium" is too high, although I prefer to call it price gouging.

Permit me to doubt the vast majority of rural Thais fund national parks. How would they do that, when they don't have income tax?

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Land tax is quite high.

[Thian]

  On 11/2/2019 at 12:24 AM, dcnx said:

We were just in Yosemite two months ago. THAT is a national park. It costs $30 per vehicle. They didn’t care what color we were or where we came from, $30 for the entire car. There were 4 of us and it cost LESS to enter one of the worlds greatest parks than it does to enter Doi Inthanon. 

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We were at the Grossglockner park very high in the mountains in Austria this year, 36 euro for a car but if you see what they had to build for that high in the mountains it's sure worth the money.....

[Thian]

  On 11/2/2019 at 12:39 AM, Peterw42 said:

I was back in Australia last Xmas with Thai wife. We went for a day out to Australia Zoo (Steve Irwin). I presented my local Australian license and got the local discount , my Thai wife paid the full price.

After that episode, Thai wife no longer lets me complain about any dual pricing.

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Thanks for telling us, i won't go there for sure. in my country everybody pays the same.

[sirineou]

  On 11/2/2019 at 12:39 AM, Peterw42 said:

I was back in Australia last Xmas with Thai wife. We went for a day out to Australia Zoo (Steve Irwin). I presented my local Australian license and got the local discount , my Thai wife paid the full price.

After that episode, Thai wife no longer lets me complain about any dual pricing.

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In Florida , I show my FL drivers licence and I get the residents price , all else pay more. 

[Fex Bluse]

  On 11/2/2019 at 12:53 AM, sirineou said:

In Florida , I show my FL drivers licence and I get the residents price , all else pay more. 

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Do you and does the average FL resident systematically evade taxes? 

 

Do you and does the average FL government and park administration systematically misappropriate tax monies intended for the public benefit? 

[sirineou]

  On 11/2/2019 at 12:52 AM, Thian said:

Thanks for telling us, i won't go there for sure. in my country everybody pays the same.

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No discount for you,? Everybody gets overcharged?

[baansgr]

  On 11/1/2019 at 8:08 PM, sirineou said:

Instead of looking at it that you pay more, why don't you look at it that shareholders get a discount?

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When a foreigner with a WP paying tax pays 10 times that of a non tax paying Thai, your argument falls flat on its feet. I gave up years ago even bothering...when you visit with your three Thai citizen kids and they make you pay the foreign price its an insult....in fact its an insult anyway you look at it. Topic has been done to death and nothing will change....

[sirineou]

  On 11/2/2019 at 12:56 AM, Fex Bluse said:

Do you and does the average FL resident systematically evade taxes?

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No , we are stupid, old , slow a feeble, we usually  pay more than we have to.

 

  On 11/2/2019 at 12:56 AM, Fex Bluse said:

Do you and does the average FL government and park administration systematically misappropriate tax monies intended for the public benefit? 

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Our government officials are too busy counting votes and missing chads to misappropriated monies intended for the public benefit.

[baansgr]

  On 11/2/2019 at 12:39 AM, Peterw42 said:

I was back in Australia last Xmas with Thai wife. We went for a day out to Australia Zoo (Steve Irwin). I presented my local Australian license and got the local discount , my Thai wife paid the full price.

After that episode, Thai wife no longer lets me complain about any dual pricing.

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But Thai is a "local" discount....a fellow Aussie from a different area  would have to pay the full price...totally different scenario

[Thian]

  On 11/2/2019 at 12:57 AM, sirineou said:

No discount for you,? Everybody gets overcharged?

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For the Keukenhof everybody pays the same price.

[Assurancetourix]

What sterile discussions while with a little savvy there is no way to pay anything at all ...

Look at Google Maps and you'll understand what I just wrote ...

[ChakaKhan]

  On 11/2/2019 at 12:56 AM, Fex Bluse said:

Do you and does the average FL resident systematically evade taxes? 

 

Do you and does the average FL government and park administration systematically misappropriate tax monies intended for the public benefit? 

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Thats why Trump just moved to FL...the best tax evaders, the best...many are saying...................many

[sirineou]

  On 11/2/2019 at 1:13 AM, Thian said:

For the Keukenhof everybody pays the same price.

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That's terrible!!

By the way a good LSD trip will give you the same effect as above.

 

[Thian]

  On 11/2/2019 at 1:31 AM, sirineou said:

That's terrible!!

By the way a good LSD trip will give you the same effect as above.

 

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Asians love it: can you spot them?

 

 

[chuang]

  On 11/1/2019 at 7:26 PM, gomangosteen said:

Regional differences ... In 2013 the two national parks near us had signs up clearly stating 'Thai ID card' only for the lower price. 

For the ticket sellers, and remember it's not their decision, would have made their job easier. No foreigners waving driver licences (never understood that argument, it's a driver licence, nothing more) or work permits

We still go often to Namtok Phliu, 200 b (for me) is a bargain for all the place offers, great for our family day out.

Malaysia, Laos, Cambodia also have similar reduced prices for locals, we travel often and don't complain about their price structures.

 

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Love it...tourists like you are always warmly welcome in what every country you visit...

[Denim]

So many free places that it's not really necassary to pay anything at all. The places I have paid to enter were no better than the free places , just better known.

 

 

 

All free 

 

 

 

[Odysseus123]

  On 11/2/2019 at 12:39 AM, Peterw42 said:

I was back in Australia last Xmas with Thai wife. We went for a day out to Australia Zoo (Steve Irwin). I presented my local Australian license and got the local discount , my Thai wife paid the full price.

After that episode, Thai wife no longer lets me complain about any dual pricing.

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You would not have got the "local" discount if you were not a resident of the local area.

You would also have only a "State" license not an Australian one-and i doubt very much that the Zoo offers discounts to every driver in the state.-let alone to every citizen of Australia.

 

As ,according to you,Thailand does for its citizens.

 

Never mind-i always enjoy your mythical journeys to Australia and your inane beliefs that every Australian citizen somehow gets a discount in line with your chronic Stockholm syndronism as it applies to Thailand.

 

Here are the admission prices...

 

https://www.australiazoo.com.au/visit-us/admission-prices/

 

[The Deerhunter]

  On 11/1/2019 at 7:26 PM, gomangosteen said:

Regional differences ... In 2013 the two national parks near us had signs up clearly stating 'Thai ID card' only for the lower price. 

For the ticket sellers, and remember it's not their decision, would have made their job easier. No foreigners waving driver licences (never understood that argument, it's a driver licence, nothing more) or work permits

We still go often to Namtok Phliu, 200 b (for me) is a bargain for all the place offers, great for our family day out.

Malaysia, Laos, Cambodia also have similar reduced prices for locals, we travel often and don't complain about their price structures.

 

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Regional rules are the norm in LOS.  So are two week law changes; (then back to "as you were.")   This nonsense gets boring.

"Um .  Got boring for me.!!"

[Peterw42]

  On 11/2/2019 at 3:19 AM, Odysseus123 said:

You would not have got the "local" discount if you were not a resident of the local area.

You would also have only a "State" license not an Australian one-and i doubt very much that the Zoo offers discounts to every driver in the state.-let alone to every citizen of Australia.

 

As ,according to you,Thailand does for its citizens.

 

Never mind-i always enjoy your mythical journeys to Australia and your inane beliefs that every Australian citizen somehow gets a discount in line with your chronic Stockholm syndronism as it applies to Thailand.

 

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Not sure that I said any of that, I specifically said (twice) a local discount, i didnt mention a state based discount or a resident of Australia discount, nor did I mention "according to me" anything about Thais getting a discount.

[Odysseus123]

  On 11/2/2019 at 3:33 AM, Peterw42 said:

Not sure that I said any of that, I specifically said (twice) a local discount, i didnt mention a state based discount or a resident of Australia discount, nor did I mention "according to me" anything about Thais getting a discount.

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Well..don't you and sundry other Thai apologists who always post on these type of threads claim that every Thai citizen somehow gets a "discount" in LOS?

 

I noticed that this argument started to crop up about two years ago to deny the very obvious fact that every "alien" in Thailand,in fact,gets a surcharge.

 

So..the Steve Irwin Zoo is a privately run business-not a national park and appears to offer discounts only to pensioners.

 

There is no evidence to suggest that they are employing dual pricing-as you can see from the list.

[Fex Bluse]

  On 11/2/2019 at 3:46 AM, Odysseus123 said:

Well..don't you and sundry other Thai apologists who always post on these type of threads claim that every Thai citizen somehow gets a "discount" in LOS?

 

I noticed that this argument started to crop up about two years ago to deny the very obvious fact that every "alien" in Thailand,in fact,gets a surcharge.

 

So..the Steve Irwin Zoo is a privately run business-not a national park and appears to offer discounts only to pensioners.

 

There is no evidence to suggest that they are employing dual pricing-as you can see from the list.

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Agree. The "tax-funded local discount" argument is ever more dubious because we all know that other Asians who look Thai (like regional people's) also get in cheaper. 

 

It's not even a nationality charge as such. 

 

It is primarily a White tax.

[Lacessit]

  On 11/2/2019 at 12:35 AM, Fex Bluse said:

Yes, I get it. It's a very selfish way of dealing with the world. 

 

Not caring because it doesn't impact you/me. 

 

" First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—

     Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

 

Eventually the Thais will come for each farang who thinks he is OK because a particular wrong doesn't impact him. It's only a matter of time. 

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I am selfish because I choose how I spend my money? Who died and gifted you the ability to pass judgement on everyone?