champers Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) Hearing from a source in England that the owner of a Northern Soul bar in Pattaya has passed away. Only in his 40s, the cause of death stated as pneumonia. Edited March 27, 2020 by champers 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Leaver Posted March 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2020 As I have said in another thread, how many cases of Corona were officially recorded as death by pneumonia, particularly earlier on in the crisis. Thailand has got away with a lot of smoke and mirrors, for many things, in the past, but it will not work this time. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob29 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Leaver said: As I have said in another thread, how many cases of Corona were officially recorded as death by pneumonia, particularly earlier on in the crisis. I would think not too many deaths or severe (ICU) cases, otherwise leaks like this would be rampant. This is the second I've read to date, the first was from a month or two back in Phuket. It does mean there are likely a lot of infections circulating in the region, but I think everyone knew that already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted March 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2020 Sister inlaw is a ICU nurse in bangkok been told not to talk about the influx tsunami that is sweeping though unchecked until it was to late???? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post geriatrickid Posted March 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2020 Not too many ICU deaths because the elderly are not making it that far. Keep in mind that what we know of as ICU is nearly non existent in the rural and poorer areas. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, jacob29 said: I would think not too many deaths or severe (ICU) cases, otherwise leaks like this would be rampant. This is the second I've read to date, the first was from a month or two back in Phuket. It does mean there are likely a lot of infections circulating in the region, but I think everyone knew that already. Are you taking into account the rural areas? I am talking nation wide. Not much ICU up North and North East. Remember, we can't have anything tarnish Thailand's image as tourist destination. ???? Edited March 27, 2020 by Leaver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob29 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Leaver said: Are you taking into account the rural areas? I am talking nation wide. Not much ICU up North and North East. Sure. I'm only thinking about the tourist hotspots, where the deaths or hospitalization are problematic to hide as family/friends at home would get suspicious when the person drops off the radar. I'm in touch with family daily, they would be protesting loudly if that ceased. Edited March 27, 2020 by blackcab Bold font removed. Please do not modify someone else's post in your quoted reply, either with font or color changes or wording Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, jacob29 said: Sure. I'm only thinking about the tourist hotspots, where the deaths or hospitalization are problematic to hide as family/friends at home would get suspicious when the person drops off the radar. I'm in touch with family daily, they would be protesting loudly if that ceased. So, are you saying that corona virus deaths of Thai's up north don't count? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
URMySunshine Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) Sorry to hear that. It underlines the importance of taking this virus and disease seriously and not think it won't affect me. Now is not the time to be complacent particularly so when nearly all societies are paying a high price in lockdowns. Edited March 27, 2020 by URMySunshine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 38 minutes ago, Leaver said: Are you taking into account the rural areas? I am talking nation wide. Not much ICU up North and North East. Remember, we can't have anything tarnish Thailand's image as tourist destination. ???? Can you give some evidence of the lack of ICU capacity in the North Eastern Hospitals please. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 41 minutes ago, geriatrickid said: Not too many ICU deaths because the elderly are not making it that far. Keep in mind that what we know of as ICU is nearly non existent in the rural and poorer areas. Define ICU capacity please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventenio Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 OMG, I'm getting old and things are getting stranger. I'm reading "The Eyes of Darkness" (OK if free) and now on a thread Death by pneumonia. I know I'm gradually losing the plot, but maybe gradual is the wrong word. I need to find a different "path." 555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 With all of the paranoid variations abounding from the Covid-19 situation it seems so convenient in the pursuance of dramatic interpretations of causes of death that such alternative causes do not actually take an equivalent break. The other prolific causes of death stay unabated in finality but so easily attributed by observation of reported outcome to a popular singular cause ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 all bets are off, there are only so many machines. imo in a short time period private hospitals will be opened to treat the Thais, as they should. Don't get sick and if you isolate you won't get sick or at least you'll greatly affect the odds of getting ill. Otherwise imo you're f***** no matter what insurance you have, you'll end up being treated in the parking lot. If I start drowning in my own fluids I'll just pull my own plug - better than being on a gurney next to a SUV (though it might be useful for shade purposes).. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sapson Posted March 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2020 57 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said: Sister inlaw is a ICU nurse in bangkok been told not to talk about the influx tsunami that is sweeping though unchecked until it was to late???? Absolutely, Thailand had the highest number of Chinese visitors from Wuhan province and yet some of the lowest reported positives and death figures for months. Pinocchio Prayut........... will need a wheel barrow for his nose soon. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dabhand Posted March 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2020 Some interesting stats on ICU capacity in Thailand as compared to other regional countries. This is from 2020 and shows Thailand similar, on a per capita basis, to Singapore and S Kprea. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Number-of-Critical-Care-Beds_tbl1_338520008 As for spread within Thailand. This is an older study from 2014,but shows a fairly even regional spread. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Demonstrate-the-distribution-of-participated-ICUs-divided-by-regions-and-hospital-types_fig1_281930049 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 1 hour ago, geriatrickid said: Not too many ICU deaths because the elderly are not making it that far. Keep in mind that what we know of as ICU is nearly non existent in the rural and poorer areas. The other day, one of the prominent Thai infectious disease doctors, as reported in news here, said he estimated that Thailand overall has only about 100 negative pressure hospital rooms nationwide. We're now up to 1100+ officially confirmed CV cases, more than 900 of them still currently hospitalized, and more than 6600 hospitalized patients under investigation for CV. And it's only just beginning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 53 minutes ago, Ventenio said: OMG, I'm getting old and things are getting stranger. I'm reading "The Eyes of Darkness" (OK if free) and now on a thread Death by pneumonia. I know I'm gradually losing the plot, but maybe gradual is the wrong word. I need to find a different "path." 555 LMAO ! Do you feel the urge to succumb? In which direction? The fatalist addiction and depressive association with either the religious or the pseudo religious factions of monetary seduction? Let me suggest that if you are old then stop on whatever path you are on and take time to look back. . Whatever steps you have taken to where you are now and how you perceive the journey thus far that without deliberate purpose you have done no harm then take moment to consider that having achieved some degree of longevity that you have avoided the myriad of less disclosed but equally dangerous afflictions that exist around us already. If the mortality of Covid-19 was to be considered as one of a prolific number of global diseases that collectively or individually eliminate human lives annually on a scale in excess of Covid-19 why no popular media presentation of that very fact ? Something dangerous is occurring but I am suspicious as to whether it is the organic viral threat overall or the manipulation of social impact. For the moment IMO it is a combination of both . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
URMySunshine Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 In a crisis I can see the rough justice of Thai hospital beds being for Thai people being a triage consideration. Unless you can flash large amounts of cash but enough well connected Thais might be needing them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoNiaw Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 57 minutes ago, sapson said: Absolutely, Thailand had the highest number of Chinese visitors from Wuhan province and yet some of the lowest reported positives and death figures for months. Pinocchio Prayut........... will need a wheel barrow for his nose soon. I've heard similar from people working in hospitals. But not for months, it's only starting to hit big now. I wouldn't mind betting the main source of what's really starting to show here now is Thais coming back from abroad (and not necessarily the 'pee nois' or labouring classes). One case in an office building down the road confirmed yesterday, back from a trip to Korea, went to work, took the BTS, etc. etc. Another example case on Thai Enquirer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mike787 Posted March 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2020 ...death is the change agent...the equalizer. Nobody gets out alive. So don't worry about it, because worrying is betting against yourself. Enjoy thailand. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said: Define ICU capacity please. Here are the number of "beds" across Thailand. Certainly the number of ICU units is significantly less: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hospitals_in_Thailand [edit: I missed @dabhand's very informative post above] Edited March 27, 2020 by timendres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 6 hours ago, from the home of CC said: all bets are off, there are only so many machines. imo in a short time period private hospitals will be opened to treat the Thais, as they should. I saw almost exclusively Thai patients during my last visit to Samitivej. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said: Define ICU capacity please. The number of beds in intensive care rooms/wards. Edited March 28, 2020 by jacko45k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skallywag Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 10 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: The other day, one of the prominent Thai infectious disease doctors, as reported in news here, said he estimated that Thailand overall has only about 100 negative pressure hospital rooms nationwide. We're now up to 1100+ officially confirmed CV cases, more than 900 of them still currently hospitalized, and more than 6600 hospitalized patients under investigation for CV. And it's only just beginning... Only 14 "severe" cases. I assume those are the only ones needing an ICU. Maybe I am daft for believing the DDC here in LOS. but hey, it makes me feel better https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skallywag Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 4 hours ago, timendres said: I saw almost exclusively Thai patients during my last visit to Samitivej. Just 0.003% of the population are foreigners here in LOS (other than Myanmar, Laos, and Cambodian workers). So yes, one sees Thai people, "almost exclusively", literally everywhere! ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Of topic post and reply removed, this is Pattaya Thailand forum not New York USA do no hijack the topic please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 22 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said: Can you give some evidence of the lack of ICU capacity in the North Eastern Hospitals please. How many respirators do you think they have up there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Leaver said: How many respirators do you think they have up there? Why ask a question about a question? Is there any definitive statistic available to demonstrate ICU respiratory intervention capacity in any location in Thailand? Up There? Oh ! The poor lands! <deleted> ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 14 hours ago, jacko45k said: The number of beds in intensive care rooms/wards. Beds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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