Why are more & more expats leaving Thailand?

[ICELANDMAN]

1 hour ago, Hans007 said:

It all depends Where you are in China!!! I was in Shenzhen recently and i found it very very very expensive!!! Mibd you...my gf is chinese....so i know what i am talking about.

 

Btw cudos about leaving Thailand. That country imho is way overrated. Not worth it....

 

Hans

I agree go away Thailand for go China is not a smart choice.

A claimed he lives in northern China so it should now be well frozen. ????

Edited January 1, 2020 by ICELANDMAN

[oldhippy]

2 years ago I went for a holiday to Europe.

 

The night after my arrival I had a medical problem that would most probably have killed me if I was still in Thailand, or at the very least would have ruined me financially if I survived it.

1 year ago my wife (Thai) had a similar problem during a holiday in Thailand - waiting list 6 months - or jump the queue for 7.000 euro (yes, euro, the extortionist knew she was married to a farang).

I haven't been back to Thailand.....

I miss my tropical garden in the jungle, maybe in a few years I will return to die there.

 

So for me it's the third world health system that prevents me from going back.

 

EDIT: Last night fireworks in Madeira were fantastic - went there in shorts and light shirt..... And did I mention Portuguese wine yet?

 

 

Edited January 1, 2020 by oldhippy
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[CGW]

46 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Whatever dude, slapping a dress on a pig wont make it a supermodel. I get it China is huge, Im talking Shanghai then.

Actually! your right, it is "primitive" in a strange way, they have everything - but nothing really "clicks" there no depth, nothing is established, too much non working newness! 

[sanemax]

As a leaver ,( recently left Thailand after a 9 year stint on tourist visas)

  1 . The visa situation , the constant changing of the rules renders you unsure of the future , you cannot plan anything in future beyond you current permit to enter date . Even when I did visa runs, I had to take everything important with me in preparation for being refused entry .

  Nervously trying to enter Thailand at a border concerned knowing I may have to spend a few days in IDC awaiting deportation .

  The hostility of the immigration staff , they begrudgingly stamp you in with a *You get away with being let in this time, we'll get you next time* kind of attitude .

  The cost : Daily living expenses are alot cheaper in the UK, if you buy food from supermarkets . Food is about four times chaper in the UK and also much better quality .

  Competitors compete to give customers the best quality and prices , rather than in Thailand where theres just one product and they charge as much as the like . 400 gof cheese and a jar of pickled onions less than 80 Baht in the UK, Thailand would be about 400 Baht for the same items .

  The air in the UK is breathable, arriving back in the UK was like when I was scuba diving and when you come up and can breath again, Thailand is like constantly underwater breathing through air tanks, struggling to breath .

  "Friendly Thai people" , generally they are not friendly at all, the only Thais who are friendly are those who want something from you or expect your custom in return for their friendship . 

[oldhippy]

5 minutes ago, sanemax said:

As a leaver ,( recently left Thailand after a 9 year stint on tourist visas)

  1 . The visa situation , the constant changing of the rules renders you unsure of the future , you cannot plan anything in future beyond you current permit to enter date . Even when I did visa runs, I had to take everything important with me in preparation for being refused entry .

  Nervously trying to enter Thailand at a border concerned knowing I may have to spend a few days in IDC awaiting deportation .

  The hostility of the immigration staff , they begrudgingly stamp you in with a *You get away with being let in this time, we'll get you next time* kind of attitude .

  The cost : Daily living expenses are alot cheaper in the UK, if you buy food from supermarkets . Food is about four times chaper in the UK and also much better quality .

  Competitors compete to give customers the best quality and prices , rather than in Thailand where theres just one product and they charge as much as the like . 400 gof cheese and a jar of pickled onions less than 80 Baht in the UK, Thailand would be about 400 Baht for the same items .

  The air in the UK is breathable, arriving back in the UK was like when I was scuba diving and when you come up and can breath again, Thailand is like constantly underwater breathing through air tanks, struggling to breath .

  "Friendly Thai people" , generally they are not friendly at all, the only Thais who are friendly are those who want something from you or expect your custom in return for their friendship . 

And after brexit it will only get better 555.

Cheddar and pickled onions in Thailand... OMG.

[madmen]

Its about the money , its always about he money. If you have it then Thailand is a breeze and zero visa dramas..........but unforyunatly we have to listen to essay style posts about they dont love us so I moved back in with me mum like sanemax recently did

[sanemax]

13 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

 

Cheddar and pickled onions in Thailand... OMG.

Rice and noodles three times a day gets gets awfully repetitive after a while and I do prefer to eat a variety of foods , rather than the same small selection everyday .

  Cheese and pickled onions was just an example  , s small example of the many cheaper and better foods available in the UK .

   That list would be endless

[sanemax]

24 minutes ago, madmen said:

Its about the money , its always about he money. If you have it then Thailand is a breeze and zero visa dramas..........but unforyunatly we have to listen to essay style posts about they dont love us so I moved back in with me mum like sanemax recently did

 

Yes, I did move back in with my Mum, whilst my tenants in my own house were preparing to move out .

  Now my tenants have moved out, I am now back in my own house, getting it painted and decorated for the next tenants .

  With all your riches and money , are you a landlord back home ?

Edited January 1, 2020 by sanemax

[DannyCarlton]

2 hours ago, RyanWalker said:

Mostly yes

Likely that as the US embassy no longer issues income affidavits they can't prove income. Majority of "I'm leaving Thailand" threads are started by Americans.

[RyanWalker]

1 hour ago, ICELANDMAN said:

I agree go away Thailand for go China is not a smart choice.

A claimed he lives in northern China so it should now be well frozen. ????

It's feozen mate, but with enough love, you can make it quite warm oit here????

[sanemax]

6 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Likely that as the US embassy no longer issues income affidavits they can't prove income. Majority of "I'm leaving Thailand" threads are started by Americans.

Although there are various reasons why people are leaving .

(BTW, I told you that she hinted that she would  be leaving, didnt I ? Last night after the POTY victory, she sated that she would be leaving for a while )

[from the home of CC]

11 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Likely that as the US embassy no longer issues income affidavits they can't prove income. Majority of "I'm leaving Thailand" threads are started by Americans.

not sure about that considering other embassies followed suit but nevertheless I agree about the affidavits, people were lying for many years about their funds and now they're bitter about being caught out..

[oldhippy]

9 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Yes, I did move back in with my Mum, whilst my tenants in my own house were preparing to move out .

  Now my tenants have moved out, I am now back in my own house, getting it pained and decorated for the next tenants .

  With all your riches and money , are you a landlord back home ?

QUOTE: With all your riches and money , are you a landlord back home ?

No, my lord.

 

QUOTE: As a leaver ,( recently left Thailand after a 9 year stint on tourist visas)

So you spent 9 years in Thailand, ILLEGALLY? And now you complain that Thai immigration does not love you?

What will be next? Complaining that the EU will not let you stay forever?

 

 

[RyanWalker]

11 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Likely that as the US embassy no longer issues income affidavits they can't prove income. Majority of "I'm leaving Thailand" threads are started by Americans.

I am English though and we also don't get the letters anymore. Another move to get is out

[DannyCarlton]

2 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Although there are various reasons why people are leaving .

(BTW, I told you that she hinted that she would  be leaving, didnt I ? Last night after the POTY victory, she sated that she would be leaving for a while )

One week. Get a grip. When you're in a hole stop digging.

[DannyCarlton]

Just now, RyanWalker said:

I am English though and we also don't get the letters anymore. Another move to get is out

That was a move by the British Embassy more than TI.

[from the home of CC]

1 minute ago, oldhippy said:

QUOTE: With all your riches and money , are you a landlord back home ?

No, my lord.

 

QUOTE: As a leaver ,( recently left Thailand after a 9 year stint on tourist visas)

So you spent 9 years in Thailand, ILLEGALLY? And now you complain that Thai immigration does not love you?

What will be next? Complaining that the EU will not let you stay forever?

 

 

personally I'd be ashamed to admit that lol..

[sanemax]

Just now, DannyCarlton said:

One week. Get a grip. When you're in a hole stop digging.

I dont think that she will be back TBH .

( Sending her a PM asking her to come back and post to prove me wrong would be cheating . )

[from the home of CC]

2 minutes ago, RyanWalker said:

I am English though and we also don't get the letters anymore. Another move to get is out

a move by your embassy to get you to leave? it was their decision, my embassy still does it..

[DannyCarlton]

Just now, sanemax said:

I dont think that she will be back TBH .

( Sending her a PM asking her to come back and post to prove me wrong would be cheating . )

Don't think, it never ends well for you. 555

[sanemax]

22 hours ago, oldhippy said:

QUOTE: As a leaver ,( recently left Thailand after a 9 year stint on tourist visas)

So you spent 9 years in Thailand, ILLEGALLY? And now you complain that Thai immigration does not love you?

What will be next? Complaining that the EU will not let you stay forever?

Nope, I was in Thailand legally .

Spent three years hoping over the border and living on 15 day visa exempts .

  Then had to go to Laos to get tourist visas and then fly to Vietnam and back to get airport Visa exempts , all completely legal .

  Thailand changed their visa laws and so I went home, not a problem 

[oldhippy]

41 minutes ago, madmen said:

Its about the money , its always about he money. If you have it then Thailand is a breeze and zero visa dramas..........but unforyunatly we have to listen to essay style posts about they dont love us so I moved back in with me mum like sanemax recently did

555 Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em

 

Just like Frank, Sanemax makes me nervous.

[RyanWalker]

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

As a leaver ,( recently left Thailand after a 9 year stint on tourist visas)

  1 . The visa situation , the constant changing of the rules renders you unsure of the future , you cannot plan anything in future beyond you current permit to enter date . Even when I did visa runs, I had to take everything important with me in preparation for being refused entry .

  Nervously trying to enter Thailand at a border concerned knowing I may have to spend a few days in IDC awaiting deportation .

  The hostility of the immigration staff , they begrudgingly stamp you in with a *You get away with being let in this time, we'll get you next time* kind of attitude .

  The cost : Daily living expenses are alot cheaper in the UK, if you buy food from supermarkets . Food is about four times chaper in the UK and also much better quality .

  Competitors compete to give customers the best quality and prices , rather than in Thailand where theres just one product and they charge as much as the like . 400 gof cheese and a jar of pickled onions less than 80 Baht in the UK, Thailand would be about 400 Baht for the same items .

  The air in the UK is breathable, arriving back in the UK was like when I was scuba diving and when you come up and can breath again, Thailand is like constantly underwater breathing through air tanks, struggling to breath .

  "Friendly Thai people" , generally they are not friendly at all, the only Thais who are friendly are those who want something from you or expect your custom in return for their friendship . 

Actually I agree with you mate. I spend a sh*tload of money at supermarkets on food. Now some people would say yeah but I biy expensive stuff or I don't need it.. So then what's the point of living in Thailand anyway? The UK is cheaper than Thailand. Oh and the visa cost. If I imagine what I could have done with 40 visa runs money.. ????

Edited January 1, 2020 by RyanWalker

[oldhippy]

2 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Nope, I was in Thailand legally .

Spent three years hoping over the border and living on 15 day visa exempts .

  Then had to go to Laos to get tourist visas and then fly to Vietnam and back to get airport Visa exempts , all completely legal .

  Thailand changed their visa laws and so I went home, not a problem 

Not a tourist.

But tourist visa.

[baansgr]

23 hours ago, madmen said:

Its about the money , its always about he money. If you have it then Thailand is a breeze and zero visa dramas..........but unforyunatly we have to listen to essay style posts about they dont love us so I moved back in with me mum like sanemax recently did

The people I know that have left all have money, some with two or three properties here that they have now sold...yet the guys with no money using an agent for extensions are still here on the same bar stool...if you have money and do your visa yourself it isn't a breeze and is numerous visits, in fact almost once a month....yet no money, use agent, its a breeze....you really need to understand this, tightening visa rules, TMs etc is driving away people WITH money

[amykat]

33 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Likely that as the US embassy no longer issues income affidavits they can't prove income. Majority of "I'm leaving Thailand" threads are started by Americans.

Since there are approximately 5 times more Americans in the world than Brits, if there are 5 times as many threads, for any one complaint, that would just make us equal on the face of it ...but you seem to keep wanting to point out something else??

[sanemax]

10 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Don't think, it never ends well for you. 555

You sounded so proud yesterday as well .

"Shes not leaving , I know her, I PM her, shes my friend , I PMed her , I just asked her, She told me, I Pmed her, she answered"

  You seemed so proud of yourself, PMing yinn and "knowing" that she wouldnt be leaving.......................then she left straight after the poll , as stated by myself .

[steven100]

hasn't this been hammered to death.  If you want to go .... just go ....  stop whinging and moaning.

don't forget to write   !!

[DaRoadrunner]

5 minutes ago, RyanWalker said:

The UK is cheaper than Thailand. 

The uk supermarket may be cheaper, the gasoline isn't. Then there is the council tax, none existent in Thailand. I could go on, but you get the idea already.

 

Overall, Thailand is still cheaper, so long as you don't want cheese and pickles.... but then we did not come here for this... did we?

[RyanWalker]

18 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

That was a move by the British Embassy more than TI.

Yeah but it's fishy mate. Suddenly.. Etc