Nine illegal trash trucks caught using City Hall’s incinerator

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Nine illegal trash trucks caught using City Hall’s incinerator

 

 

 

Bangkok governor Aswin Kwanmuang led city officials and police to prevent nine garbage trucks from Samut Sakhon province illegally dumping trash at the Nong Khaem incinerator on Thursday.

 

The governor said that city officials had been quietly keeping a close watch on the activities of the trucks at the garbage disposal facility for about a week before the raid yesterday.

 

He said that the City’s auditors had become suspicious of an unusual increase in the costs of trash disposal amounting to about 100,000 baht a day at the incinerator, which normally burns about 3,500 tonnes of garbage daily.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/nine-illegal-trash-trucks-caught-using-city-halls-incinerator/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2020-01-18

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[unamazedloso]

So where they supposed to dump it? 

[thequietman]

1 hour ago, unamazedloso said:

So where they supposed to dump it? 

The side of the road? ????

[cardinalblue]

Doesn’t every province have a state of the art and properly regulated landfill?

 

what’s the fuss about?

[Assurancetourix]

4 hours ago, thequietman said:

The side of the road? ????

You just have to cycle along the ditches of all the main and secondary roads of Thailand to see it:
Thailand is an open-air bin

Which they certainly do in many provinces;
in any case what is done at Sawang Daen Din ( Sakon Nakhon province ) because the two incinerators have been down for many years

 

 

 

 

 

[Lemonltr]

5 hours ago, unamazedloso said:

So where they supposed to dump it? 

Dump it there, but pay for it above board. 

[thaipod]

There are trucks everywhere everyday dumping all over the provinces and don’t care who’s property it is. 

 

We we have a large building near our home that someone has realised it’s empty and now trucks are coming in at night. Got my worker to chain the main door to stop them. 

[grumpy 4680]

     If Thailand is to incinerate its rubbish, should they have proper industrial incinerator sites, and not submarines.

     If they did use their subs, they could dispose of it out of the torpedo tubes, then blame someone else for the sea pollution, Thai logic ????

Edited January 18, 2020 by grumpy 4680
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[Cake Monster]

If ! As in any civilized Country, there were adequate provisions made for the collection and safe disposal of all the trash ( not just in Bangkok, but Nation Wide ) there would be no issues.

Also the regulation and Policing of the Secondary recycle Industry would benefit Society greatly

A good friend of mine has a Primary Recycle Business, and pays 50K + Per Annum in Tax to the Government, yet 100 Meters down the road from his business is a Secondary recycle Business in a tin sheet yard that pays nothing, and they are continually polluting the area with waste and fires.

[JungleBiker]

Shouldn't the incinerators be generating electricity and then paying people to bring cheap fuel (i.e. waste/trash/garbage/rubbish)? They should be profit centres, not cost centres. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

The Bangkok Post version added this nice little detail not given in the ThaiPBS report:

 

The illegal dumping has been going on for five years and had cost the city about 40 million baht a year.

 

Well, it ONLY took the BMA FIVE YEARS to figure out they had been paying the costs of disposing of a different province's garbage!!!

 

[metisdead]

A spelling police troll post and the replies have been removed.  

[Sydebolle]

What a clown! All over Thailand, and I mean ALL OVER THAILAND, it is more than evident, that garbage is disposed wherever nobody is watching. 

Illegal use of incinerators, paid for by taxpayers? What nonsense. If this is not permitted, the dump trucks will decorate the surroundings of the incinerator location with the content of their lorries. 

[justin case]

when will thailand "invent"  recycling ?   2050 ?

[Redline]

Who wants to start a trash company?  I’m all in

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

20 hours ago, Redline said:

Who wants to start a trash company?  I’m all in

I believe, "garbage" is one of the professions reserved exclusively for Thais... After all, there's certainly enough of it here!!!!  

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

On 1/18/2020 at 10:10 PM, Sydebolle said:

Illegal use of incinerators, paid for by taxpayers? What nonsense. 

 

I THINK the issue in this case is/was, the incinerator at the BMA's OnNut area garbage transfer station may be operated by a private contractor that the BMA pays based on the volume of garbage they handle...

 

So, when garbage trucks from a different province (Samut Prakan) start arriving and dumping their garbage there at the OnNut facility, it's the BMA for BKK and not the Samut Prakan province that ends up footing the bill for it.

 

From the BMA's perspective, BKK has plenty enough garbage of its own to handle... They don't really need other adjoining provinces to be dumping their garbage on the BMA instead of handling it themselves as they're supposed to.

 

[Sydebolle]

On 1/20/2020 at 12:24 PM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I THINK the issue in this case is/was, the incinerator at the BMA's OnNut area garbage transfer station may be operated by a private contractor that the BMA pays based on the volume of garbage they handle...

 

So, when garbage trucks from a different province (Samut Prakan) start arriving and dumping their garbage there at the OnNut facility, it's the BMA for BKK and not the Samut Prakan province that ends up footing the bill for it.

 

From the BMA's perspective, BKK has plenty enough garbage of its own to handle... They don't really need other adjoining provinces to be dumping their garbage on the BMA instead of handling it themselves as they're supposed to.

 

Good point, thank you. So the governmental chiefs of Samut Prakarn cheat the governmental chiefs of Bangkok - well, time then to operate these facilities themselves and process any waste irrespective of (domestic) source.

A private operator makes money hence that could be the reason why that particular governmental obligation was outsourced! 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

48 minutes ago, Sydebolle said:

Good point, thank you. So the governmental chiefs of Samut Prakarn cheat the governmental chiefs of Bangkok - well, time then to operate these facilities themselves and process any waste irrespective of (domestic) source.

A private operator makes money hence that could be the reason why that particular governmental obligation was outsourced! 

 

The local governments apparently don't have the expertise to handle such complicated technical issues...

 

So they have to outsource and contract out to private operators....who then also fail to properly provide the services...

 

But at least, thru the contracting out process, there's plenty of opportunities for kickbacks and skimming...  So the real mission is accomplished...

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

50 minutes ago, Sydebolle said:

Good point, thank you. So the governmental chiefs of Samut Prakarn cheat the governmental chiefs of Bangkok

 

I dunno if the Samut Prakan govt. or just some of their hired trash collectors were behind this little scam...

 

But Samut Prakan does have a legitimate garbage beef with Bangkok. As I understand the history of it, Bangkok province many years ago had some arrangement to transport BKK's municipal garbage to a BIG landfill in Samut Prakan...until it was finally filled and closed some years ago...

 

And, needless to say, it was never properly handled from an environmental end of things, and so now even many years later, they have big garbage fires there periodically as the methane gas catches fire, etc etc...

 

So these days, instead, as I understand it, BKK still exports most of its municipal garbage to landfills in two other nearby provinces.

 

 

In case you ever wondered where all the garbage that BKK produces finally ends up....