RedPill Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, offset said: I would not be surprised to see a 24 hr curfew just over songkran Me either ... that has to happen, I don't see any other way around it. If I read all the posts from fellow posters on here, plus see the social distancing habits of the Thai's. What's there left to wonder or be surprised about? Better prepare for this now and just get through with it. No other way. Also, don't forget to go to the ATM machine and get a bit more cash out ... just in case. And just in case there are holidays and banking branches closed ???? Edited April 6, 2020 by RedPill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, DrTuner said: The source for those daily tests figures? Roser's ourworldindata shows no data for Thailand since 31. March. As I mentioned the data is derived via the only method available at the moment and the one that ourworldindata uses. The spreadsheet is by me entering those numbers from the last couple of days only. I appreciate your points but until or if Thailand ever has a clear method for reporting daily tests then this method is the only we or anyone else in the world including governments and WHO has of getting some insight into the numbers tested in Thailand. A similar situation to when China was in crisis, at least with their numbers although most did not believe them including me, we could get a sense of the trend. Edited April 6, 2020 by Bkk Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmacken306 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 hours ago, kevin612 said: 51 is very impressive, keep bring it down. Anyway, I am satisfied with today’s number. stay safe, everyone. These 51 are most likely people who just feel sick and then they issue the test...... In the USA they have done over 1.5 million via drive-up people want to know and then they have 338k cases 9.6k deaths. Thailand isn't testing unless you pay or you go in sick to a hospital. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, ThailandRyan said: One question, where the heck have you been hiding for the past few weeks to not see that Songkran was canceled awhile back. Of course people will still do what they want in this country so nothing amazes me anymore. When I see someone doing something they should not be doing, and the laws are broken daily I just shake my head. As i said I thought that the organised events were call off so i guess that's the same thing as saying it was cancelled,so I guess I did see that it was cancelled.So have they cancelled the annual holidays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tso310 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, FarFlungFalang said: So the Thai new year holidays are cancelled as well?When did that happen?I thought it was just organised Songkran events where cancelled.Interesting to see if the hols are not cancelled and how the Thai population react to being told they can't go home for the holidays to visit family. Certainly my wife has been told that some of her nephews and a neice who work in Samut Prakan and Chon Buri will not be able to return due to not being allowed to enter Buriram province. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kadilo Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 Traubert go see a quack mate before your face gets stuck in the smiley position. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponder Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, The Engineer said: I am pretty sure you are right with the weather; the pattern is confirmed with other hot countries. Less cases and low death percentage. Unfortunately many negative reactions in the blog again of people who actually have no clue. Comparing figures over the last 80 days of all countries in the world (my new hobby), it is clear that Thailand is reporting as honest as possible, unlike my own country in Netherlands who are unable to measure all suspects. Please see my graph (not including the last figures of today). It is good to see some more scientifically-based responses (although the graphs produced by the statisticians are obviously based on figures supplied by each country, and we can only hope that they are accurate). Looking at this website, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/thailand/, It appears that the daily number of new infections is now dropping below the number of people recovering, so that is heartening and means that the hospitals are not being stretched too much. Let's hope we do not have a relapse; we need to get back to work as soon as possible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tso310 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, jmacken306 said: These 51 are most likely people who just feel sick and then they issue the test...... In the USA they have done over 1.5 million via drive-up people want to know and then they have 338k cases 9.6k deaths. Thailand isn't testing unless you pay or you go in sick to a hospital. There is also a question mark on some of the fast testing kits being trialled. The UK Health Minister said that some kits were very bad with only a 25% success rate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humbug Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: As i said I thought that the organised events were call off so i guess that's the same thing as saying it was cancelled,so I guess I did see that it was cancelled.So have they cancelled the annual holidays? Next weeks holidays are not official as of today, as normally banks and financial markets would be closed, and the next bank holiday is for May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shy coconut Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: So the Thai new year holidays are cancelled as well?When did that happen?I thought it was ju byst organised Songkran events where cancelled.Interesting to see if the hols are not cancelled and how the Thai population react to being told they can't go home for the holidays to visit family. My lady has to work over Songkran, not even days off for the new year. She has, however had her working week cut from 6 to 5 days and only working 10 hours a day. She works in a factory making parts for Aircon units in Pathum Thani, if that makes any difference to other people's experiences. She has a mai bpen rai attitude to having the holidays cancelled, her birthday is on the 14th so the time is particularly poignant for her. Looking at the Facebook posts and links by her friends and family, there doesn't seem to be much talk about Songkran, other than it being the 1st time anyone can remember it being cancelled. I have picked up a lot of anti government posts, especially since the Future forward guy was shut down. Not full on rebellion, just a lot more negative comments than before. Edited April 6, 2020 by shy coconut Additional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, tso310 said: Certainly my wife has been told that some of her nephews and a neice who work in Samut Prakan and Chon Buri will not be able to return due to not being allowed to enter Buriram province. So apart from travel restrictions the actual holidays haven't been cancelled that you're aware of?Also how many people are allowed to be together before it becomes illegal?Is it illegal to sit in a family and friends group to share a meal? Edited April 6, 2020 by FarFlungFalang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, ebean001 said: If china is telling the truth then do as the chinese. Guy on the TV this morning pointed out that China should be banned from any world meetings on Covid - Their lies on deaths and cover ups have previously have killed thousands , and the world simply CANNOT afford to base their data moving forwards on what possibly could be fake again. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, Kadilo said: Traubert go see a quack mate before your face gets stuck in the smiley position. I find it impossible to comment without someone being insulted. So you have to guess what I mean. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 The number of new cases, depends on how many person you test! I you test the whole population, you will find hundreds of thousands, only in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tso310 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, FarFlungFalang said: So apart from travel restrictions the actual holidays haven't been cancelled that you're aware of? On the religious side I the monks will be wailing away as normal. On the water throwing certainly it should be rigorously stopped if only from the severe lack of water in many parts of Isaan. Factories have been closed before the normal Songran exodus but how many I don't know. Don't forget a lot of the workers are bussed from the dormitory areas to the factory so that may have been the reason. It's getting back up to Buriram which does seem to be the problem for those it don't leave a week or so ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 hours ago, champers said: An article in Saturday's Bangkok Post focussed on how much money Thailand's richest had lost because of Covoid 19; it was an awful lot. I expect a reset at the beginning of next month to allow people to spend more; presuming they have any to spend. Malls, restaurants and bars could re-open with some rules about social distancing. I think Thailand will want tourists back in June, from China, Korea and Japan initially. No country should accept anyone from China for the next ten years at least, I bet there will be some countrys that will never learn and Thailand will be the first. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedoc Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Guderian said: Based on even the steady +/- 100 new cases per day figure, there wasn't much justification for the latest threats to ramp up the curfew and various other measures, if we get a few days at the 50 level then there'll be even less. I'm guessing the authorities are in headless chicken mode, as they are in a number of countries, and simply want to be seen to be doing something, anything. As somebody said recently in the UK government, they're basically damned whatever they do. If they turn the screws further on self-isolation then they'll be accused of going overboard if it works and numbers start to decline, while they'll also be accused of not doing enough if it doesn't work and numbers continue to increase. Who'd want to be a politician at the moment? I would, they still get paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) Cases already dropping here. In past four days, Barely 100 new cases two days. 80 new cases two days ago. 51 last 24 hours. Curve is already flattening. That is my interpretation. I predicted a week ago, that the heat would decimate this thing. Within another week or so government will have to admit they vastly over reacted. Government has completely sabotaged their precious tourism industry. Did they over react? I think so, by shutting down the economy. Will they declare personal victory? That is likely. I predict tourism will never recover to where it was before. Better for most expats. But tragic for millions of hard working, earnest Thais of modest means. Edited April 6, 2020 by spidermike007 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kadilo Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, Traubert said: I find it impossible to comment without someone being insulted. So you have to guess what I mean. Yes because what you think is of vital importance to me 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post offset Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said: Cases already dropping here. In past four days, Barely 100 new cases two days. 80 new cases two days ago. 51 last 24 hours. Curve is already flattening. That is my interpretation. I predicted a week ago, that the heat would decimate this thing. Within another week or so government will have to admit they vastly over reacted. Government has completely sabotaged their precious tourism industry. Did they over react? I think so, by shutting down the economy. Will they declare personal victory? That is likely. I predict tourism will never recover to where it was before. Better for most expats. But tragic for millions of hard working, earnest Thais of modest means. I would rather them be wrong by over reacting than do nothing and be wrong 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnarth Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 I like the lower figure true or not someone up top is thinking at last. I just watched a great video of a talk by Bill Gates in 2015 he hits the nail on the head in every way. as far as this virus goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 27 minutes ago, tso310 said: On the religious side I the monks will be wailing away as normal. On the water throwing certainly it should be rigorously stopped if only from the severe lack of water in many parts of Isaan. Factories have been closed before the normal Songran exodus but how many I don't know. Don't forget a lot of the workers are bussed from the dormitory areas to the factory so that may have been the reason. It's getting back up to Buriram which does seem to be the problem for those it don't leave a week or so ago. So apart from the water fights and throwing water at every passing person the real original aspect of Songkran is not cancelled and the merit making and the paying of respect to one's elders if you can get to them will be allowed and the holiday has not been cancelled.Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laza 45 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 5 hours ago, scubascuba3 said: So the 100ish figure was getting too obvious so now its 50ish What is wrong with your head? If you don't like the way things are going .. go home! 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Kadilo said: Hardly surprising they don’t take it serious when they read these numbers reported every day. Precisely the point. I genuinely cannot comprehend why some here dont get it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Laza 45 said: What is wrong with your head? If you don't like the way things are going .. go home! Are you depressed? going stir crazy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Laza 45 Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: Are you depressed? going stir crazy? Not at all.. I'm fine .. I just get <deleted> off by these people always complaining.. if they don't like it here and think this could be better elsewhere then leave.. Check the death rate in the US.. the UK.... Italy, Spain and many other countries.. Thailand is doing well.. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdculture Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Wouldn't it simply take testing everyone to resolve the virus problem? If you test positive you stay home and if you get sicker you go to the hospital. If you test negative off you go to work, to school, to wherever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dogmatix Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) The numbers in Thailand are absolutely marvelous. It seems to be one of the most successful countries in combating the virus. I am surprised that other countries like the US and the UK are not coming here to study the Thai model for controlling the virus. They are wasting their time looking at Germany, Korea, Singapore and Taiwan. While the UK lamented 600 deaths yesterday alone, Thailand with a similar population only has 23 in total. The winning model seems to be: 1) as soon as you know an epidemic has started in another country, let in as many tourists from that country as you possibly can and particularly from the area that is the epicentre of the epidemic. 2) Do nothing to prepare extra medical supplies, PPE, ICUs, hospital beds, ventilators. 3) Blame dirty farang tourists for bringing in a virus of Chinese origin for not washing often enough and for not wearing masks. 4) Delay social distancing measures as long as possible. 5) Have the army organise a super spreader boxing match after social distancing measures have been introduced. 6) Organise mass exoduses of poor workers and foreign migrants from Bangkok and other cities on crowded long distance buses. 7) Do nothing about quarantining arriving passengers for weeks. Then quarantine some without warning by packing them on to crowded buses and driving them for three hours to the navel base in Sattahip where they are packed into barracks three to a room. 8 Do as little testing as possible to avoid the numbers of new cases being too frightening. 9) Report new cases as people having had contact with infected persons but do nothing effective in tracing contacts or persuading them to quarantine or even those testing positive. 10) Do nothing to ramp up mass testing capabilities. 11) Have no obvious exit strategy. Governor Cuomo and Boris Johnson should study this model and it is guaranteed they would kick themselves for not having thought of these measures for themselves. They could have saved thousands of lives. Edited April 6, 2020 by Dogmatix 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, thirdculture said: Wouldn't it simply take testing everyone to resolve the virus problem? If you test positive you stay home and if you get sicker you go to the hospital. If you test negative off you go to work, to school, to wherever. Indeed, in lieu of a cure or vaccine, mass testing into the millions is going to be the only way to exit the lock downs without having further waves of the epidemic. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, thirdculture said: Wouldn't it simply take testing everyone to resolve the virus problem? If you test positive you stay home and if you get sicker you go to the hospital. If you test negative off you go to work, to school, to wherever. Yes that would be the ideal solution but almost impossible to do. It would involve testing 60 million people and testing/isolating them at the same time. Otherwise a week later someone who did test negative could get infected and start the cycle again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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