Nakmuay887 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Jare said: Everywhere you go your dreams can become a nightmare, just that in western countries there is more of an effort to prevent things like this happening. More often decline in the west is slow and lonely. In places like here, it can decline a lot quicker, whatever chain of events that led to this is. Hit the nail on the head here. The amount of uncertainty many people here can be definitely attribute to these sort of events. Terribly sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Moonlover said: Most guys I've known carry their phone and wallet in their pockets. It saves all that rummaging that women always seem to be doing every time their phone rings. Most women i've seen, has the phone glued to their hand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animalmagic Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 43 minutes ago, from the home of CC said: imo it wasn't suicide and a bigger weight could have kept the body under.. If a murder then a bigger weight would possibly been effective at keeping the body underwater. The smaller rock tends to prove the theory put forward by Moonlover as possibly true. Bigger rock harder to float out on the lifejacket. Bodies start to decompose after death and drowning victims tend to surface within 24-48 hours after death as the decomposition creates gases that make the corpse more buoyant. The corpse will remain buoyant until the gases are released and the body will then sink and not return. If a murder, then piercing of the stomach and chest cavity before dumping at sea usually ensures the body remains at the bottom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smew Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Weight to neck and life jacket to legs: clearly wanted to have an appearance of a vertical sea weed growing from the sea bottom and mislead boaters in the area as usually bodies in water will position themselves horizontally, a murder. RIP ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, from the home of CC said: imo it wasn't suicide and a bigger weight could have kept the body under.. Do expand on your theory a bit. Why would a criminal intent on concealing a body by sinking it in the sea attach a life jacket to it? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Moonlover said: Do expand on your theory a bit. Why would a criminal intent on concealing a body by sinking it in the sea attach a life jacket to it? as usual the facts presented are designed to promote speculation hence more thread action $, there obviously isn't enough information for a theory expansion, this is just my opinion stated - I don't believe this is suicide.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 hours ago, nev said: R.I.P. New way to suicide? surely the balconies are disappearing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Jare said: Everywhere you go your dreams can become a nightmare, just that in western countries there is more of an effort to prevent things like this happening. More often decline in the west is slow and lonely. In places like here, it can decline a lot quicker, whatever chain of events that led to this is. Not really. There were approx. 1.5 million attempt suicides in the US last year and close to 50,000 died. It is an epidemic in the US they just do not advertise it every time it happens. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt9998 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Suicide or some Burmese guy did it 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICECOOL Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I am going with free diving accident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shadychris Posted February 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2020 The armchair detectives and forensic experts are out in force again. Surprised nobody suggesting he drifted there from Koh Tao yet... 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 hours ago, nev said: R.I.P. New way to suicide? Do you expect "copycats"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldo0 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Possibly floating device around his feet to make sure his head stayed under with the rock. Guy where I come from in uk rowed into middle of a loch and put on a rucksack full of rocks and jumped over the side. Horrible way to go I would think . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herwin1234 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, worgeordie said: If his hands were tied behind his back...suicide for sure.case closed. RIP whoever you were. regards Worgeordie Hm, not sure if you are serious or cynical. In fact, some ppl who commit suicide like hanging themselves DO tie their own hands before suicide, to prevent themselves freeing. Not sure, thats what you mean? Edited February 12, 2020 by herwin1234 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bander Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 No stabbings in the back this time? Must be suicide. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bander Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, herwin1234 said: His hands were not tied to his back. i guess its just a cynical anti Thailand joke. As somebody else pointed out, most likely its a suicide. So really no need for your sarcasm when somebody a fello farang took his own life. I think you are mistaken, suicide made by foreigner is always done by jumping from balcony while being naked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, herwin1234 said: Hm, not sure if you are serious or cynical. In fact, some ppl who commit suicide like hanging themselves DO tie their own hands before suicide, to prevent themselves freeing. Not sure, thats what you mean? They can tie them behind their backs? Or they do a step through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 The usual know-it-alls chime in with conclusions, opinions and sheer conjecture based on a news article. The story itself is pathetic, and so are some of the heartless comments. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlwilliamsjr18 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alzack Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 hours ago, BestB said: Clearly a suicide Perfectly normal in Pattaya and Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, herwin1234 said: Hm, not sure if you are serious or cynical. In fact, some ppl who commit suicide like hanging themselves DO tie their own hands before suicide, to prevent themselves freeing. Not sure, thats what you mean? In the past, the Thai police have said the person had committed suicide with their hands tied BEHIND their backs.case closed . regards worgeordie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussienam Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 hours ago, smedly said: people who commit suicide usually leave a note or have a well known reason like a terminal illness that friends/family would understand life jacket to feet rock to neck means it won't be long before his feet are floating and his head isn't The victims identity will be revealing if ever released jury out on this one for me I suspect we will never find out the truth Keep and eye out for anyone that has suddenly gone missing unexpectedly From experience in my previous job, suicide notes are not always the norm. Mental illness - depression, Bi-Polar, Schitzophrenia, PTSD etc are contributing factors. Underlying reasons are many - financial, relationships, job loss, illness, shame, etc. Suicides can be impulsive or planned. RIP to the troubled man if the coronial outcome/police finding is suicide. I won't speculate based solely off a local news report and attempt to solve the case as many often seem to be able to do! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFishman1 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Thai police will investigate about 5 minutes TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 hours ago, Moonlover said: Why would they give a murder victim a life jacket? I was a bit confused by this at first. A rock tied to his neck and a life jacket by his feet. How puzzling. Then the penny dropped. Float the rock out to sea in the life jacket, throw the rock overboard and down you go. I'll go for suicide. Very sad and somewhat disturbing that there are so many here. And why do you think he needed a phone charger? Looking for a plug? RIP anyway 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperTed Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I am happy to report the case is now closed. Verdict: Murder by Suicide Culprit: Pattaya Motive: Loss of face/Money Dispute/Stilted Lover/Bankruptcy Proposed Sentence: One year without Chinese tourists Maximum Sentence if Culprit Rejects the Verdict and Sentence: One year of Chinese tourists with Coronavirus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimn Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 hours ago, DrTuner said: I'm more surprised about there actually being a tourist at Koh Larn now that the Chinese hordes are gone, than there being a floater or two. Another rather uninformed post. Why do you feel the need to post such rubbish. I go to Koh Larn once a month. A lovely placeif you know where to go. Not a chinese tourist in sight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 hours ago, Moonlover said: I was a bit confused by this at first. A rock tied to his neck and a life jacket by his feet. How puzzling. Then the penny dropped. Float the rock out to sea in the life jacket, throw the rock overboard and down you go + 1 for this theory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiSePuede419 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) Let's see. Just spitballing here... Koh Larn is near Pattaya, correct? Hmmm. Another David Carradine, perhaps? Pattaya: A deadend cul-de-sac where you got nothing left to lose except your life. Edited February 12, 2020 by SiSePuede419 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, aussienam said: From experience in my previous job, suicide notes are not always the norm. Mental illness - depression, Bi-Polar, Schitzophrenia, PTSD etc are contributing factors. Underlying reasons are many - financial, relationships, job loss, illness, shame, etc. Suicides can be impulsive or planned. RIP to the troubled man if the coronial outcome/police finding is suicide. I won't speculate based solely off a local news report and attempt to solve the case as many often seem to be able to do! yes and people around all the examples you gave are aware - I just didn't go into the same level of detail as you did as for the man found floating - nobody on TVF is in a position to solve anything, we can only give views and opinions - some more informed than others - it's called a discussion which you are taking part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 hours ago, VYCM said: It surprises me to see comments of RIP. You have no idea who this guy is, he could be the worst of the worst. I reckon it would be a good idea to hold of with RIP's until it is known who he is. We are all equal in death. RIP and condolences to his family if he has one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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