Bartering

[dd1988]

I find I get qouted 30-50% more when buying things here (double). 

 

I have been here for 6 months and know the true value of most things now. I find when i get quoted double i get an urge to punch the guy in the face as i feel its basicay scamming.  

 

Wben i barter i used to be hesitant to offer to low so as to not insult but these thais are shameless.

 

I get really insulted when someo e knows im a "vet" here yet still tries double price.  

 

Is this just me?  I feel ljke I will just start walking away from these double pricers

[faraday]

It's you.

[faraday]

1 minute ago, dd1988 said:

lol bet you pay farang price too much

I'm considerably richer than you; so it doesn't matter.

[wgdanson]

19 hours ago, dd1988 said:

wow this forum is a painful experience...

Sorry dd, you will meet all kinds here, like me, a sarcastic old timer.

If someone asks you for a higher price, just tell them to <deleted>off and go somewhere else. 

[faraday]

Wonder who this lovely person is?

[Nakmuay887]

32 minutes ago, dd1988 said:

I find when i get quoted double i get an urge to punch the guy in the face as i feel its basicay scamming.  

 

Please do. Be sure to report back with the results 

[FritsSikkink]

30 minutes ago, dd1988 said:

lol bet you pay farang price too much

You are not a "vet", can't speak the language, which gives you a better price.

I hope you will hit somebody in the face so you will get a new experience and might even get some free education about some new Thai words.

[worgeordie]

I thought bartering was (an example) offering a dozen eggs for a piglet.

exchange of goods without money.

regards Worgeordie

 

[Rimmer]

Multiple troll, off topic posts and flames have been removed also replies

[PatOngo]

Take the same attitude as them, if you can screw them to a decent price, just do it, there is no shame in this country!

[Nakmuay887]

18 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

I thought bartering was (an example) offering a dozen eggs for a piglet.

exchange of goods without money.

regards Worgeordie

 

I'd take a piglet every day. Smarter than dogs! 

[robblok]

what has being a "vet" have to do with anything ? Its job just like any other one that can pay well too.

 

If you feel insulted just offer a low ball and see how they feel, but punching someone in the face over this (must be your military training) is a bit over the top.

 

I used to get rattled by being quoted higher prices, i just made sure i knew the right price and offered that. If i did not get it i walk. 

[Hockeyhound]

Just now, worgeordie said:

I thought bartering was (an example) offering a dozen eggs for a piglet.

exchange of goods without money.

regards Worgeordie

 

Guy googled everything he ever wrote and passed it off as his own.

 

Regards

 

[worgeordie]

28 minutes ago, Nakmuay887 said:

I'd take a piglet every day. Smarter than dogs! 

Also better eating.....Koreans may favour a dog.

regards worgeordie

[Nakmuay887]

39 minutes ago, robblok said:

If you feel insulted just offer a low ball and see how they feel, but punching someone in the face over this (must be your military training) is a bit over the top

All his military training will do absolutely squat if he punches a Thai man in the face at the market lol.

 

I leave the bartering to my girlfriend as she speaks the language and is Thai. 

 

I've found much worse double pricing in Laos than any parts of Thailand though truthfully 

[scorecard]

Get used to it, bartering / negotiating is standard practice in 90% of countries across the world.

 

Here's a question, would you consider it OK if the other party tried to punch you when you started the negotiation at a level 90% below a typical price for the product concerned?

[damascase]

3 hours ago, scorecard said:

Get used to it, bartering / negotiating is standard practice in 90% of countries across the world.

 

Here's a question, would you consider it OK if the other party tried to punch you when you started the negotiation at a level 90% below a typical price for the product concerned?

Again, it is not ‘bartering’ but ‘bargaining’........ 

[Benmart]

19 hours ago, wgdanson said:

Sorry dd, you will meet all kinds here, like me, a sarcastic old timer.

If someone asks you for a higher price, just tell them to <deleted> off and go somewhere else. 

If you do indeed "tell them to <deleted> off", I am fortunate not to know you. I get more discounts, reductions, freebies and happiness by excercising being nice, not only to Thais, but to others as well. 

Edited December 19, 2019 by metisdead
Profanity removed.

[djayz]

To the OP, who seems to have disappeared, I too was annoyed at the beginning when quoted high prices at some of the markets. However, you should see it as "just doing business". The sellers, just like any business worlwide, wants to maximise their profits. The customer on the other hand, just like all customers worldwide, whats to get the best/lowest possible price. It's a negotiation. You haggle/bargain and try to meet somewhere in the middle. This practice goes on in every business and at much higher levels than you or I haggling at a street stall. I don't hear of CEOs punching people because they're frustrated though. 

After having lived here for 6 months, may I suggest that you relax and either haggle or, as a previous poster suggested, just walk away. It's nothing personal, but these guys ony eat what they sell. The more they make, the more they eat. Getting frustrated, angry or verbally abusive is only going to upset you and make you look like a fool. Chilax. There are numerous other shops and stalls selling the exact same stuff. Try one of them. 

Edited December 19, 2019 by djayz

[Aussieroaming]

Barter, don't batter, violence helps nobody.

 

Find reasonable vendors and become a regular customer. Even my wife doesn't always get the price she wants in a barter situation so if she really wants the goods she has to pay the asking price. If its too high she politely disengages and moves on. Quite often the price is set, no bartering involved.

 

Good luck and relax, they aren't always out to scam anyone, just trying to get the best price for their goods so don't take it personally.

[1FinickyOne]

They created Tesco and Big C just for you... 

[AhFarangJa]

I believe the correct metaphor would be haggling.

Either way I think you need to get out more and chill.

bar•ter

 (ˈbɑr tər) 
v.i.

1. to trade by exchange of commodities rather than by the use of money.

 

[1FinickyOne]

47 minutes ago, AhFarangJa said:

I believe the correct metaphor would be haggling.

Either way I think you need to get out more and chill.

bar•ter

 (ˈbɑr tər) 
v.i.

1. to trade by exchange of commodities rather than by the use of money.

 

maybe that was the problem... he was trying to barter while they were bargaining... anyone with legs can walk away if they don't like the price... [seller be- ware] 

[kwak250]

Well dd1988 funny thing is after you punch them in the face ironically they will all be saying dee dee dee when they jump up and down on your face.

[Letseng]

Look up the meaning of the word "to barter"?

[Fairynuff]

He knows the price he wants but the system dictates he has to try it on. You know what you’re prepared to pay and If you find common ground the deal is done.

For me, if the opening price is so far off the scale that’s it’s actually insulting then I don’t counter offer, I say nothing and walk away. 
I'm not sure 6 months of being here is anywhere near long enough to be fully clued up on pricing. Likelihood is that you just don’t always know when you’ve overpaid.

Ive had experiences where the attitude has been if I can’t rip you off as a foreigner then I’d rather not sell it. My solution was always send a Thai friend to buy it for you.

[wgdanson]

19 hours ago, Hockeyhound said:

Guy googled everything he ever wrote and passed it off as his own.

 

Regards

 

If you are a Newbie who joined less than a month ago, how do you know how much Worgeordie has posted previously? We don't need your regards thanks.

[Fairynuff]

Bartering, haggling, bargaining....we all know what is meant here so why not just get on with the discussion?

Reminds me of when someone talks about visa on arrival when they actually mean visa exempt. We all know what they mean but get a kick out of being pedantic because we think it makes us look clever

[Jaxxper]

Simple process....they know what to start at, they also know how cheap they will drop to. Your task is to find a level you’re happy with at a price they will sell at. If you can’t come to that junction just walk away. Find another vendor, wash and repeat. Simples.

[andygrr]

Yes I think he means Haggling not Bartering.