1 hour ago, Peterw42 said:

Why is it that "the most powerful nation on Earth" isnt doing a great job fighting the virus, when smaller less powerful countries are doing ok ?

 

Seems the power doesn't equate to fighting a virus.

 

Maybe shoot the messenger and the world wont notice.

The great and "powerful" Oz will hide behind the curtain of money, good world democratic process, wonder why he never joined the diplomatic corps.

There needs to an INDEPENDENT investigation, untainted by bias, open and transparent  processes, and reporting to international court of justice, well removed from the great and powerful Oz

 

1 hour ago, kevin612 said:

The Chinese figures are way too small. WHO should change the name to CHO. Stay safe, everyone.

Agreed.  The WHO senior guys won't even mention the world 'Taiwan' in their recent interview and hung up on the interviewer.  WHO is brown-nosing the CCP and is biased.

Typical - blame others for his own failings.
 

Plenty of other countries in the world figured this thing out faster than Trump and are well ahead of the curve now as a result. I guess their leaders weren’t out playing golf and doing campaign rallies - but instead taking this threat seriously when they should of. 
 

Still, his cheer squad loves the move. 

Even though it's true that most of these international organizations are rather inept, the one can't help but notice that Trump seems to believe that everybody on this planet represents something bad. 

He never seems to look around his "garden". 

 

50 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

All that is needed to get Trump out of office is a reasonable alternative. So far that doesn't exist.  Come on man China isn't out to eat our lunch, China is our friends. You wanna do some push ups or go out back and I beat you like a drum, punk? Do ya punk?

 

That's good ole Joe.

Ok, so you mean that this is the best USA can produce at present time, or that the american people are totally unable to make the right choice?

However, whatever you mean that´s a really sad reality you are presenting.

49 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

That's all the libs are capable of right now. Maybe try doing something similar on your side?

Yes, that is the feeling of the Trump fanbase, the rest of the world against us.

1 hour ago, Peterw42 said:

I expect there will be T.H.O (Trump Health organisation) in the very near future. And it will be fully funded.

Very possibly staffed by graduates of Trump University. At least we will know the value of their qualifications.

 

It will need a big headquarters complex - New York would be a suitable location - does anyone know who might have suitable real estate their?

 

Their will be a considerable requirement for conferences and meetings and so on. Underutilised golfing resorts are ideal, does anyone know...

 

Their will be a need for a bright young person of significant talent to head it up, preferably someone with close ties (kin maybe) to a major world statesman, does anyone know...

Hey he’s gotta blame someone or something because we all know even the trump supporters know he will never ever ever take responsibility he’s a weak little baby man imo he’s just got enough money or the illusion of to get away with it

1 hour ago, kevin612 said:

The Chinese figures are way too small. WHO should change the name to CHO. Stay safe, everyone.

And why do you think the numbers are too small?

 

But never mind, same discussion as before, never any real arguments, only suppositions.

2 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

The voice of insanity...

 

Can't get away from it;omnipresent,ever screeching,perseverating and exhibiting that true hallmark of a demagogue of the twitter age-"the arrogance of ignorance".

are you ok .... 

13 minutes ago, steven100 said:

are you ok .... 

I'm fine but thanks for asking-err..you are a true scholar and a gentleman..????

Isaac Asimov pretty much summed up Trump and his supporters

 

"The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” 

3 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Amen. Time for qualified and competent individuals to take over running the WHO, otherwise just disband it. The UN too while we are at it. So great to see a leader brave enough to tackle this monstrosity, knowing it's hardly going to win him any Nobel gongs or praise from MSM. Great job Trump!!

Yes.  It is a very important time to have "qualified and competent" leadership!

This is the advice the WHO have on their website at the moment and gave out on the 6th January 2020

Looks like Trump has realised how incompetent or corrupt they are

 

Pneumonia of unknown cause – China

Disease outbreak news
5 January 2020

On 31 December 2019, the WHO China Country Office was informed of cases of pneumonia of unknown etiology (unknown cause) detected in Wuhan City, Hubei Province of China. As of 3 January 2020, a total of 44 patients with pneumonia of unknown etiology have been reported to WHO by the national authorities in China. Of the 44 cases reported, 11 are severely ill, while the remaining 33 patients are in stable condition. According to media reports, the concerned market in Wuhan was closed on 1 January 2020 for environmental sanitation and disinfection.

The causal agent has not yet been identified or confirmed. On 1 January 2020, WHO requested further information from national authorities to assess the risk.

National authorities report that all patients are isolated and receiving treatment in Wuhan medical institutions. The clinical signs and symptoms are mainly fever, with a few patients having difficulty in breathing, and chest radiographs showing invasive lesions of both lungs.

According to the authorities, some patients were operating dealers or vendors in the Huanan Seafood market. Based on the preliminary information from the Chinese investigation team, no evidence of significant human-to-human transmission and no health care worker infections have been reported.

Public Health Response

National authorities have reported the following response measures:

• One hundred and twenty-one close contacts have been identified and are under medical observation;
• The follow-up of close contacts is ongoing;
• Pathogen identification and the tracing of the cause are underway;
• Wuhan Municipal Health Commission carried out active case finding, and retrospective investigations have been completed;
• Environmental sanitation and further hygiene investigations are under way.

WHO is closely monitoring the situation and is in close contact with national authorities in China.

WHO risk assessment

There is limited information to determine the overall risk of this reported cluster of pneumonia of unknown etiology. The reported link to a wholesale fish and live animal market could indicate an exposure link to animals. The symptoms reported among the patients are common to several respiratory diseases, and pneumonia is common in the winter season; however, the occurrence of 44 cases of pneumonia requiring hospitalization clustered in space and time should be handled prudently.

Wuhan city, with a population of 19 million, is the capital city of Hubei province, with a population of 58 million people. WHO has requested further information on the laboratory tests performed and the differential diagnoses considered.

WHO advice

Based on information provided by national authorities, WHO’s recommendations on public health measures and surveillance of influenza and severe acute respiratory infections still apply.

WHO does not recommend any specific measures for travellers. In case of symptoms suggestive of respiratory illness either during or after travel, travellers are encouraged to seek medical attention and share travel history with their healthcare provider.

WHO advises against the application of any travel or trade restrictions on China based on the current information available on this event.

For more information:

• Infection prevention and control of epidemic-and pandemic prone acute respiratory infections in health care, WHO guidelines:
• Wuhan Municipal Health Commission briefing on the pneumonia epidemic situation, 31 December 2019 (in Mandarin):
• Wuhan Municipal Health Commission briefing on the pneumonia epidemic situation 3 January 2020 (in Mandarin):

Never mind all this.

I'm voting for the Tiger King from now on.

Never HIS fault of course.

31 minutes ago, Patong2 said:

This is the advice the WHO have on their website at the moment and gave out on the 6th January 2020

Looks like Trump has realised how incompetent or corrupt they are

 

Pneumonia of unknown cause – China

Disease outbreak news
5 January 2020

On 31 December 2019, the WHO China Country Office was informed of cases of pneumonia of unknown etiology (unknown cause) detected in Wuhan City, Hubei Province of China. As of 3 January 2020, a total of 44 patients with pneumonia of unknown etiology have been reported to WHO by the national authorities in China. Of the 44 cases reported, 11 are severely ill, while the remaining 33 patients are in stable condition. According to media reports, the concerned market in Wuhan was closed on 1 January 2020 for environmental sanitation and disinfection.

The causal agent has not yet been identified or confirmed. On 1 January 2020, WHO requested further information from national authorities to assess the risk.

National authorities report that all patients are isolated and receiving treatment in Wuhan medical institutions. The clinical signs and symptoms are mainly fever, with a few patients having difficulty in breathing, and chest radiographs showing invasive lesions of both lungs.

According to the authorities, some patients were operating dealers or vendors in the Huanan Seafood market. Based on the preliminary information from the Chinese investigation team, no evidence of significant human-to-human transmission and no health care worker infections have been reported.

Public Health Response

National authorities have reported the following response measures:

• One hundred and twenty-one close contacts have been identified and are under medical observation;
• The follow-up of close contacts is ongoing;
• Pathogen identification and the tracing of the cause are underway;
• Wuhan Municipal Health Commission carried out active case finding, and retrospective investigations have been completed;
• Environmental sanitation and further hygiene investigations are under way.

WHO is closely monitoring the situation and is in close contact with national authorities in China.

WHO risk assessment

There is limited information to determine the overall risk of this reported cluster of pneumonia of unknown etiology. The reported link to a wholesale fish and live animal market could indicate an exposure link to animals. The symptoms reported among the patients are common to several respiratory diseases, and pneumonia is common in the winter season; however, the occurrence of 44 cases of pneumonia requiring hospitalization clustered in space and time should be handled prudently.

Wuhan city, with a population of 19 million, is the capital city of Hubei province, with a population of 58 million people. WHO has requested further information on the laboratory tests performed and the differential diagnoses considered.

WHO advice

Based on information provided by national authorities, WHO’s recommendations on public health measures and surveillance of influenza and severe acute respiratory infections still apply.

WHO does not recommend any specific measures for travellers. In case of symptoms suggestive of respiratory illness either during or after travel, travellers are encouraged to seek medical attention and share travel history with their healthcare provider.

WHO advises against the application of any travel or trade restrictions on China based on the current information available on this event.

For more information:

• Infection prevention and control of epidemic-and pandemic prone acute respiratory infections in health care, WHO guidelines:
• Wuhan Municipal Health Commission briefing on the pneumonia epidemic situation, 31 December 2019 (in Mandarin):
• Wuhan Municipal Health Commission briefing on the pneumonia epidemic situation 3 January 2020 (in Mandarin):

Can't find it on their website, but it could be there.

 

But you really think a January 5 overview has any relevance? I would say their end of January warning for a worldwide health emergency is much more important, even though quite a few world leaders were still playing it down at that point, some even continued doing so till 45 days after that advice.

Appalling decision by Trump. Health experts reacted with horror to the news. What kind of man will stop funding during a pandemic crisis. US takes another knock from their global leadership role. Meanwhile UK responded with additional funds to WHO to fight the pandemic. Well done U.K.  

The United States has now become the laughing stock of the world because of one man and millions of people who support him.

 

It would all be just a laugh if this individual was not dangerous.

 

He is very dangerous.

 

Rooster

41 minutes ago, Patong2 said:

This is the advice the WHO have on their website at the moment and gave out on the 6th January 2020

Looks like Trump has realised how incompetent or corrupt they are

 

Pneumonia of unknown cause – China

Disease outbreak news
5 January 2020

You do realize that this is how science works?

 

On December 31 Chinese authorities alerted WHO about a string of pneumonia-like cases in Wuhan. At the time there were no deaths. 

 

1 Jan - WHO started planning just in case it got bigger

 

5 Jan - WHO put out a report on what they knew about the virus at that time

 

10 Jan - They put out another report, updating the information based on what they knew at that time and a technical guideline on how to deal with the virus

 

During this time - Trump was playing golf and brushing it off. You see experts work on facts that are available and make judgements. Idiots think they are infallible and always right.

 

 

13 minutes ago, PremiumLane said:

49 minutes ago, Patong2 said:

This is the advice the WHO have on their website at the moment and gave out on the 6th January 2020

Looks like Trump has realised how incompetent or corrupt they are

Please show PROOF of the corruption, and incompetence.

WHO notified what they knew at the time. Published what they knew. Just Because POTUS was unable to understand/comprehend or ask for advice , does not make WHO responsible, unless incompetence is by osmosis from POTUS

 

Apologies in advance to PremiumLane you published facts from WHO, no idea why your nae got linked to post I am responding to

18 minutes ago, PremiumLane said:

You do realize that this is how science works?

 

On December 31 Chinese authorities alerted WHO about a string of pneumonia-like cases in Wuhan. At the time there were no deaths. 

 

1 Jan - WHO started planning just in case it got bigger

 

5 Jan - WHO put out a report on what they knew about the virus at that time

 

10 Jan - They put out another report, updating the information based on what they knew at that time and a technical guideline on how to deal with the virus

 

During this time - Trump was playing golf and brushing it off. You see experts work on facts that are available and make judgements. Idiots think they are infallible and always right.

 

 

During this time - Trump was playing golf and brushing it off, and he kept that up for more than 2 months. You see experts work on facts that are available and make judgements. Idiots think they are infallible and always right.

2 hours ago, stevenl said:

And why do you think the numbers are too small?

 

But never mind, same discussion as before, never any real arguments, only suppositions.

Gullible much?????    I have 5 water buffalo that need immediate heart transplants. 

5 minutes ago, RoadWarrior371 said:

Gullible much?????    I have 5 water buffalo that need immediate heart transplants. 

Yes, resort to nonsense if you have nothing on the topic. Just a pity your argumentation is missing.

He urgently needs to line up some enemies for the hard of thinking to focus upon. Too late to start a war. Can't have a go at the Jews.........I know WHO.

7 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Amen. Time for qualified and competent individuals to take over running the WHO, otherwise just disband it. The UN too while we are at it. So great to see a leader brave enough to tackle this monstrosity, knowing it's hardly going to win him any Nobel gongs or praise from MSM. Great job Trump!!

Do you just get your posts straight from Republican HQ?

"So great to see a leader brave enough to tackle this monstrosity"

You just parrot Trump propaganda. Honestly it is embarrassing.

2 hours ago, PremiumLane said:

NASA = globalist LOL that is the funniest thing I have read in a while, oh wait, you said NATO too.... Jesus wept!

You must admit that he is very good at doing comedy...????

This is tRump deflecting again. I trust any low level scientist in the WHO over anything tRump says, EVER! He has mishandled this from the start by denying, deflecting, and mishandling the response. He has hunches, and we watch the people in the USA die. When will  you sheep stop listening to this fool and just watch his actions. He takes no responsibility for anything, and tries to take credit for most everything. Probably including the sun coming up each morning. I hate that sociopathic lying POS.

5 hours ago, simon43 said:

Agreed.  The WHO senior guys won't even mention the world 'Taiwan' in their recent interview and hung up on the interviewer.  WHO is brown-nosing the CCP and is biased.

The $64,000 questions, I think, are (a) how many well-stuffed brown envelopes have been observed by Swiss postal workers passing through their hands since the start of the year en route from the Chinese Embassy in Bern to the WHO HQ in Geneva; and (b) by how much this supply will be stepped up over coming months in order to make good the USA funding shortfall.

3 minutes ago, OJAS said:

The $64,000 questions, I think, are (a) how many well-stuffed brown envelopes have been observed by Swiss postal workers passing through their hands since the start of the year en route from the Chinese Embassy in Bern to the WHO HQ in Geneva; and (b) by how much this supply will be stepped up over coming months in order to make good the USA funding shortfall.

I mean, for all the noise the MAGA crowd make about Chinese influence, all the have done with this move is allowed for the Chinese to increase, not lessen their influence.

 

And as we see here, the MAGA crowd cheer it on from the sidelines, a bit like turkey's cheering for thanksgiving.