Foreigners and locals in Thailand told to STAY INDOORS

[lujanit]

22 hours ago, lujanit said:

It will be interesting to see what happens this evening here in the moo baan.  At dusk there are people, including kids walking, riding bikes and playing badminton.  I usually go for a bike ride.

Last evening was no different to any previous evening.  Some people wearing masks yet the majority no masks.  I would estimate 50 people out between six and seven.

[spidermike007]

17 hours ago, simtemple said:

You just need to encounter one person with the virus. How do you think China stopped the virus from  spreading throughout China: Complete lockdown! Currently Indonesians are dying in the streets. I can quite easily imagine that happening in Thailand too. 

And that one person would need to cough directly onto you, or sneeze on you, and you would then have to be stupid enough to inhale while that happened. There is an astonishing lack of common sense and science going around. You do not get corona by being in the vicinity of someone who is infected. There is an actual means of transfer, that has to take place. Use sensible precautions, wear an N95 mask if possible, avoid crowds, keep your hands clean, sanitize often, and you are safer than a pedestrian in NYC or Bangkok. 

[brianthainess]

23 hours ago, webfact said:

People in Thailand should also wear a mask when outdoors and ensure they regularly wash their hands with soap and water or use hand sanitizer

What a joke, NO masks available, NO sanitizer available, and to top this all off i have had NO town water for 5-6 days ! storage tanks of 3,000 Lt now down to about 500 Lt. 

[Zikomat]

Wished I could stay home. I have to visit the crowded immigration office for the third time in one week because The immigration Has started To request the documents from me which they never asked for before the Covid. Definitely they make the lives of many of us much more difficult during these hard time.To be honest - I did not expect anything else from them.

[Zikomat]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

And that one person would need to cough directly onto you, or sneeze on you, and you would then have to be stupid enough to inhale while that happened. There is an astonishing lack of common sense and science going around. You do not get corona by being in the vicinity of someone who is infected. There is an actual means of transfer, that has to take place. Use sensible precautions, wear an N95 mask if possible, avoid crowds, keep your hands clean, sanitize often, and you are safer than a pedestrian in NYC or Bangkok. 

Are you a doctor? This virus is very potent and it does not need direct contact to be spread.

[Varrius]

On 3/26/2020 at 11:53 AM, FarFlungFalang said:

Shirley everybody but ME!

As Frank Drebin would say 'Dont call me Shirley'  ????????

[papa al]

On 3/26/2020 at 11:56 AM, darksidedog said:

Possible the most sensible comment to have come from the government to date. If people ignore the peril and keep socialising this virus will sweep rampantly through the country.

It will regardless.

[mixed]

Does anybody know if it's still possible to travel to Bangkok from a nearby province? I am out of town, my staff are still working. Is it possible to drive in to see them and pick up supplies so they can continue to work?

[Xonax]

On 3/26/2020 at 5:50 AM, Surelynot said:

Foreigners and locals? So everyone!

What about us Aliens??

Edited March 27, 2020 by Xonax

[likerdup1]

On 3/26/2020 at 11:53 AM, FarFlungFalang said:

Shirley everybody but ME!

Don't call me Shirley.. that's not my name.

[likerdup1]

16 hours ago, SupermarineS6B said:

This apparently is the winner...........Don't ask where it came from.......

HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE

    200mg, 1Pill twice/day, for 5days

 

2. AZILTHROMYCIN

    500mg, 1Pill/day, for 5days

 

3. ZINC SULPHATE

    220mg, 1Pill/day, for 5days

 

 

RESULTS

-----------

a)    350 patients 0 deaths, 0 hospitalisations, 0 Intubations.

       Breathing restored 3-4 hours

First of all, AZILTHROMYCIN is an antibiotic which has zero, no effect on fighting viruses, antibiotics are for killing BACTERIA NOT VIRUSES, two completely different kinds of micro organisms.. So just based on this "concoction" of drugs including a strong dose of AZILTHROMYCIN I call BS... no way is this by any means a cure or a way of treating Covid-19 virus infection.

 

Thailand Pharmacies are famous for dolling out Antibiotics like candy for the common cold or flu which are viruses and not treatable with antibiotics. They sell you the drugs just to make money.. period. Antibiotics do not kill viral infections, they kill bacterial infections.

 

In the USA and most western countries testing is done on a patient FIRST before antibiotics are administered to see if the patient has a BACTERIAL infection.. there is no cure for viral infections. otherwise there would be cures for HIV, THE COMMON COLD, THE FLU ... and COVID-19.

 

 

Edited March 27, 2020 by likerdup1

[Kadilo]

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

And that one person would need to cough directly onto you, or sneeze on you, and you would then have to be stupid enough to inhale while that happened.

My understand Is that statement is simply untrue. 

[bkkcanuck8]

17 minutes ago, likerdup1 said:

First of all, AZILTHROMYCIN is an antibiotic which has zero, no effect on fighting viruses, antibiotics are for killing BACTERIA NOT VIRUSES, two completely different kinds of micro organisms.. So just based on this "concoction" of drugs including a strong dose of AZILTHROMYCIN I call BS... no way is this by any means a cure or a way of treating Covid-19 virus infection.

 

Thailand Pharmacies are famous for dolling out Antibiotics like candy for the common cold or flu which are viruses and not treatable with antibiotics. They sell you the drugs just to make money.. period. Antibiotics do not kill viral infections, they kill bacterial infections.

 

In the USA and most western countries testing is done on a patient FIRST before antibiotics are administered to see if the patient has a BACTERIAL infection.. there is no cure for viral infections. otherwise there would be cures for HIV, THE COMMON COLD, THE FLU ... and COVID-19.

 

 

An infection like SARS-CoV-2 can open up your body to secondary infections to bacteria infections caused by bacteria that you are already carrying on you.  I would not rule out that antibiotics would be used as part of the medications that are given - especially for those that have a compromised immune system.  I believe they were widely used in China during their outbreak (don't know which antibiotics were used though).

[spidermike007]

3 hours ago, Zikomat said:

Are you a doctor? This virus is very potent and it does not need direct contact to be spread.

Totally incorrect. According to every source I have read, and studied, and a good friend who is a pulmonary specialist in the US, it is absolutely NOT airborne and can only be caught if you come in direct contact with an infected person who sneezes or coughs within 2 meters of you and you inhale their droplets, or they get into your eyes. This is science. It can also be transferred from surfaces and intimacy. But it is not known how long it lives on surfaces. Estimates range from up to 9 days on metal or plastic in temperatures under 75f, to an hour or two, in the kinds of temperatures we have here. Frequent hand sanitizing, an N95 mask in crowds, and goggles or sunglasses, and it has little chance. That is it. Period. Alot of scare mongering going on. Accurate info is essential. 

Edited March 27, 2020 by spidermike007

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, likerdup1 said:

First of all, AZILTHROMYCIN is an antibiotic which has zero, no effect on fighting viruses, antibiotics are for killing BACTERIA NOT VIRUSES, two completely different kinds of micro organisms.. So just based on this "concoction" of drugs including a strong dose of AZILTHROMYCIN I call BS... no way is this by any means a cure or a way of treating Covid-19 virus infection.

 

Thailand Pharmacies are famous for dolling out Antibiotics like candy for the common cold or flu which are viruses and not treatable with antibiotics. They sell you the drugs just to make money.. period. Antibiotics do not kill viral infections, they kill bacterial infections.

 

In the USA and most western countries testing is done on a patient FIRST before antibiotics are administered to see if the patient has a BACTERIAL infection.. there is no cure for viral infections. otherwise there would be cures for HIV, THE COMMON COLD, THE FLU ... and COVID-19.

 

 

So, if infected and seriously ill, better to simply accept and embrace death? Not my style. I don't play that game of surrender. 

[nauseus]

49 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Totally incorrect. According to every source I have read, and studied, and a good friend who is a pulmonary specialist in the US, it is absolutely NOT airborne and can only be caught if you come in direct contact with an infected person who sneezes or coughs within 2 meters of you and you inhale their droplets, or they get into your eyes. This is science. It can also be transferred from surfaces and intimacy. But it is not known how long it lives on surfaces. Estimates range from up to 9 days on metal or plastic in temperatures under 75f, to an hour or two, in the kinds of temperatures we have here. Frequent hand sanitizing, an N95 mask in crowds, and goggles or sunglasses, and it has little chance. That is it. Period. Alot of scare mongering going on. Accurate info is essential. 

If it's not airborne then how the hell do you inhale it? Lick it off people's collars then suck it down? Accurate info is essential! 

[spidermike007]

17 hours ago, nauseus said:

If it's not airborne then how the hell do you inhale it? Lick it off people's collars then suck it down? Accurate info is essential! 

This response is a great example of the need for science, and the panic and fear mongering that is taking place right now. It is essential that we have the correct information, try to avoid making assumptions, and rely on facts and science, and NOT presumptions. There is a vast difference between an airborne virus such as smallpox, and a virus that IS NOT airborne, such as corona. 

 

The principal mode of transmission is still thought to be respiratory droplets, which may travel up to six feet from someone who is sneezing or coughing. The new coronavirus isn’t believed to be an airborne virus, like measles or smallpox, that can circulate through the air. “If you have an infected person in the front of the plane, for instance, and you’re in the back of the plane, your risk is close to zero simply because the area of exposure is thought to be roughly six feet from the infected person,” said Chiu. Close contact with an infectious person, such as shaking hands, or touching a doorknob, tabletop or other surfaces touched by an infectious person, and then touching your nose, eyes, or mouth can also transmit the virus.

 

So, it is only airborne for up to six feet, then the heavy droplets fall to the floor, or a surface, and do not remain in the air, as is the case with many other diseases. 

 

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/02/416671/how-new-coronavirus-spreads-and-progresses-and-why-one-test-may-not-be-enough

 

 

Edited March 28, 2020 by spidermike007

[ThailandRyan]

18 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

So, if infected and seriously ill, better to simply accept and embrace death? Not my style. I don't play that game of surrender. 

That's why the medical doctors use anti-viral medications to fight viruses and help your bodies immune system and army of white blood cells to attack and fight off the virus.  Sometimes this does not work, and the end result is ......

[spidermike007]

18 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

That's why the medical doctors use anti-viral medications to fight viruses and help your bodies immune system and army of white blood cells to attack and fight off the virus.  Sometimes this does not work, and the end result is ......

Exactly. If seriously ill, with major lung issues, I would try both the hydroxychrolorquine, and the Zithromax without missing a beat. What is the down side, at that point? Whatever it takes. You think I am going to accept a doctor's pronouncement that they cannot do anything for me, and I just have to roll the dice, and see if I survive? I have very limited faith in allopathic medicine anyway, and a very limited amount of respect for most conventional doctors, and their limited wisdom. Most are simply prescription machines. The specialists are a bit better. 

 

So, having them make that kind of declaration would only encourage me to try anything out there, that researchers around the world are having success with. Why wouldn't any sensible person try that? 

 

 

[phichay]

On 3/26/2020 at 4:04 PM, geronimo said:

All except the soi dogs who can finally reclaim their territory!!

Apparently the soi dogs are celebrating. They believe that they've finally won the Great Soi War and everyone is too afraid to come out on the streets.

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

This response is a great example of the need for science, and the panic and fear mongering that is taking place right now. It is essential that we have the correct information, try to avoid making assumptions, and rely on facts and science, and NOT presumptions. There is a vast difference between an airborne virus such as smallpox, and a virus that IS NOT airborne, such as corona. 

 

The principal mode of transmission is still thought to be respiratory droplets, which may travel up to six feet from someone who is sneezing or coughing. The new coronavirus isn’t believed to be an airborne virus, like measles or smallpox, that can circulate through the air. “If you have an infected person in the front of the plane, for instance, and you’re in the back of the plane, your risk is close to zero simply because the area of exposure is thought to be roughly six feet from the infected person,” said Chiu. Close contact with an infectious person, such as shaking hands, or touching a doorknob, tabletop or other surfaces touched by an infectious person, and then touching your nose, eyes, or mouth can also transmit the virus.

 

So, it is only airborne for up to six feet, then the heavy droplets fall to the floor, or a surface, and do not remain in the air, as is the case with many other diseases. 

 

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/02/416671/how-new-coronavirus-spreads-and-progresses-and-why-one-test-may-not-be-enough

 

 

 

This response is a great example of the need for people to be aware that this virus can spread through the air, as well as being directly contractible from other people or surfaces. Only airborne for 6 feet still means it's airborne. Lighter droplets will stay in the air longer, possibly for up to a few hours.

https://www.healthline.com/health/airborne-diseases#types

 

[Chazar]

No  Thanks Im outside  almost  all day at the moment.............I do live on 20 odd  rai though with a big wall

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

 

This response is a great example of the need for people to be aware that this virus can spread through the air, as well as being directly contractible from other people or surfaces. Only airborne for 6 feet still means it's airborne. Lighter droplets will stay in the air longer, possibly for up to a few hours.

https://www.healthline.com/health/airborne-diseases#types

 

Oh the humanity if true, then Lockdown must be imminent, but its not, so live life, social distance, and keep safety always in mind.  Just think, your on your balcony, the neighbor below is also out, they cough and even though you were self isolating your a victim....lets not start panicking, just be safe

[spidermike007]

20 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Oh the humanity if true, then Lockdown must be imminent, but its not, so live life, social distance, and keep safety always in mind.  Just think, your on your balcony, the neighbor below is also out, they cough and even though you were self isolating your a victim....lets not start panicking, just be safe

A voice of reason, in the wilderness of panic, desperation, ill informed souls, and zombie apocalypse mongering. Thanks for the words of calm and the presence of a rational mind. 

[DrTuner]

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

This response is a great example of the need for science, and the panic and fear mongering that is taking place right now. It is essential that we have the correct information, try to avoid making assumptions, and rely on facts and science, and NOT presumptions. There is a vast difference between an airborne virus such as smallpox, and a virus that IS NOT airborne, such as corona. 

 

The principal mode of transmission is still thought to be respiratory droplets, which may travel up to six feet from someone who is sneezing or coughing. The new coronavirus isn’t believed to be an airborne virus, like measles or smallpox, that can circulate through the air. “If you have an infected person in the front of the plane, for instance, and you’re in the back of the plane, your risk is close to zero simply because the area of exposure is thought to be roughly six feet from the infected person,” said Chiu. Close contact with an infectious person, such as shaking hands, or touching a doorknob, tabletop or other surfaces touched by an infectious person, and then touching your nose, eyes, or mouth can also transmit the virus.

 

So, it is only airborne for up to six feet, then the heavy droplets fall to the floor, or a surface, and do not remain in the air, as is the case with many other diseases. 

 

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/02/416671/how-new-coronavirus-spreads-and-progresses-and-why-one-test-may-not-be-enough

It depends on the particle that has been aerosolized. SARS-CoV, the original one, was aerosolized with feces particles in one condo building in Hong Kong back in 2003: https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa032867

 

Quote

CONCLUSIONS
Airborne spread of the virus appears to explain this large community outbreak of SARS, and future efforts at prevention and control must take into consideration the potential for airborne spread of this virus.

 

Any sort of particle might be able to carry it, but to get infected you would need to inhale a large enough quantity. 

 

Stay home, stay safe and keep those PM2.5 air purifiers going ( and wear protective clothing when changing the filter ).

Edited March 28, 2020 by DrTuner

[KenKadz]

Curious to know:

1. Why is Thai Immigration not working with Stranded Tourist to "waive" Visa Extension Fees?

2. Why is Tourist Authority of Thailand not working with Stranded Tourists to arrange Return to their own Countries?

If Thailand showed more compassion and assistance to tourists it would make a big difference to the countries international image and might help bring tourists back after corona.

[thainet]

9 minutes ago, KenKadz said:

Curious to know:

1. Why is Thai Immigration not working with Stranded Tourist to "waive" Visa Extension Fees?

2. Why is Tourist Authority of Thailand not working with Stranded Tourists to arrange Return to their own Countries?

If Thailand showed more compassion and assistance to tourists it would make a big difference to the countries international image and might help bring tourists back after corona.

You could add a myriad of extras also, but you are right, 'international image' is going to be crucial after this pandemic passes..things said and done will be remembered.

[ravip]

On 3/26/2020 at 10:38 AM, Liverpoolfan said:

Regardless of how many thousands of people show up, god knows how many infected.

 

good job lads!

If he knows, cant he wipe out the virus with one stroke of his hand? ????

Edited March 28, 2020 by ravip

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

A voice of reason, in the wilderness of panic, desperation, ill informed souls, and zombie apocalypse mongering. Thanks for the words of calm and the presence of a rational mind. 

Yes, you should calm down a bit.

[DrTuner]

1 hour ago, KenKadz said:

Curious to know:

1. Why is Thai Immigration not working with Stranded Tourist to "waive" Visa Extension Fees?

2. Why is Tourist Authority of Thailand not working with Stranded Tourists to arrange Return to their own Countries?

If Thailand showed more compassion and assistance to tourists it would make a big difference to the countries international image and might help bring tourists back after corona.

They simply don't care. Loving that maibpenrai spirit now?

Edited March 28, 2020 by DrTuner