Trump suspends all travel from Europe to the United States to fight coronavirus

[WalkingOrders]

1 minute ago, digibum said:

The first measure he could have taken was to take the virus seriously and not go on TV and tell people that it was no worse than the flu and that it would magically disappear on its own or that there was a vaccine that was probably going to be available in a few months when his own people, in the same meeting he said it, told him it would be more like 12 - 18 months. 

 

We all knew about the washing your hands and avoiding crowds thing weeks and weeks ago when it was spreading through Thailand and Asia.  He could have started getting that information out there to the American public long before the US had even their first case. 

 

The thing about viruses is that you may not be able to prevent them from getting to the US, but you can slow down how quickly they spread once they arrive.  He waited until it spread before he started to act. 

 

It's quite obvious that he's operating on his back foot right now.  He's reacting to the news as it unfolds.  That doesn't inspire confidence and that's why you're seeing markets react so terribly to his rather lackluster plans.  That's not Trump hating or Trump bashing, that is about as clear a sign as you can get because it's the worldwide consensus of investors. 

 

People want to hear a plan. 

 

And before you ask what type of plan I would like to hear, I don't know.  I'm not president of the United States.  He ran for the job and now it's his.  It's his job to figure out what the American people and investors need to hear. 

Look up the recovery rate from this virus. Sure don't want it spread, but seriously, you have a far higher chance of dying from the flu. Why is everyone here crying like an old grandma?

 

This is a man's world! Were all gonna die!

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

25 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said:

Do you honestly think, that the US CDC needs Donald Trump to tell them what to do? Certain functions require President approval , example allocating some additional funds, some coordinating inter agency, but they know what to do.

 

Except that the heads of federal agencies like the CDC director all are in fear for their jobs that if they say anything or do anything that's contrary to Trump's line -- and that for weeks has been the CV is nothing to worry about and will go away soon by itself -- that they'll be out on their ears like so many that preceded them.

 

Thus, they didn't act quickly on CV testing at the outset, they didn't take emergency steps to try to bolster needed medical supplies until just recently, and they didn't provide a clear and consistent message to the American public on how to best slow the march of the disease, because Trump was always on some different planet.

 

Not to mention, Trump two years ago disbanded the White House office responsible for coordinating federal planning for pandemics.

 

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-struggles-explain-why-he-disbanded-his-global-health-team-n1153221

 

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It's worth emphasizing that this is Trump's second explanation related to his decision to disband his global health security team. "I'm a business person," he explained two weeks ago in response to a similar question. "I don't like having thousands of people around when you don't need them. When we need them, we can get them back very quickly."

 

Except, as countless others have pointed out and as the federal government now knows, no, you can't!  Especially not when it means working for Donald Trump of all people!

 

Edited March 12, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Bluespunk]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

We are marshalling the full power of the federal government and the private sector to protect the American people," he said.

 

"This is the most aggressive and comprehensive effort to confront a foreign virus in modern history.”

So not “going away” then trump. 
 

How’s that humble pie tasting?

[digibum]

1 minute ago, WalkingOrders said:

Do you honestly think, that the US CDC needs Donald Trump to tell them what to do? Certain functions require President approval , example allocating some additional funds, some coordinating inter agency, but they know what to do.

 

They do.  But, they need resources from Trump to handle an emergency scenario and Trump was still denying that CV was any worse than a common flu when the CDC was trying to raise the alarm. 

[Traubert]

4 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Jack Ma can do Trump a favour by donating if he only ask.
 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8101113/Chinas-richest-man-donates-1-8-million-face-masks-100-000-coronavirus-test-kits-Europe.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=1490

And lets the Huawei CFO walk.

[Berkshire]

8 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said:

Look up the recovery rate from this virus. Sure don't want it spread, but seriously, you have a far higher chance of dying from the flu.

That's just simply wrong.  The fatality rate for COVID is at least ten times that of the flu.  You really shouldn't be repeating false information.

[digibum]

13 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Fair enough, its the POTUS's job to make sure Hospitals dont run out of supplies 

I'll just send Trump  a message and remind him to get some face masks ordered and some hand gel ......and also some toilet paper as well, just incase people panic buy 

 

Yes, please send him a note. 

[overherebc]

23 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

Where has it been said that only U.K passport holders will be able to travel to US from U.K ?? 

Please provide a credible link because I can't find one anywhere !!

Watched the live broadcast and heard him say 'won't apply to the UK'.

Later news casts also mention that all who have visited the 7??? high risk countries in the previous 4 weeks won't be allowed to travel from UK to USA.

USA people can do if they have been pre-screened??

Edited March 12, 2020 by overherebc

[metisdead]

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[candide]

47 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said:

Look up the recovery rate from this virus. Sure don't want it spread, but seriously, you have a far higher chance of dying from the flu. Why is everyone here crying like an old grandma?

 

This is a man's world! Were all gonna die!

Still trying to downplay it? You should keep up to date, that was in yesterday's tweets. It's over as Trumper's argument.

Edited March 12, 2020 by candide

[Boon Mee]

Trump is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. 

Haters gonna hate. 

???? Sad... 

 

MAGA 

[Eric Loh]

13 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

Trump is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. 

Haters gonna hate. 

???? Sad... 

 

MAGA 

He will be damned for undermining the health of the nation.

• Shutting down the entire global-health-security unit of the National Security Council.
• Eliminating the US government's $30 million Complex Crises Fund.
• Reducing national health spending by $15 billion.
• Consistently attacking Mark Green, the director of the US Agency for International Development.

[Emdog]

Preparedness is more than face masks and hand cleaner

Factors such as hospital facilities for numbers that are projected to overwhelm availability. Take a look at Italy: it's like a tsunami.

Ventilators needed in much greater numbers

What to do when medical staff are hit. I hope you seen exhausted staff trying to keep up

Coordination with FEMA, national guard, resources. Trump doesn't want to go that route, will then be able to say it was local governments that dropped the ball

[Opl]

17 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

Trump is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. 

Haters gonna hate. 

???? Sad... 

 

MAGA 

Had'nt the WHO declared the coronavirus a pandemic, yesterday's Trump would damn today's Trump and vice versa. 

Typical of Trump ambivalent statements when under pressure. 

But most importantly to Trump.. "there is no financial crisis"

Edited March 12, 2020 by Opl

[legend49]

6 hours ago, dcsw53 said:

This from the lips of the man who told us less than a week ago there was nothing to worry about.
Mind you he also said that about the Stock Market. 
Vote for someone you can trust !!  

Dow jones dropped another 1500 points yesterday after he spoke. The DJ futures looking at another 1000 point loss.

[Eric Loh]

12 minutes ago, legend49 said:

Dow jones dropped another 1500 points yesterday after he spoke. The DJ futures looking at another 1000 point loss.

The travel ban was most damaging as he didn’t consider nor coordinate with the allies and related industries. Many were caught off guard, unprepared and confuse adding to the Dow & S£P nervousness and uncertainty. 

[URMySunshine]

Looks like the CiC has bought into the commie/democrat corona hoax. 

 

Sean Hannity used his syndicated talk-radio program on Wednesday to share a prediction he had found on Twitter about what is really happening with the coronavirus: It’s a “fraud” by the deep state to spread panic in the populace, manipulate the economy and suppress dissent.

“May be true,” Mr. Hannity declared to millions of listeners around the country.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/us/politics/coronavirus-conservative-media.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Edited March 12, 2020 by URMySunshine

[cycolista]

5 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

well thats a difference in price in just a few minutes.

 

Whats your point by the way? 

They are free in NY. You germans are getting ripped off.

How much is a plane ticket to NY to get that free test?

[Chiphigh]

Notice that the trump hating squad will ignore the actions or lack there of done when the swine flu hit... Because if it weren't for double standards, they would have none. Then they'll spin the lack of media and market panic as a result of a superstar in the Whitehouse 

[zydeco]

3 hours ago, varun said:

"Europe" is ambiguous - probably means EU.

 

 

Probably looking at a map from 1941.

[Vigilante]

7 hours ago, Elzear said:

Not from UK, hey ...? Sounds like the Echelon is alive and well ! 

The whole thing stinks

I will leave it at that.

[zydeco]

2 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

If, some years from now, this turns out to be a sinister conspiracy to reverse

globalism, it will go down as one of the most diabolical but effective means

ever drummed up.

Only if he's willing to die for the cause.

[URMySunshine]

10 minutes ago, Chiphigh said:

Notice that the trump hating squad will ignore the actions or lack there of done when the swine flu hit... Because if it weren't for double standards, they would have none. Then they'll spin the lack of media and market panic as a result of a superstar in the Whitehouse 

Speaking on his Monday Fox News show, Tucker Carlson seemed to speak directly to skeptics like the president and Mr. Hannity, whose prime-time program follows his. “People you trust, people you probably voted for, have spent weeks minimizing what is clearly a very serious problem,” Mr. Carlson said, adding: “People you know will get sick, some may die. This is real.”

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/us/politics/coronavirus-conservative-media.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

 

Tucker is of course just a journalist with google whereas the CiC has had briefing from some of the best medical minds in the world for many weeks now and more importantly the levers of power.  Oh and countries just shut down their economies and borders for flu - get real folks THIS IS NOT FLU.

 

 

Edited March 12, 2020 by URMySunshine

[zydeco]

2 hours ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

much more serious problem will be this travel ban.

many more lives will be destroyed by it.

trump know it, he knows that there is over reaction to this virus,

he knows that millions of lives will be destroyed, if you stop travel

and block economies like that. riots, violence, even world war can start

just like that, because of few months of blockage.

but he was propably pressed by his advisors and other ministers to

do so.

Presbyterian, Methodist, or Southern Baptist?

[zydeco]

2 hours ago, WalkingOrders said:

A creepy half mindless money grubbing goof who doesnt know what day it is.

I still can't figure out which one you're referring to.

[Chiphigh]

6 hours ago, spiekerjozef said:

only when you have healthcare, otherwise  $1600.

He asked for a source of this claim. Either you have it, or you are not being honest. Which is it? 

[zydeco]

1 hour ago, WalkingOrders said:

This is a man's world! Were all gonna die!

You first.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

47 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

The travel ban was most damaging as he didn’t consider nor coordinate with the allies and related industries. Many were caught off guard, unprepared and confuse adding to the Dow & S£P nervousness and uncertainty. 

 

International cooperation and coordination, especially with supposed allies, has never been his strong suit.

 

[candide]

17 minutes ago, Chiphigh said:

Notice that the trump hating squad will ignore the actions or lack there of done when the swine flu hit... Because if it weren't for double standards, they would have none. Then they'll spin the lack of media and market panic as a result of a superstar in the Whitehouse 

No double standard. Obama did not try to downplay risks and acted quickly.

"Obama’s acting director of health and human services declared H1N1 a public health emergency on April 26, 2009. That was when the United States had only 20 confirmed cases of H1N1 and no deaths.

Two days later, the administration made an initial funding request for H1N1 to Congress. Eventually $7.65 billion was allocated for a vaccine and other measures."

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/06/donald-trump/donald-trump-wrong-saying-barack-obama-did-nothing/

[opalred]

i think we will drown in trumps b/s and verbal diarrhea before the virus gets us