Pattaya: Dozens of foreigners flouting virus regulations getting drunk in a bar - owners arrested

[Boon Mee]

8 hours ago, Number 6 said:

We as Thai expats are extremely self centered but there's a certain pathology to the Pattaya Jomtien expat. It never sat well with me.

Mongers... 

[AussieBob18]

2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

A quirk of this bar closure order is farang are crowding into less bar\restaurants so are at greater risk of catching and spreading, it was safer before with empty bars.

 

with a 43% death rate heading this way falang are being reckless

The death rate is not 43% - that is a false assumption and wrong.  

2502 deaths from 31506 equates to 7.9%.

But that is also a false assumption - the 31506 are those very sick and tested - most people  get mild symptoms - some none.

 

China has 3231 deaths from 81116 and that equates to 3.9% - but that is also false assumption for same reasons.

 

It will only be when they test many people later and sample who has the specific antibodies to then be able to calculate the true infection rate and the true mortality rate.  Right now it is the sick and risky that are being tested - it is too early to state the death rate or infection rate. The indicators, based on past viral infections is that it is highly contagious and that the death rate (entire popluation) will be about 1%.  But no one knows for sure.  

 

What you are saying is that the death rate from driving on Thailand roads is 43%. You are only measuring those involved in serious accidents and taken to hospital.  The actual death rate is much much lower - but still way too high.

[scubascuba3]

5 minutes ago, sahibji said:

what are they expected to do in thailand? perhaps the 4 ft distancing could be practiced.

it was previously in the mostly empty bars

[Wiggy]

9 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

Walking dead. They were selfish and ignorant when they were young. They are no different now that they are old. Show them the videos from France, Spain and Italy of the people their age  gasping for breath, lying in their urine and  feces because there is no one available to clean them, let them see those begging for help, slowly dying. Maybe they will get it.

If not, just isolate them all together in a cheap flat  and they can get to know each other some more.

I haven’t seen any of these scenes. Sounds horrific. Could you point me to your source, please? Thanks. 

[scubascuba3]

16 minutes ago, AussieBob18 said:

The death rate is not 43% - that is a false assumption and wrong.  

2502 deaths from 31506 equates to 7.9%.

But that is also a false assumption - the 31506 are those very sick and tested - most people  get mild symptoms - some none.

 

China has 3231 deaths from 81116 and that equates to 3.9% - but that is also false assumption for same reasons.

 

It will only be when they test many people later and sample who has the specific antibodies to then be able to calculate the true infection rate and the true mortality rate.  Right now it is the sick and risky that are being tested - it is too early to state the death rate or infection rate. The indicators, based on past viral infections is that it is highly contagious and that the death rate (entire popluation) will be about 1%.  But no one knows for sure.  

 

What you are saying is that the death rate from driving on Thailand roads is 43%. You are only measuring those involved in serious accidents and taken to hospital.  The actual death rate is much much lower - but still way too high.

It's about cases that had an outcome. People can check for themselves. Click on a country. For Italy, closed cases of 7,845, deaths 3,405 = 43%

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Edited March 19, 2020 by scubascuba3

[mikebell]

9 hours ago, david555 said:

Golden times now for the B.I.B 's "pension funds" 

'They face jail of one year and or a 100,000 baht fine.'  BIB are rubbing their hands in glee.  There's fewer motorists to extort so this is a whole new revenue stream.

[loong]

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Dozens of foreigners flouting virus regulations getting drunk in a bar - owners arrested

How are foreigners flouting the regulations???

The bar owners are responsible - not the customers.

If I didn't read Thai Visa, I wouldn't even be aware of the regulations.

There are not dozens of foreigners in the photo.

[craigieboy1973]

Jail deport the dirty rotten farang ... but empty wallet first

[Matzzon]

@Thaiwrath Why are you reacting so sad? Is it hard to get the truth served?

Edited March 19, 2020 by Matzzon

[TheFishman1]

You would think they would be putting more emphasis on the Thai greedy bar owners that have their bar open TIT

[soalbundy]

9 hours ago, Matzzon said:

What? Is there something seriously wrong with you? What does it matter if they are drunk or not? Do you believe that people get immune against the virus if they are not drunk? Seriously! What a stupid comment.

When I see fellow foreigners behaving this way, I feel the shame they put over all of us. That places would try to keep open anyway was expected, but that fellow foreigners can´t get of grip of the severity is totally unfathomable. Shame on all of you that are doing this, showing disregard and disrespect to your fellow human beings.

They were well spaced out though

[iamariva1957]

9 hours ago, Matzzon said:

What? Is there something seriously wrong with you? What does it matter if they are drunk or not? Do you believe that people get immune against the virus if they are not drunk? Seriously! What a stupid comment.

When I see fellow foreigners behaving this way, I feel the shame they put over all of us. That places would try to keep open anyway was expected, but that fellow foreigners can´t get of grip of the severity is totally unfathomable. Shame on all of you that are doing this, showing disregard and disrespect to your fellow human beings.

Ease up! We should all take the global situation seriously... but we should also not panic. As. For being ashamed... I see more Thais acting this way.... no masks either by the way. So my suggestion.... take it easy. For it is going to get worse before it gets better.  Certainly this government is going to make it worse as this is the perfect excuse to 'manage us farangs' even more.

[bkk6060]

All patrons supporting these illegally open bars should also be arrested.

Book em all!

[chicowoodduck]

Stupid is what stupid does.....and just a sign of the times....just wait until Songkran rolls into town.....????????????

[soalbundy]

23 minutes ago, Wiggy said:

I haven’t seen any of these scenes. Sounds horrific. Could you point me to your source, please? Thanks. 

His head

[smedly]

7 hours ago, Mulambana said:

I am reading all news related to India now. Its youths are behaving responsbily and practicing social distancing

I know why and it's nothing to do with a virus

[tonray]

9 hours ago, JCP108 said:

They clicked the WWII filter on the phone camera by accident when taking the photo.

A couple of those old codgers look like they could have been involved in the D-Day landings

[Matzzon]

5 minutes ago, iamariva1957 said:

Ease up! We should all take the global situation seriously... but we should also not panic. As. For being ashamed... I see more Thais acting this way.... no masks either by the way. So my suggestion.... take it easy. For it is going to get worse before it gets better.  Certainly this government is going to make it worse as this is the perfect excuse to 'manage us farangs' even more.

There is not any talk about panic in my post. Just shameful and irresponsible behaviour. As you point out, there are also many Thais the are irresponsible and behave shameful in this situation. However, it seems like many foreigners here are quick to point that out. To get the right to do that, one must also clean ones own act.

[Benmart]

10 hours ago, Ian Nagle said:

I think you are struggling to comprehend  the severity of the global crises situation, all things considered.

I don't read people's minds. The only way to know what they are thinking, is to ask them. Otherwise it is merely my opinion and has little merit.

[Matzzon]

14 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

They were well spaced out though

Yep, you are right. No problem with the social distance.

[pookondee]

Its those damn dirty farangs again...

Flaunting laws and infecting tge poor innocent Thais..

and they actually are quite shabbily dressed,

just like that wiseguy said

555

[smedly]

a lot of the bars are actually guest houses and have people staying there just like hotels 

 

I saw a few places yesterday serving people but they could have been guests 

 

If they were not guests then the owners should be held responsible for letting passing trade walk in - same goes for hotels

[Matzzon]

53 minutes ago, sahibji said:

what are they expected to do in thailand? perhaps the 4 ft distancing could be practiced.

At present time they are supposed to do nothing. That´s why they should not travel to Thailand at this time. If they want to break the rules, stay home and destroy the life for other in your home country.

As for the expats. They should understand better, use common sense and adhere to the rules and recommendations.

[Borzandy]

10 hours ago, Matzzon said:

What? Is there something seriously wrong with you? What does it matter if they are drunk or not? Do you believe that people get immune against the virus if they are not drunk? Seriously! What a stupid comment.

When I see fellow foreigners behaving this way, I feel the shame they put over all of us. That places would try to keep open anyway was expected, but that fellow foreigners can´t get of grip of the severity is totally unfathomable. Shame on all of you that are doing this, showing disregard and disrespect to your fellow human beings.

Agree, they go drinking in an open restaurant.

[baansgr]

Anywhere else in the world the headline would read " Bar owners flout virus laws"

Come on, the authorities informed bar owners, not tourists...how are foreigners supposed to know...and now we are actually seeing the greed and stupidity from bar owners.

[Emdog]

Walking Jomtien beach road other day around 4:30 I came upon a big party: seemed to be hash house harriers, perhaps 60-70 people, mostly farangs, filling both beach walk and sidewalk above. No "social distancing" at all, couple barbecues going, plenty of beer. Scene like pre virus behavior. I had to walk on the road to get around that crew.

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[petedk]

10 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

And meanwhile in my BKK neighborhood, the same exact kind of places are operating and open just fine...

 

And the few tourists that I see around, mostly western now, are sitting around outside at bars and restaurant-bars eating and drinking table to table, just like nothing bad was happening anywhere.

 

 

Exactly.

 

When is a pub not a pub, but a restaurant?

 

I saw many young Thais in what I would call pubs last night.

[iamariva1957]

11 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

There is not any talk about panic in my post. Just shameful and irresponsible behaviour. As you point out, there are also many Thais the are irresponsible and behave shameful in this situation. However, it seems like many foreigners here are quick to point that out. To get the right to do that, one must also clean ones own act.

Calm down. The panic is world wide... though you do not mention the word... you do sound as if you are leaning in that direction. Panic never helps. As for your last line... yes thailand should clean up it own act. As for us farangs... well... behave better sure. Understand the culture her better... sure. Follow the rules... okay.  But to keep quiet... on TV never happens...5555

[ChipButty]

They should have just banned the sale of alcohol, sorted

[Dustdevil]

9 hours ago, darksidedog said:

Maybe it was just the angle of the photo, but I couldn't see remotely close to 30 people, let alone foreigners in the bar.

I just declined my weekly table tennis and backgammon after at the pub/restaurant, which was still open, on the health and safety of me and them, so to be going out on the lash, surrounded by people you don't know is pretty irresponsible.

When these people get infected they will probably put it down to bad luck, rather than complete stupidity.

 

A stock photo, no doubt