How has tourism downturn affected the market?

[Will E Vormer]

What do you make of it? I see alot of small hotel businesses up for sale suddenly.

[Peterw42]

Where do you get the perception that there has been a tourist downturn ? Yes the demographic has changed, less western more Chinese etc, but year on year tourist numbers increase every year.

2019 saw more tourists then 2018, 2018 saw more tourists then 2017 etc etc

Growth may have slowed but numbers are still positive.

If you are noticing lots of hotels for sale, it may have something to do with where you are looking.

 

There will probably be a fallout from corona virus but I doubt hotels have for sale sign on then just yet.

[Will E Vormer]

 Ive never seen it so quiet..

[Peterw42]

24 minutes ago, Will E Vormer said:

 Ive never seen it so quiet..

Whereabouts ?

I am at Jomtien and its the busiest I have seen it in the 5 years I have lived here. 

 

[Dcheech]

oops, nevermind

[RichardColeman]

Have to say that a LOT of tourists arrived before all the issues with the virus appeared, the more important question should be 'will they be replaced when they go home ?'. Whilst some people may say it is busy now, look again in 2 weeks 

[PingRoundTheWorld]

21 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

will they be replaced when they go home ?

No. China will be fighting the virus for months, and a good chance other countries - including Thailand - will too. Let's hope not, but if this gets bigger in Thailand you're looking at a situation of no tourists at all. I'm still in wait and see mode but with hundreds of unconfirmed cases already it is not looking good at all. The only question is whether the infection rate is the same as in China or not. If yes then we're already <deleted>.

[baansgr]

7 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Whereabouts ?

I am at Jomtien and its the busiest I have seen it in the 5 years I have lived here. 

 

I agree, many western families and young couples, never seen so many foreigners on the beach daytime. Beach road at night is a good atmosphere and could almost feel like somewhere in Europe....but no Chinese the past few weeks and definitely very very few bar hopping sexpats with bars empty.

[Jaxxper]

22 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Whereabouts ?

I am at Jomtien and its the busiest I have seen it in the 5 years I have lived here. 

 

Yes, was down that way last Sunday and thought it was pretty busy.

[geisha]

The beach front restaurants seem to be doing ok in Jomtien. The bars are nearly empty. The restaurants on Thappraya are very quiet. Indian By Nature, generally full ish , have two girls outside giving out flyers, looks quiet inside. Maybe they have priced themselves out of the current market ?  I also think a lot of people come into Jomtien from Pattaya for the evening now. And of course the Bangkok gang on the weekends to flee the pollution, maybe more and more, although the pollution is very high here too. The night market is quieter with the Chinese absence, tho the beach games competition across the road seems to attract quite a crowd. I think next week it will be much quieter.

[alant]

23 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Whereabouts ?

I am at Jomtien and its the busiest I have seen it in the 5 years I have lived here. 

 

Thats where they are, Chiang Mai pretty quiet.

[Brunolem]

22 hours ago, PingRoundTheWorld said:

No. China will be fighting the virus for months, and a good chance other countries - including Thailand - will too. Let's hope not, but if this gets bigger in Thailand you're looking at a situation of no tourists at all. I'm still in wait and see mode but with hundreds of unconfirmed cases already it is not looking good at all. The only question is whether the infection rate is the same as in China or not. If yes then we're already <deleted>.

I start receiving emails from the major hotel chains (Centara...) advertising for big discounts available right now.

 

This is always a sign that something is wrong...especially early February.

 

Like you say, I wouldn't be surprised to see tourism go into a standstill within the next couple of months...

[Matzzon]

I would guess, in a negative way. What do you think?

[Harveyboy]

On 2/4/2020 at 10:13 AM, Peterw42 said:

Whereabouts ?

I am at Jomtien and its the busiest I have seen it in the 5 years I have lived here. 

 

I'm in jomtien also.  Apart from the normal Russians I'd say it's very very quiet...

[Harveyboy]

3 hours ago, geisha said:

The beach front restaurants seem to be doing ok in Jomtien. The bars are nearly empty. The restaurants on Thappraya are very quiet. Indian By Nature, generally full ish , have two girls outside giving out flyers, looks quiet inside. Maybe they have priced themselves out of the current market ?  I also think a lot of people come into Jomtien from Pattaya for the evening now. And of course the Bangkok gang on the weekends to flee the pollution, maybe more and more, although the pollution is very high here too. The night market is quieter with the Chinese absence, tho the beach games competition across the road seems to attract quite a crowd. I think next week it will be much quieter.

Yes agree I used to go to Pattaya most evenings now don't see the sense in it enough to do in jomtien prices not much different Baht of 2 less for a beer but definitely better than the hussle of pat 

[Will E Vormer]

On 2/4/2020 at 10:13 AM, Peterw42 said:

Whereabouts ?

I am at Jomtien and its the busiest I have seen it in the 5 years I have lived here. 

 

I was there on friday and, well.. yes.. plenty of russians back this yr. Must mean thailand is super busy

[Will E Vormer]

21 hours ago, baansgr said:

I agree, many western families and young couples, never seen so many foreigners on the beach daytime. Beach road at night is a good atmosphere and could almost feel like somewhere in Europe....but no Chinese the past few weeks and definitely very very few bar hopping sexpats with bars empty.

Exactly what i saw too