Dead train passenger had Covid-19

[snoop1130]

Dead train passenger had Covid-19

By The Nation

 

 

The body of a train passenger found dead in Prachuap Khiri Khan’s Thap Sakae district on Tuesday (March 31) has tested positive for Covid-19 virus.

 

The unnamed 57-year-old man was found dead in front of a restroom after his train from Bangkok to Narathiwat in the far South stopped for a rest break, according to State Railway of Thailand inspector-general Thanaphol Dummanee.

 

The victim had diabetes and was returning from a trip abroad to Pakistan. He had boarded the Bang Sue-Sungai Kolok train on March 30 after a train guard measured his temperature at 36 Celsius.

 

Despite finding no evidence of fever, the guard asked the passenger to rest before travelling as he was suffering from a headache and vomiting. He declined.

 

Tests on the body at Songkhla hospital came back positive for Covid-19 on Wednesday.

 

Eight personnel on the train were sent home for 14 days of self-quarantine while a list of about 10 passengers was sent to the Public Health Ministry.

 

The train has been disinfected and cleaned thoroughly.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30385196

 

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[lazeeboy]

They are testing but from a metre away ????

[marko kok prong]

He reached the end of the line.

[Thunder26]

It looks from the latest news that more and more people are dying outside hospitals because of the virus. It shows how far the numbers are from reality.

[jacob29]

21 minutes ago, Thunder26 said:

It looks from the latest news that more and more people are dying outside hospitals because of the virus. It shows how far the numbers are from reality.

There were other instances like this?

[Davo369]

Sad state of affairs dying on a train of the virus  RIP

[Solidpoo]

*coughs and vomit uncontrollably* security guard: "yea youre fine no fever, come 'er and have a seat with the other passengers" 

 

He returned from pakistan, with a valid health certificate from a doctor. Thats mental, those things are useless!

Edited April 1, 2020 by Solidpoo

[DrTuner]

Ummh... I just watched Contagion again, one of the early dead ones was in a bus. Life imitating art, it seems.

[Soikhaonoiken]

4 hours ago, Solidpoo said:

He returned from pakistan, with a valid health certificate from a doctor. Thats mental, those things are useless!

Reminds me of when you needed a doctors certificate for a driving licence, they just used to ask you how your feeling, and have you any illness, if the answer was I feel great and have no illness, they gave you a certificate, and you paid your 100B on your way out, no examination done, wouldn't surprise me if this practice still continues in other Countries because its all about the money.... 

[Jingthing]

5 hours ago, jacob29 said:

There were other instances like this?

Don't test. Don't know. Obviously there must be cases of people dying at home and in hospitals of common things like pneumonia and without a Covid test it's not a Covid death. Testing in Thailand has been very limited. Iceland it's not. 

[AlexRich]

I’m reading a book about the 1918 pandemic. The author told the story of a man in Cape Town who jumped on a tram for a three mile travel home. On the journey the ticket collector collapsed and died along with three passengers, all in the space of a few minutes. He jumped off early and walked home. It was just influenza, but it was devastating.

[canthai55]

8 hours ago, Thunder26 said:

It looks from the latest news that more and more people are dying outside hospitals because of the virus. It shows how far the numbers are from reality.

Talk about JUMP to conclusions.

So he had C-19. Is that what killed him ? Unknown

I hope like heck I got the virus. Give my body time to develop a resistance. Then I am good to go.

I have no underlying health issues, so will have felt like I had a cold for 1-2 days, then nothing. BFD

People talk about Italy's cases - here is the truth ...

According to an Italian Government Study 99% of their Covid-19 fatalities were already sick and half were diagnosed with 3 or more diseases.

Here are some excerpts from a Bloomberg article on the study:

“The median age of the infected is 63 but most of those who die are older. The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.”

http://thesaker.is/covid-19-derangement-syndrome-a-world-gone-mad/

Edited April 1, 2020 by canthai55

[dinsdale]

31 minutes ago, canthai55 said:

So he had C-19. Is that what killed him ? Unknown

I hope like heck I got the virus.

Just rediculous. 1. He had CCP-Covid-19. This means he was a vector. 2. Healthy (no underlying health conditions) people are dying. 3. If you get this virus does not mean you will not be severely affected or even die. 4. If you get the virus then you are a vector be it if you're symtomatic or asymptomatic.

[RJRS1301]

56 minutes ago, canthai55 said:

The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5.

Italy has one of the largest populations of people over 50 in comparison to many European countries. Rather than relying purely on percentages , one needs to look under figures for further information.

 

[RJRS1301]

The inclusion of the the headache and vomiting, could be indicative of poor blood glucose control, and this may have contributed to his death.

 

 

[Don Mega]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Just rediculous. 1. He had CCP-Covid-19. T

What is CCP-Covid-19 ?

[baansgr]

4 hours ago, Soikhaonoiken said:

Reminds me of when you needed a doctors certificate for a driving licence, they just used to ask you how your feeling, and have you any illness, if the answer was I feel great and have no illness, they gave you a certificate, and you paid your 100B on your way out, no examination done, wouldn't surprise me if this practice still continues in other Countries because its all about the money.... 

BKK clinic in Bang Saray is doing them for 200 baht, check temperature, check pulse, look in ear and look in throat..what's more worrying is the Foreigners getting them think they have been tested and given the all clear for corona

[Moonlover]

54 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

1 hour ago, canthai55 said:

The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5.

 

55 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Italy has one of the largest populations of people over 50 in comparison to many European countries. Rather than relying purely on percentages , one needs to look under figures for further information.

 

An important factor with regards to the high fatalities in Italy is that in that country they have a very high proportion of 3 generation families under one roof. So there is little chance of social isolation for the elderly.

 

Back to this case. Should it not throw doubt on this whole idea of relying on none medical staff using a questionable means of checking temperature to access whether someone likely to be infected. Despite the apparent lack of high temperature, this passenger should not have been allowed to board with the symptoms he was presenting. This whole system is too 'hit and miss'.

[metisdead]

A troll post and the replies have been removed. 

[dinsdale]

13 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

What is CCP-Covid-19 ?

Ask yourself, what is CCP?

[Don Mega]

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Ask yourself, what is CCP?

I replied to myself "I don't know".

[hotchilli]

11 hours ago, Thunder26 said:

It looks from the latest news that more and more people are dying outside hospitals because of the virus. It shows how far the numbers are from reality.

It shows that many Thais are suffering from symptoms but refusing to be tested, either because they don't want to know the truth, just to stubborn to have it done or simply don't have the finances to get tested.,

The real numbers of infected people wandering around I'm sure are staggering!

 

[spidermike007]

He was very sick, and showing major symptoms. There is now video of him getting on the train, and he could barely walk, and was coughing on people without wearing a mask. Officials should be manning every station, and handing out free masks for public transport. He was very sick in Hua Hin, vomiting on the train. Apparently some officials inspected him, and due to a normal temperature, he was allowed to continue his travel. 

 

So, my question is this. Why go to the extent the officials have gone, in shutting down the nations economy, and then allow this kind of inane recklessness to happen? It is public transport. Public transport by it's very nature is forced social gathering. Why not have officials taking precautions? Is this just staggering incompetence? Or just an oversight? Or is this more damage caused by the ridiculously unqualified health minister Anutin? He needs to be replaced yesterday. 

 

 

 

[Dogmatix]

The victim had diabetes and was returning from a trip abroad to Pakistan. He had boarded the Bang Sue-Sungai Kolok train on March 30 after a train guard measured his temperature at 36 Celsius.

 

Despite finding no evidence of fever, the guard asked the passenger to rest before travelling as he was suffering from a headache and vomiting. He declined.

 

You have to wonder about the accuracy of the thermometre used which found that the patient was too cold.  Headache is a sign of a fever, specially if combined with vomiting.  I wonder if there will be an autopsy to determine the cause of death. COVID kills through pneumonia and he probably would have been in too much distress to board the train or even get to the station with that.  

[Dogmatix]

17 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

He was very sick, and showing major symptoms. There is now video of him getting on the train, and he could barely walk, and was coughing on people without wearing a mask. Officials should be manning every station, and handing out free masks for public transport. He was very sick in Hua Hin, vomiting on the train. Apparently some officials inspected him, and due to a normal temperature, he was allowed to continue his travel. 

 

So, my question is this. Why go to the extent the officials have gone, in shutting down the nations economy, and then allow this kind of inane recklessness to happen? It is public transport. Public transport by it's very nature is forced social gathering. Why not have officials taking precautions? Is this just staggering incompetence? Or just an oversight? Or is this more damage caused by the ridiculously unqualified health minister Anutin? He needs to be replaced yesterday. 

 

 

You are right.  It is ridiculous that they put so much faith in their cheapo thermometres. If someone is visibly that sick, even if not in the time of pandemic, the guards should call an ambulance.

[sandyf]

17 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

He was very sick, and showing major symptoms. There is now video of him getting on the train, and he could barely walk, and was coughing on people without wearing a mask. Officials should be manning every station, and handing out free masks for public transport. He was very sick in Hua Hin, vomiting on the train. Apparently some officials inspected him, and due to a normal temperature, he was allowed to continue his travel. 

 

So, my question is this. Why go to the extent the officials have gone, in shutting down the nations economy, and then allow this kind of inane recklessness to happen? It is public transport. Public transport by it's very nature is forced social gathering. Why not have officials taking precautions? Is this just staggering incompetence? Or just an oversight? Or is this more damage caused by the ridiculously unqualified health minister Anutin? He needs to be replaced yesterday. 

 

I think that "staggering incompetence" is a bit strong but there is certainly an indication that those controlling access to public areas should be better informed on what to look for.

At this point in time any unusual symptoms should be questioned. Diabetes is known problem as far as covid-19 is concerned, a 53 year old UK female died in Bali.

[Tropposurfer]

Let’s all remember the Spanish Flu that killed many millions was in 1917-18.

there were NO I repeat NO antibiotics, NO antivirals invented at that time, hence the huge worldwide death rate. 

[spidermike007]

3 minutes ago, sandyf said:

I think that "staggering incompetence" is a bit strong but there is certainly an indication that those controlling access to public areas should be better informed on what to look for.

At this point in time any unusual symptoms should be questioned. Diabetes is known problem as far as covid-19 is concerned, a 53 year old UK female died in Bali.

At no point in the past six years, could the term staggering incompetence be considered a bit strong, or inappropriate, when it comes to the army, and this administration. 

[chickenslegs]

2 hours ago, Don Mega said:

I replied to myself "I don't know".

Me too.

But it could be Chinese Communist Party?

[Dogmatix]

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

It shows that many Thais are suffering from symptoms but refusing to be tested, either because they don't want to know the truth, just to stubborn to have it done or simply don't have the finances to get tested.,

The real numbers of infected people wandering around I'm sure are staggering!

 

I am sure there are people who don't want to know and just hope it will pass, particularly those who are still earning money.  The other equally serious issue is that there is hardly any capacity to test those responsible people who have reason to suspect they could be infected and do want to be tested.  By all accounts, most of those who can can get through hospital switch boards are being told to self isolate at home which they may or may not be able or willing to do.  In Isaan there are only two testing labs in Khon Kaen and Korat.  In the South, there is only one, in Songkhla etc etc.  In the villages there are no testing kits and probably not in the amphur hospitals either. So someone in a village wanting a test is going to have to travel to a provincial hospital and beat down the door to get a test which will probably have to be sent to a lab in a far away city.  Go figure.