webfact Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Tourist drowns: Call for lifeguards at popular "Full Moon Party" beach Calls have been made for lifeguards to be stationed at an internationally known Thai beach famous for its Full Moon parties. The call comes after what was believed to be a young German tourist drowned at Haad Rin Beach on Koh Phangan at the weekend. A witness told Thaivisa that an ambulance took 30 minutes to get to the scene and attempts to revive the young tourist were unsuccessful. The post claimed that every year tourists drown at this popular beach famous for its parties. It is time that lifeguards and medical equipment was provided by the authorities, the witness said. -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2020-01-09 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorG Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Not saying anything about this case but imagine a lifeguard trying to drag drunk/high guys out of the water. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post moonseeker Posted January 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2020 Never gonna happen. Just talk. Never seen a more amateur tourist management then in ????????. They could easily copy other countries achievements, but their cultural and personal attitudes do not allow for this. Pity. USED TO BEexotic and amazing... Check back in 20 years. MS> 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 along with the thais selling everything under the sun,tourist police watching undercover police maybe.just drunk and high farangs doing whatever they do in their state of mind.a life guard on the beach will do nothing to stop what happens.come morning they will be saying great party what happened.where is my ph and my money.when is the next one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 8 hours ago, moonseeker said: Never gonna happen. Just talk. Never seen a more amateur tourist management then in ????????. They could easily copy other countries achievements, but their cultural and personal attitudes do not allow for this. Pity. USED TO BEexotic and amazing... Check back in 20 years. MS> We could always implement US laws which prohibits alcohol on the beach. Careful what you wish for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanuman2547 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 It's surprising that with many western tourists on the beach that no one had any type of first responder training. Not saying that they needed EMT type of training but even basic first aid and CPR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 6 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: We could always implement US laws which prohibits alcohol on the beach. Careful what you wish for. If they don;t have lifeguards on the beach, what makes you think they will have policemen ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKr Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 if it is that bad, why do the local establishment owners not bump up the prices by 5 Baht (we care for you charge) and put a trained crew of life guards in place ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) All of the above suggestions have been tried multiple times there and have all come unstuck by the maggot of corruption......& it isn't helped by the typical 5k (Oct) to 50+k (Xmas & NY) crowds being expected to wade into the sea to have a <deleted> due to the complete lack of facilities there each month. I haven't been for a while but the few that were there weren't enough and were 'full to the gunwales' before the sun had even gone down! Edited January 10, 2020 by evadgib 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf99 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 The biggest cause of teenage deaths in Thailand is drowning (not motrobikes). The reason for this .....they can't swim and there is nothing in place to have them learn. I attended compulsory swimming classes when I was 10 years old at primary school in the U.K. My 2 kids could both swim before they went to primary school aged 5. So calls from westerners to have lifeguards on beaches is an utter waste of time. 15 years of being in Thailand I could count on the fingers of one hand seeing a Thai person that could actually swim. I lived in a condo with a huge pool and I think maybe saw 3 Thais that could swim well. I met 2 women that had previous farrang BF's and could swim. That was it. When I mean swim. I mean someone who can cut through the water for more than 100 mtrs at a steady pace freestyle using correct breathing. Not someone who double handed doggy paddles and puts their feet on the bottom every 5 mtrs. Jomtien beach has lifeguards dressed ike security guards with yellow bibs that spend all day looking at their phones. So you still reports of drowned tourists. This is not Australia, not Florida and not Hawaii and never ever will be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huberthammer Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 8 hours ago, lonewolf99 said: This is not Australia, not Florida and not Hawaii and never ever will be. and how happy and thankful we are for it not to be the same... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, lonewolf99 said: The biggest cause of teenage deaths in Thailand is drowning (not motrobikes). The reason for this .....they can't swim and there is nothing in place to have them learn. I attended compulsory swimming classes when I was 10 years old at primary school in the U.K. My 2 kids could both swim before they went to primary school aged 5. So calls from westerners to have lifeguards on beaches is an utter waste of time. 15 years of being in Thailand I could count on the fingers of one hand seeing a Thai person that could actually swim. I lived in a condo with a huge pool and I think maybe saw 3 Thais that could swim well. I met 2 women that had previous farrang BF's and could swim. That was it. When I mean swim. I mean someone who can cut through the water for more than 100 mtrs at a steady pace freestyle using correct breathing. Not someone who double handed doggy paddles and puts their feet on the bottom every 5 mtrs. Jomtien beach has lifeguards dressed ike security guards with yellow bibs that spend all day looking at their phones. So you still reports of drowned tourists. This is not Australia, not Florida and not Hawaii and never ever will be. - Actually it's Samui (Samui-KPG-KT, All 3 islands for which this board is pitched). - Quite a few Thai's living here can swim. - The deceased person in the OP was German. I note from a recent local FB post that swimming lessons will shortly commence at Oong Rak school courtesy of a 'Rotary' initiative, and the pool near Irish times/Tesco is always busy between 4 & 8 pm at a very modest monthly fee (THB 500 PPPM for unlimited use inc a towel). Edited January 11, 2020 by evadgib 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiHopper Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 <deleted>!!!? Why haven't they always had life guards? The parents should sue the heck out of the organisers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiHopper Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 5:46 PM, lonewolf99 said: So calls from westerners to have lifeguards on beaches is an utter waste of time. The entire island is chocka-block with farang diving instructors all trained in rescue and EFR. There's no excuse not to have people on standby, so I have to disagree with your post and refute it utterly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LomSak27 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 My God, the body count goes on. On 1/10/2020 at 1:10 PM, KKr said: if it is that bad, why do the local establishment owners not bump up the prices by 5 Baht (we care for you charge) and put a trained crew of life guards in place ? I would imagine that is 5 baht is too much, cuts into their profits. Like Phuket which cut their lifeguards because of needless expense. Who really cares if people die.?! And people wonder why tourism is tanking. No longer Teflon Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKr Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 12 hours ago, LomSak27 said: My God, the body count goes on. I would imagine that is 5 baht is too much, cuts into their profits. Like Phuket which cut their lifeguards because of needless expense. Who really cares if people die.?! And people wonder why tourism is tanking. No longer Teflon Thailand. how bumping up the prices by 5 Baht would cut into profits, I do not see. Myself, I do not care whether I pay 150 or 155 Baht for a beer. The issue would be that the bar owners may not transfer the extra revenue to the LifeGuard pool's account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huberthammer Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 1/12/2020 at 4:16 AM, ThaiHopper said: <deleted>!!!? Why haven't they always had life guards? The parents should sue the heck out of the organisers If you want to live such a sheltered life you should stay in your first world country. Some of us moved away from our own Nanny states because we understand and are willing to accept responsibility for our actions. last we need is guards, protection units and pages long disclaimers at every corner. "Sue the heck out of the organisers" - you very much sound like an American who has not seen anything of the world... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 On a crowded beach full of drunks at night who is going to notice someone in trouble in the water. Mid-afternoon in the Med' I pulled my BIL in when he got cramp and was actually going under. ( both in our 20's ) when we got to the beach both of coughed and puked up half the Med', it felt like it anyway. The only person who noticed anything was his wife. If someone goes under at night you most likely wont notice until it's too late. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 1/12/2020 at 4:16 AM, ThaiHopper said: <deleted>!!!? Why haven't they always had life guards? The parents should sue the heck out of the organisers You just be careful you don't spill your hot coffee on your leg in Thailand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 On 1/11/2020 at 9:49 AM, evadgib said: 15 years of being in Thailand I could count on the fingers of one hand seeing a Thai person that could actually swim. You can't have known many Thais very well in your 15 years, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Thais can't swim. What farang can't swim, I ask you? This is the Gulf of Thailand not Surf City. I'm sure alcohol was involved. Just have a Darwin award ceremony the morning after the FMP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 On 1/12/2020 at 6:41 AM, LomSak27 said: And people wonder why tourism is tanking. Yes, why do some people wonder that when tourism in Thailand is not "tanking"? More to the point, why do some people continue to post it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Just Weird said: You can't have known many Thais very well in your 15 years, then. I'm routinely around hundreds of Thai annually. The average Thai cannot swim. My tiny 41kg wife can swim circles around them, dive to 10m. But Thai cannot swim. They willingly wear vests off snorkel boats and even playing in water 1.5m deep. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Number 6 said: Thais can't swim. Why would you even post that nonsense? Many, many Thais can swim and the person in the OP wasn't Thai! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC 71 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I remember hearing that a partygoer fell asleep on an airbed. She ended up in Koh Samui ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Number 6 said: The average Thai cannot swim. But Thai cannot swim. Nonsense. You cannot make that generalisation and seriously expect it to be considered credible. Edited January 16, 2020 by Just Weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumballl Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Thai gov't should put sharks with lasers in the sea. That will hopefully deter drunkards from taking a dip in the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 One cannot change things in Thailand so no point in finger pointing !!!...but one can educate and warn tourists, provide of course they are willing to listen and learn..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrongsak Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 The water in the pic doesn't look especially placid. It's all to easy to get disoriented and in real trouble ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LomSak27 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 11 hours ago, Just Weird said: On 1/12/2020 at 6:41 AM, LomSak27 said: And people wonder why tourism is tanking. Yes, why do some people wonder that when tourism in Thailand is not "tanking"? More to the point, why do some people continue to post it? As news articles have been posted on the board, on that very subject. I consider it a current issue/problem facing Thailand. As such, why would I not post ? If you feel that people should not post or read about these issues. Perhaps you should contact Nation Multimedia Group, as they own Thaivisa, suggest that they limit any articles that cast a bad or negative light on Thailand. As always, our hopes and prayers are with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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