25 confirmed coronavirus cases in Thailand

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, AndrewMciver said:

I'm completely unaware of the system in Thailand - but are these definately real figures, or could there be grounds to say they are hiding true figures?

 

You could definately see why they would be motivated to downplay everything. 

Lets start with the "system" .... the system changes with the wind.
You can guess the rest!

[khunpa]

Hard to say the real number of infected, when the test results never come in.

 

[Gweiloman]

 Never thought I would say this but the government is actually quite smart. They know very well the experts expats on TVF will never believe the figures they release and inflate it to serve their (expats) own agenda. The government says 25, the TV expats will say 250, which might well be the true figures. If the government had instead said 250, then TV expats would say 2,500.

It matters not whether it’s 25 or 250. But floating a figure of 2,500 on social media will have very undesirable consequences which a responsible government must guard against. What is most important is that we must decide on the risks ourselves and act accordingly. 
 

I’m on the next flight out. 

[Canuck1966]

9 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

 Never thought I would say this but the government is actually quite smart. They know very well the experts expats on TVF will never believe the figures they release and inflate it to serve their (expats) own agenda. The government says 25, the TV expats will say 250, which might well be the true figures. If the government had instead said 250, then TV expats would say 2,500.

It matters not whether it’s 25 or 250. But floating a figure of 2,500 on social media will have very undesirable consequences which a responsible government must guard against. What is most important is that we must decide on the risks ourselves and act accordingly. 
 

I’m on the next flight out. 

bye bye

[overherebc]

1 hour ago, HHTel said:

Start of another day in the 'End of the World' saga. Figures updated at 07:53 Thai time today:

31,481 confirmed cases ( up 3,205, (4,824 (15%) in critical condition)

Deaths: 638 (up 73 same as yesterday)

1,563 recovered. (up 391)

 

And should be noted that 98% if these stats are in the Hubei province.

A report now on uk news. One more confirmed case in uk. The guy hasn't been to China but had just returned from Singapore. He is in ICU and his family under close observation.

[Haecksler]

4 hours ago, saengd said:

Actually yes! Because if your scaremongering story was correct we would have seen similar death rates go sky high in other countries where the virus has been found and we haven't. Fact is only one person has died from the virus in the PI and one in HK.

Wrong 2 have died outside China.

You obviously understand nothing, as you do not understand that the survival changes are far more high if you are admitted early to ICU and 4 specialists with all the medication are around you 24/7. In China this is not the case as people are refused because the hospitals are full. How many died nobody knows as they have not the capacity to test and the medical staff is exhausted.

This was reported long before the numbers skyrocketing and I believe that the number is far higher than reported.

 

[Haecksler]

1 hour ago, khunpa said:

Hard to say the real number of infected, when the test results never come in.

 

Precisely, uncompleted media reports are not determined as fake news IMO they are.

You can tell all the truth but you don't write the important facts. This is how you can lead the masses and keep them stupid / silence.

Many medias are reporting "there are x amount of deaths / cases" Wrong completely fake. "It was reported x amount ....." would be the right wording.

[FarFlungFalang]

2 hours ago, overherebc said:

Half the length it would be if it was twice as long, is actually the correct answer.

Which makes it exactly the length I want it to be.

Edited February 7, 2020 by FarFlungFalang

[Lemonltr]

Knowing Thai governments it is possible that the Thai taxi driver did not have this virus but was used to persuade other taxi drivers not to boycott Chinese. 

As for the comparison with the flu I suggest comparing graphs. 

[Caldera]

Their number of confirmed cases remains completely meaningless as long as there's a growing backlog of cases that need confirmation. They don't seem to be in any hurry to get that fixed, and it's easy to see why.

[Gweiloman]

1 hour ago, overherebc said:

A report now on uk news. One more confirmed case in uk. The guy hasn't been to China but had just returned from Singapore. He is in ICU and his family under close observation.

My flight’s not calling yet so I still have time to post. 
 

I said in an earlier post that I consider SG and HKG more dangerous than TH due to its land mass and population density. This is the first exported case from SG. 
 

Do posters here think that countries should close their borders to SG?

[Tayaout]

2 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

My flight’s not calling yet so I still have time to post. 
 

I said in an earlier post that I consider SG and HKG more dangerous than TH due to its land mass and population density. This is the first exported case from SG. 
 

Do posters here think that countries should close their borders to SG?

Maybe but SG already deny entry from Non-citizen that are coming or transited from China and HK plan on putting everyone from China under a 14 days quarantine. 

 

Thailand nope. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

6 hours ago, ezzra said:

As disinformation if rife and often practiced in Thailand, one should take any figures coming out of officials who has a clear agendas not to fully disclose the true figures, with a big pinch of salt, including the miraculous recoveries of 2 people already, this is owing to the simple reason of not scare the few tourists that are still contemplating to come visit Thailand...

 

One other thing the official Thailand figures report is beyond the 16 confirmed CV cases currently in hospital, there are another 390+ people hospitalized here as PUI - Patients Under Investigation -- with similar symptoms. How rapidly they're being tested and in what manner, we don't know.

 

The chart below is from the Thai Department of Disease Control, and the number I mentioned above is the combination of hospital patients under treatment plus the separate category for those in isolation.

 

 

Somehow, not surprising that the NNT government news release that's the OP here makes no mention of those two groups...

 

Previously, when patients PUI ended up being diagnosed with other illnesses instead of CV, the government was publicly reporting what their other illnesses ended up being. So you knew how those cases were resolved. But in the past week, they've stopped publicly reporting all those details, except for what they report as confirmed CV cases. So what's being found in the other cases, they're no longer saying.

 

 

 

Edited February 7, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Salerno]

6 hours ago, saengd said:

the UK media is now saying the Tencent figures were hacked and digitally altered

Yet still no link to any media saying that 

[cmsally]

14 minutes ago, Tayaout said:

Maybe but SG already deny entry from Non-citizen that are coming or transited from China and HK plan on putting everyone from China under a 14 days quarantine. 

 

Thailand nope. 

The assumption in Singapore is that there must have been carriers that got in before the flight ban. They are taking it pretty seriously. Yesterday I was told that 2 entire office building were closed/checked because there were suspicions of a possible case in each building.

[overherebc]

6 minutes ago, cmsally said:

The assumption in Singapore is that there must have been carriers that got in before the flight ban. They are taking it pretty seriously. Yesterday I was told that 2 entire office building were closed/checked because there were suspicions of a possible case in each building.

BBC from Hong Kong reporting similar. One building with 3 cases of local person to person infection. No info' on past travel re' the 3

Edited February 7, 2020 by overherebc

[LivinLOS]

Anutin Charnvirakul of the Thai public health ministry Suggesting kicking farangs out of the country 

Think someones getting annoyed that hes not being listened too.. You cant have it both ways, one time you want to say dont worry, its under control, dont panic.. The next you want to kick out europeans because they snubbed him and wouldnt take a health mask. 

Maturity much ?? 

[Eindhoven]

9 minutes ago, LivinLOS said:

Anutin Charnvirakul of the Thai public health ministry Suggesting kicking farangs out of the country 

Think someones getting annoyed that hes not being listened too.. You cant have it both ways, one time you want to say dont worry, its under control, dont panic.. The next you want to kick out europeans because they snubbed him and wouldnt take a health mask. 

Maturity much ?? 

 

 

Sad character. Always looking for someone else to blame. How many Europeans have contracted the disease in Thailand? How many Chinese/Asians, of whom he speaks so highly?

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

17 minutes ago, Eindhoven said:

 

 

Sad character. Always looking for someone else to blame. How many Europeans have contracted the disease in Thailand? How many Chinese/Asians, of whom he speaks so highly?

 

 

But everything is 100% under control, isn't it???  

[Guest]

Incredible that Europeans are now being blamed for the spreading of the coronavirus in Thailand.  And now they want to kick all of the farangs out of Thailand! Can you imagine the damage that would have not just on Thailands economy but also on international relations with UK etc. 

Edited February 7, 2020 by Guest

[HHTel]

1 hour ago, Haecksler said:

Wrong 2 have died outside China.

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Fact is only one person has died from the virus in the PI and one in HK.

One plus one is two by my maths.  And isn't HK part of China?

[doggie1955]

7 hours ago, AndrewMciver said:

 

So there's no independent verification of the numbers they give out ?

One Thai Doctor said, it was just the Flu...

[Guest]

Does anyone think there is a actually a possibility that Thailand could actually kick out Europeans/ farangs (not sure why he isn't including USA- only using Europeans) out of Thailand like he suggests? Given how they have been treated for a while now 2nd class to the Chinese/ Japanese etc maybe this would be a good excuse for them to do so?

[mtls2005]

39 minutes ago, LivinLOS said:

Anutin Charnvirakul of the Thai public health ministry Suggesting kicking farangs out of the country 

Think someones getting annoyed that hes not being listened too.. You cant have it both ways, one time you want to say dont worry, its under control, dont panic.. The next you want to kick out europeans because they snubbed him and wouldnt take a health mask. 

Maturity much ?? 

 

I'm crossing him off my Christmas list.

 

The pressure is getting to him.

 

It would be nice to have a MoPH Minister who has some medical training. Anutin's background is construction.

 

I feel fairly confident predicting that not a single Thai will succumb to nCoV19, and that any/all deaths will be foreigners (definitely no Chinese, maybe some Mynamar, but mostly "European" and "African", if I had to guess).

 

 

[Roy Baht]

Khaosan picked up the story https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2020/02/07/anutin-farangs-who-dont-wear-mask-should-be-kicked-out/

Edited February 7, 2020 by Roy Baht

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Roy Baht said:

Here's something interesting: https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2020/02/07/anutin-farangs-who-dont-wear-mask-should-be-kicked-out/

I'm surprised this story isn't getting more traction than it is. Racism anyone?

[Pravda]

8 hours ago, AndrewMciver said:

 

So there's no independent verification of the numbers they give out ?

 

No offense, but when you decided to fly to Thailand were you expecting to be in a nanny state?

[mtls2005]

7 minutes ago, mrwinner said:

I'm surprised this story isn't getting more traction than it is. Racism anyone?

It will.

 

And Prayut, and Newin, will slap him around, and force him to back-peddle (publicly apologize).

 

He's too emotional, besides being totally unqualified, for this position. Moreso given the many public health "issues" (air, water, virus) facing the country.

 

 

BTW, is he spreading false information about the virus?

 

 

 

 

Edited February 7, 2020 by mtls2005

[Guest]

Just now, mtls2005 said:

It will.

 

And Prayut, and Newin, will slap him around, and force him to back-peddle (publically apologize).

 

He's too emotional, besides being totally unqualified, for this position. Moreso given the many public health "issues" (air, water, virus) facing the country.

Yeah probably. Looking at the viewing figures for that video on Twitter it has gone up sharply now from 5k to almost 30k in 30 minutes so it should see at least 150,000 views by the end of the day

[cmsally]

1 hour ago, LivinLOS said:

Anutin Charnvirakul of the Thai public health ministry Suggesting kicking farangs out of the country 

Think someones getting annoyed that hes not being listened too.. You cant have it both ways, one time you want to say dont worry, its under control, dont panic.. The next you want to kick out europeans because they snubbed him and wouldnt take a health mask. 

Maturity much ?? 

The Europeans probably had their own better quality masks already. No use giving out those cheap paper  surgical masks.