Popular Post webfact Posted February 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2020 Thailand and guns: Media mentions thousands of deaths from gun violence - but the USA is worse Thailand's National News Bureau said on Facebook that recent incidents of violence with guns have prompted questions about Thailand and the gun laws. They wanted to put the record straight with some facts and statistics. These were expressed in a series of clear slides in English. They said that Thai gun laws have been in place since 1947. people could acquire licences for the purpose of self defence, protection of property, sports and hunting. Since an amendment to the law in 2017 only Thai citizens could own guns. Thailand is NOT among the top 25 countries in the world in terms of legal firearms ownership per capita. But they conceded that Thailand has problems with a "thriving" grey and black market in guns. Thailand ranks 13th in the world in terms of civilian held legal and illicit firearm ownership. This is above The Philippines, a nation often cited as a country where there are a lot of guns, notes Thaivisa. In 2016 there were 3,830 gun related deaths in Thailand ranking the country as 11th worst in the world. This was not as bad as countries like Brazil, the USA and India, said the media. Many people in Thailand are questioning the availability of guns in the wake of the fatal shootings in Korat at the weekend in which a soldier killed 29 people before he was shot dead at the Terminal 21 mall in downtown Nakhon Ratchasima on Sunday. Source: Facebook NNT -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2020-02-13 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CNXexpat Posted February 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2020 It seems it´s too easy to get a gun in Thailand when I read the many articles where someone shot dead another one for a small reason. An interesting article about the same topic:https://pattayaone.news/thailands-gun-murder-rate/?fbclid=IwAR1EJODis67vGZ39WhrxMM8T0OQdb59BozvY09klgp0kotKGeuuRpy5E_1s 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RotBenz8888 Posted February 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, webfact said: Thailand and guns: Media mentions thousands of deaths from gun violence - but the USA is worse And Zimbabwe is worse than Thailand in terms of traffic deaths! 2 1 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted February 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) Its a face saving thing they like to blow yours off first often for very little reason ???? Edited February 13, 2020 by sammieuk1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pookiki Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) I saw several news accounts that the Korat shooter purchased three weapons through the 'Army welfare program'. Is there a limit on the number of weapons that can be purchased under the program? What, if anything, prevents these weapons being sold on the 'black' or 'gray' market'? Based on what I have 'heard' but with no personal experience, I was always under the impression that if you had enough money, getting a gun in Thailand wasn't a problem. I would also be curious to know if carrying a weapon in Thailand is legal and whether the Thai government issues permits to gun holders. Edited February 13, 2020 by pookiki grammar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pravda Posted February 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2020 I can sense a clear disappointment in the article as not being a hub. There is always next year! 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkatl Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 35% of U.S. mass shooters (lone, male, 18-59) are veterans, whereas 14.76% of the general population (male, 18-59) are veterans. A mass shooter is 2.37 times more likely to be a veteran than a random person is. - The Foreign Policy Journal Of course veterans are not all mass shifters waiting to explode. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Assurancetourix Posted February 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2020 27 minutes ago, Pravda said: I can sense a clear disappointment in the article as not being a hub. There is always next year! Don't be pessimistic In absolute terms, the USA and Brazil, which each have 7 to 8 times more inhabitants than Thailand, are of course ahead; but relatively, Thailand beats them and from very far. 11 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LomSak27 Posted February 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2020 Playbook tactic #1 If it is bad, try and drag the USA into it. However .. In 2016 Thailand's rate of violent gun-related deaths stood at 4.45 deaths per 100,000 inhabitants. In comparison, that of the Philippines was 7.42; the US, 3.85; Cambodia, 0.96; Myanmar, 0.56; Malaysia, 0.46; Indonesia, 0.10; and Singapore, 0.03. Coconuts had this story on TV a couple years back back NPR ran the data from the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation after the recent mass shootings in California, and found Thailand had 7.48 violent gun deaths per 100,000 people in 2013. That’s over twice the gun death rate in the US, which had 3.55 deaths per 100,000 people in the same year. Thailand also has the highest gun death rate in Asia, the data shows. It had 50% more deaths than the Philippines, which also beat the US gun death rate with 4.64 deaths per 100,000 people. Maybe they should not have included ... but the USA is worse 32 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Saint Nick Posted February 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2020 What is the point in always looking for the ones, that perform worse than you? 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post USNret Posted February 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2020 So because America is worse, we can accept violence in Thailand? Is that the story here? 11 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post klauskunkel Posted February 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 hours ago, webfact said: Media mentions thousands of deaths from gun violence - but the USA is worse They wanted to put the record straight with some facts and statistics. The US has many more inhabitants than Thailand, so if you are talking statistics, then you have to factor that in. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post deesquared Posted February 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2020 What does gun rights have anything to do with a soldier rading an armory? If anything gun rights could have helped this situation. We've seen this time and time again in the US when a private citizen stops a shooting with their own weapon. 13 2 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted February 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Saint Nick said: What is the point in always looking for the ones, that perform worse than you? It's an excuse for doing nothing. 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted February 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2020 This recent massacre is extremely rare in Thailand. I am far more fearful of violence and being shot in the US, than I am here. Most gun deaths in Thailand are Thai on Thai. Very little violence against foreigners, fortunately. 6 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Geoffggi Posted February 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2020 Comparing Thailand with other countries is another matter, the fact that Thailand has a gun problem should be all this discussion is about instead of trying to blindside everyone as to which country is worst....!! 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DoctorG Posted February 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 hour ago, bkkatl said: 35% of U.S. mass shooters (lone, male, 18-59) are veterans, whereas 14.76% of the general population (male, 18-59) are veterans. A mass shooter is 2.37 times more likely to be a veteran than a random person is. - The Foreign Policy Journal Of course veterans are not all mass shifters waiting to explode. Very interesting stats, but I am happy to report that I have not shot anybody so far this year (although it is only Feb). ???? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 er...Thailand population, 70 million. America population 328 million....i think LOS is doing well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunerboi Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Comparing with countries that are worse off... that makes a hell lotta sense... Why don't they try Singapore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just bring one back from Cambodia, it is a ttriving business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docno Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 hour ago, LomSak27 said: Playbook tactic #1 If it is bad, try and drag the USA into it. However .. In 2016 Thailand's rate of violent gun-related deaths stood at 4.45 deaths per 100,000 inhabitants. In comparison, that of the Philippines was 7.42; the US, 3.85; Cambodia, 0.96; Myanmar, 0.56; Malaysia, 0.46; Indonesia, 0.10; and Singapore, 0.03. Coconuts had this story on TV a couple years back back NPR ran the data from the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation after the recent mass shootings in California, and found Thailand had 7.48 violent gun deaths per 100,000 people in 2013. That’s over twice the gun death rate in the US, which had 3.55 deaths per 100,000 people in the same year. Thailand also has the highest gun death rate in Asia, the data shows. It had 50% more deaths than the Philippines, which also beat the US gun death rate with 4.64 deaths per 100,000 people. Maybe they should not have included ... but the USA is worse Not sure where you get those numbers. The NPR piece I find (from last year) has the rate for the US at 4.43 while the comparable rate for Thailand is 3.71 and the rate for the Philippines is 9.20(!). https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/08/05/743579605/how-the-u-s-compares-to-other-countries-in-deaths-from-gun-violence So it seems they were technically correct in placing the US ahead of them... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docno Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 51 minutes ago, klauskunkel said: The US has many more inhabitants than Thailand, so if you are talking statistics, then you have to factor that in. … and when you do, the US still comes out as worse 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetdoe Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I would own a gun for self defence if the law hadn't changed in 2017. I meet the criteria for legally owning a gun apart from not being Thai. I still want to defend myself if the case arises. I've felt this way after being physically threaten a few months ago. I'm not pro-gun but if the Thai man in the street can legally own one for protection I'd like to too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickGC Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I love maps and charts https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/2/16399418/us-gun-violence-statistics-maps-charts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guderian Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 No need to worry, the government has everything 100% under control! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuttodd Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Clearly, the solution is to make massacres illegal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post featography Posted February 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 hour ago, LomSak27 said: Playbook tactic #1 If it is bad, try and drag the USA into it. However .. In 2016 Thailand's rate of violent gun-related deaths stood at 4.45 deaths per 100,000 inhabitants. In comparison, that of the Philippines was 7.42; the US, 3.85; Cambodia, 0.96; Myanmar, 0.56; Malaysia, 0.46; Indonesia, 0.10; and Singapore, 0.03. Coconuts had this story on TV a couple years back back NPR ran the data from the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation after the recent mass shootings in California, and found Thailand had 7.48 violent gun deaths per 100,000 people in 2013. That’s over twice the gun death rate in the US, which had 3.55 deaths per 100,000 people in the same year. Thailand also has the highest gun death rate in Asia, the data shows. It had 50% more deaths than the Philippines, which also beat the US gun death rate with 4.64 deaths per 100,000 people. Maybe they should not have included ... but the USA is worse And if we removed the 5 cities that have the strictest gun control laws, which also carries the highest rate of gun deaths, the rest of the US would be one of the safest countries to be in, in spite of owning more guns than any other country. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
featography Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 57 minutes ago, DoctorG said: Very interesting stats, but I am happy to report that I have not shot anybody so far this year (although it is only Feb). ???? I don't know where the Foreign Policy Journal bakes their statistics, but the facts are the largest % killings are done by gangs while committing robberies, turf wars, drug deals going wrong, and kids under duress, peer pressure, victims of bullying, and or mental issues, shooting up schools. US Veterans involved in illegal gun use are few and far between. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jimbo2014 Posted February 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2020 Great... lets compare ourselves with the most gun toting crazy country in the world. Just like Bangkok smog is not as bad as Delhi's ???? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, samuttodd said: Clearly, the solution is to make massacres illegal. Like wars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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