Britain tells the EU: we shall not sell out our fishermen

[SupermarineS6B]

Yeah you'll try you slimy bunch of back slapping pillocks, but old Nige'll be on your case faster chan a cheap Bkk whoooooore...... An Island that's restricted from fishing its own waters ?............. by its former enemies....... Mmmmmmmmm  I can't wait till someone clones Nelson......... 

[nauseus]

15 hours ago, TheDark said:

Well, she is telling as it is. English fisheries are not going to be selling their fish to the EU once the no-deal brexit happens. Enough tariffs, extra paperwork with added costs, added delivery costs and delays will make sure of that. 

 

Again truth. It's not England which puts NHS deal to the table, it's USA which does that.

 

So much rumbling coming out of this government. I wonder what is the destination this government with it's huge mandate is going to walk away to? Abyss?

Yes....so much rumbling.....

[vogie]

51 minutes ago, George Aylesham said:

Yes, but the wealthy British owners of the fish quotas sold them years ago to European fishing companies.

Maybe so, but the UK Government could insist these boats being unloaded at UK ports.

 

"Very worried of course about Brexit," says Barend Hakvoort, whose job it is to ensure the Netherlands' largest fish auction house maintains its stocks.

"Many Urk people are fishing under a UK flag, they own a lot of quota. If the UK says they must land the fish in the UK we lose a lot of clients. We have a long history; with Brexit they can just throw it away and say these are the new rules."

Skipper Andries wears a tartan beret and gold-hoop earring. "If we lost the UK waters we'd lose 50% from Dutch vessels. I'm nervous, I don't know what the future brings."

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46361999

[nauseus]

9 hours ago, Susco said:

 

When I see the Brits here in Thailand happily absorb the Vietnamese Pangasius, because the Brit restaurant owner wrote Cod on the menu, I doubt they know much about fish

sounds like you have a fish fetish....and a chip on your shoulder

[nauseus]

6 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

is it now?

how many EU members are mega keen on fishing in UK waters?

France, yes.

Spain? Portugal? Ireland? Netherlands? Belgium? Germany? --- are very keen or just interested?

 

The French, yes, but more so the Dutch and Spanish. 

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, George Aylesham said:

Yes, but the wealthy British owners of the fish quotas sold them years ago to European fishing companies.

Quotas are for EU countries. We left.

[chilli42]

I am not in touch with past bilateral trade talks between the US/UK.  What interest or objection does the US have to the UK NHS?

[Dumbastheycome]

53 minutes ago, fruitman said:

Do americans have lower food standards than the Brits?

 

I never heard of that, why kind of low standards should i think of?

Allowable levels of "contaminants", GM, labelled  disclosure of  such, etc.

 

 

[bannork]

21 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Quotas are for EU countries. We left.

The UK exports 75% of its fish. A no deal Brexit will make all those fish more expensive f

[melvinmelvin]

3 hours ago, izod10 said:

One quarter of Spains working population are engaged in FISH    Wiki..  more than keen  their livelihood

yes, but a few fishes are still left in the Med, and also they have the whole Atlantic next door

 

[nauseus]

2 minutes ago, bannork said:

The UK exports 75% of its fish. A no deal Brexit will make all those fish more expensive f

Quotas not exports. 

[melvinmelvin]

1 hour ago, worgeordie said:

F*kc OFF, France, but in the real World the UK will give into the EU

and allow their fishermen to fish in UK waters,they have sold out

UK fishermen in the past and will again.

regards Worgeordie

 

 

read the OP carefully,

having frogs and others fishing in UK waters is within what the lass is stating

 

[vinny41]

5 minutes ago, bannork said:

The UK exports 75% of its fish. A no deal Brexit will make all those fish more expensive f

Some 666,000 tonnes of fish was farmed and caught in the UK in 2014, of which 499,000 tonnes (75 per cent) were exported, and 66 per cent of those exports went to the EU. The UK also imported 721,000 tonnes of fish, 32 per cent of which came from the EU.

Britain imports big quantities of prawns and tuna from the EU, while its main fish export is mackerel.

If the UK eats more mackerel and less prawns and tuna mackerel will be cheaper

[vinny41]

3 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

 

read the OP carefully,

having frogs and others fishing in UK waters is within what the lass is stating

 

No she isn't she stated 

“We are not going to trade away our fishing in a deal with the EU or any other negotiating partner for that matter,” Truss said. “We are going to get a deal with the EU that does not involve selling out our fishing.”

The EU wants to link fishing rights to part of the main trade agreement

[melvinmelvin]

15 minutes ago, chilli42 said:

I am not in touch with past bilateral trade talks between the US/UK.  What interest or objection does the US have to the UK NHS?

aspirin too cheap to allow mega profit for US aspirin makers

 

[melvinmelvin]

4 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

No she isn't she stated 

“We are not going to trade away our fishing in a deal with the EU or any other negotiating partner for that matter,” Truss said. “We are going to get a deal with the EU that does not involve selling out our fishing.”

The EU wants to link fishing rights to part of the main trade agreement

yes,

and some frogs in UK waters does not necessarily mean that you have traded away "your fishing"

 

Edited March 3, 2020 by melvinmelvin
typo

[vinny41]

2 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

yes,

and some frogs in UK waters does not necessarily mean that you have traded away "your fishing"

 

Yes it does as the EU have already stated they want the same access as they currently have

and the French have already stated if their is no agreement on Fish there is no agreement on everything

[vinny41]

I would negotiate Fishing last, the EU and mainly the French want Fishing to be negotiated 1st and then they can say no to everything else
If Fishing is negotiated last they that puts them in a diffcult position as saying no to everything else may put their fishing access at risk

[TheDark]

1 minute ago, vinny41 said:

I would negotiate Fishing last, the EU and mainly the French want Fishing to be negotiated 1st and then they can say no to everything else
If Fishing is negotiated last they that puts them in a diffcult position as saying no to everything else may put their fishing access at risk

I wonder which side has the upper hand on these negotiations? The economy of 65 million consumers or the economy of 450 million consumers.

 

 

[vinny41]

2 minutes ago, TheDark said:

I wonder which side has the upper hand on these negotiations? The economy of 65 million consumers or the economy of 450 million consumers.

 

 

I guess if the EU/French don't get access to UK fishing waters they can also sail to Japan and Fish there, EU consumers would have to get use to eating different types of fish

[melvinmelvin]

17 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Yes it does as the EU have already stated they want the same access as they currently have

and the French have already stated if their is no agreement on Fish there is no agreement on everything

 

what the manure?

 

you must learn to read politicians utterances (what EU wants has NOTHING WHAT SO EVER to do with this)

 

she can sell some fishing rights to French and Spanish fish companies and still claim she is in line with OP

 

[vinny41]

1 minute ago, melvinmelvin said:

 

what the manure?

 

you must learn to read politicians utterances (what EU wants has NOTHING WHAT SO EVER to do with this)

 

she can sell some fishing rights to French and Spanish fish companies and still claim she is in line with OP

 

Suggest you re-read the original post as she has made it clear they will be no trade off or side deals link to fishing

[vinny41]

“Boris Johnson wants a free trade deal (similar to the one the EU struck with Canada) with extra agreements (like fishing) on the side, governed by separate dispute resolution mechanisms.”

Crucially, the UK is trying to avoid trade-offs, whereby for instance, the EU refuses to offer a tariff and quota-free trade deal unless the UK allow EU fishermen to retain the same levels of access to UK water as they enjoyed prior to Brexit.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1249799/BBC-news-brexit-bbc-katya-adler-boris-johnson-brussels-trade-talks-brussels-michel-barnier

[Baerboxer]

11 hours ago, Loiner said:

Won’t be getting any compo from the UK. They could always try the EU to subsidise French fisheries. 
What’s that, the EU has no spare cash now that the UK has left? I’m lovin it. 

 

Macron has upset do many sectors of the electorate he's looking to play tuff. His best option to get any popularity is conning the French public into believing he's making France a great world power again; leading the EU; bashing the British; and demanding this that and the other.

 

Only the French public, like many world leaders, aren't so easily conned by this ex banker Napoleon wannabee.

[Baerboxer]

28 minutes ago, TheDark said:

I wonder which side has the upper hand on these negotiations? The economy of 65 million consumers or the economy of 450 million consumers.

 

 

 

Ever hear the story of David v Goliath?

[Baerboxer]

31 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

I would negotiate Fishing last, the EU and mainly the French want Fishing to be negotiated 1st and then they can say no to everything else
If Fishing is negotiated last they that puts them in a diffcult position as saying no to everything else may put their fishing access at risk

 

It's the French and Spanish fishing fleets, the same nations that get caught most often by the Royal Navy and Irish Navy illegally fishing, that want no changes to how they currently operate. Plundering fish stocks and refusing to change. 

 

Agree, caving in early on fishing would be a terrible negotiating tactic. And it would not appease the EU, just make them more difficult.

[OneMoreFarang]

Did anybody consult the bean counters about this?

 

[TheDark]

6 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Did anybody consult the bean counters about this?

 

But eating mackerel means sovereignty!

 

I kind of was hoping, these facts would have come a bit later, as a big surprise for those who say fishing industry is such an important issue. 

[ThomasThBKK]

1 hour ago, vinny41 said:

No she isn't she stated 

“We are not going to trade away our fishing in a deal with the EU or any other negotiating partner for that matter,” Truss said. “We are going to get a deal with the EU that does not involve selling out our fishing.”

The EU wants to link fishing rights to part of the main trade agreement

 

Then you don't get a deal, easy. No one cares except brits.

 

Last time i looked there was also water around Ireland, france, spain,denmark, germany, italy, poland, norway, sweden, lithuania, latvia, estonia, portugal, croatia, greece, bulgaria, romania and the ukraine - MAYBE THERE'S FISH IN THESE WATERS TOO?!?

Edited March 3, 2020 by ThomasThBKK

[TheDark]

15 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Ever hear the story of David v Goliath?

That sums up the brexiteers strategy for complex negotiations.

 

- "Hey, why don't we amend wisdom from a 1500 years old fiction book." 

- "What a great idea, they'll never see what hit them! Our work is done."