1 hour ago, EricTh said:

True, it is easier to get PR in Singapore.

 

But problem with Singapore is that you have to live in those crowded small government flats (with nasty neighbours) and Singaporeans are known for being demanding and strict. Not a good place for retirement.

 

So true. It can be quite a challenge to some, to put up with the nuances of Singaporean culture. Some can hack it, some can't. On the upside, everything works - public transport and all, it's a relatively safe city and dollar-for-dollar, beer is cheap! It is a good place to be in if one has a good job in one of the many regional offices that have set up shop in SGP but like you said, it is not really a place in which to retire.

 

I got mine fairly easily about nine years ago.

 

From what I know about it, you probably won't be considered if you are not top management or company director on a decent salary at a company that the Thais recognise as beneficial to the country and economy.

 

Just having your own company running a bar or a restaurant etc., three years on the same visa with work permit and paying tax for three years isn't enough to cut it. 

 

Happy for anyone to prove me wrong here.

If the junta wants an FTA with the EU, granting PR status for EU citizens married to a Thai will be a MUST condition. This is just a basic human right.

3 hours ago, Jane Dough said:

My Thai PR gives me right of abode, funny but I value that.

 

And more amazing still, I would actually prefer to live in Thailand rather than Australia.

 

Si Thanya nuthouse here I come!

 

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A right of abode, not as much as your Australian Citizenship, you see your PR can be revoked, so don't be disillusioned about that, yes, highly unlikely, but it can, as opposed to your Australian Citizenship which can't if you were born in Australia, that said, I know which one has more weight. But good for you if it makes you happy, just don't forget to get your re-entry visa when out of the country, as that is another way it can be revoked.

 

As for living living here Vs Australia, yes each to their own, it's all about affordability for me. I live in the bush, so Thailand is out of my way, even though I am in Thailand, my house is my castle, I am within the castle walls, when out and about, I do what I have to do and I return.

 

Beaches are polluted, the air is polluted, very little hygiene, Dr's no comparison to Australian Dr's, unless you visit a large University Hospital or Private Hospital, the "democratically" elected government, well I won't go there, corruption, immigration, just some of my points.

 

But like I said, it works both ways, I pay a fee of 1,900 baht a year to get an extension, they get a spend of about a mil baht a year, I get a place to stay, they get money contributed into their economy as little as it is, I know who the winner is.

Edited April 16, 20206 yr by 4MyEgo

2 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

 

3 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

Why would I even bother, it offers me nothing, I have Citizenship in my own country which is worth it's weight in gold.

PR is not citizenship. And it’s not true that it doesn’t offer you anything. You don’t need a visa for example. 

Read my post above.

2 hours ago, yankee99 said:

fwiw Citizenship based on marriage and employment only takes 3-4 years and cost under 5000 baht

Feel free to read the above two posts, noting the below, if you were not born here, and got Citizenship, it can be revoked.

 

The 2017 Constitution, which outranks all other statutory laws, is less ambivalent than the Nationality Act and further reinforces the point that the fugitives' Thai nationality cannot be revoked, unless they were not Thai from birth.

      In view of the many racetial comments from Thai top knobs recently, this article is pure indication its just the money their after, all long term residence foreigners, who add to the Thai economy, get the middle finger, when it comes to the push.

3 hours ago, cornishcarlos said:

Cheaper than getting PR for the wife in U.K and the Life In U.K test is ridiculous, have a go at it ????

Just tried it and scraped by with a pass at 75%. Ridiculous is the word - who the hell knows what the national flower for Wales is, or in what decade abortion law reforms were passed?

 

A better indicator of assimilation would be questions about Eastenders and Coronation Street, The Beatles, English food, Lady Di and football managers. And instead of having to sing the Thai national anthem like here, they should treat the panel to a hearty rendition of "Knees Up Mother Brown"... 

2 hours ago, EricTh said:

True, it is easier to get PR in Singapore.

Relatively yes. One friend is trying to get it now and the "Singapore Core" hidden policy is fighting back hard.

4 hours ago, dcsw53 said:

Unless they change the existing rules I can't see the queue even reaching the door, and that is with 2 metre social distancing.
Another empty gesture to try and make news.

One day they say that Falang who want to come Thailand must apply 1 month in advance and must be 2 weeks in quarantine on arrival - the next day they invite Falang to apply for permanent residence ....

 

???? why bipolarity came to my mind ...

Edited April 16, 20206 yr by ttrd

44 minutes ago, outsider said:

I thought they wanted foreigners out.

But they want their money in. Unfortunately for them, some can't be separated easily from their cash and they need to allow the dirty farangs in to squeeze them dry.

3 hours ago, baansgr said:

I think many including myself would be happy to pay a considerable sum for residency or citizenship....without the need for three years working etc...

And the (quite old...) news about the (revived) "Elite" system didn't reach you yet, is it? Or is it that the "considerable sum" mylord  would be happy to pay is below the odd million or two...?

...To be allowed to spend swats of money in the Thai enconomy every year, and possibly support a couple of Thai families, sick buffalo included!?

When there would be a logic (no, there isn't, I know, it doesn't fit into the local "psyche"), the Thai State should rather yearly return xx% money to "longstay" foreigners based on records of local spendings, ...as a big thank you, instead of making the life in Thailand of these bonafide(!) logtime(!) friends(!) hard and intricate, with a huge trickbox full of turpitudes to penalise them at all possible opportunities! 

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Thaivisa notes that applying for PR can be a long, quite expensive, time consuming, document filled adventure and there are many hoops to jump through. 

and if you don't live in CM or Bangkok ................ what do they say?

 

Cannot!  ???? LOL

4 hours ago, Liverpoolfan said:

So does this mean that foreigners who are married with families and who aren't employed can apply to become a Permanent Resident?

 

Or is this just business as usual?

Once again, the way it's written is about as clear as mud.

I think someone called Jessie J had a song about it!!!! "It's all about the money, money........" ????????????????????????????????

Bloody he'll... I couldn't even get past the first hurdle. Paying the fee.. 

4 hours ago, Assurancetourix said:

Too late ..Regarding the farang; they relocate home
So they want to speed up the process that will make Thailand a Chinese province

 

That was achieved a long time ago

2 hours ago, EricTh said:

True, it is easier to get PR in Singapore.

 

But problem with Singapore is that you have to live in those crowded small government flats (with nasty neighbours) and Singaporeans are known for being demanding and strict. Not a good place for retirement.

Not sure where people get their info from. Lived in Singapore for 20 years, 15 years as PR. Never lived in one of those 'crowded small government flats'. In fact, I'm not allowed to purchase an HDB flat and there are quotas limiting how many foreigners (including PRs) can rent such flats. I've only ever lived in condos and I don't know anyone renting an HDB flat (they are government subsidised flats designed to help Singaporeans own their homes). The problem is not what you say, it's that everything is so damn expensive … and crowded. Not a place to relax. Would be like moving to Manhattan to retire.

p.s. it may be 'easier' to get PR in Singapore than Thailand--I'm not sure--but it's very hard these days 

53 minutes ago, Yadon Toploy said:

From what I know about it, you probably won't be considered if you are not top management or company director on a

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decent salary

at a company that the Thais recognise as beneficial to the country and economy.

What is a decent salary?  Roughly please.

And medical exam means what? Existing conditions not accepted or what are they looking for? They need to make it a bit easier but it is a step in the right direction... I guess. 

Who’d want to be a permanent resident of a Chinese province ?  Fast forward 10 years ... 

5 hours ago, ezzra said:

Nicely said but nothing new here... but when it comes to the nitty gritty, there will be many hoops to jump though... nothing is ever easy for  foeighners in this country when it comes to PR and citizenship status...

Unless you are a foreign female marrying a Thai man. Then, it's pretty straightforward. Sexism, discrimination?  I think so. ????

Really?

1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said:

A right of abode, not as much as your Australian Citizenship, you see your PR can be revoked, so don't be disillusioned about that, yes, highly unlikely, but it can, as opposed to your Australian Citizenship which can't if you were born in Australia, that said, I know which one has more weight. But good for you if it makes you happy, just don't forget to get your re-entry visa when out of the country, as that is another way it can be revoked.

 

As for living living here Vs Australia, yes each to their own, it's all about affordability for me. I live in the bush, so Thailand is out of my way, even though I am in Thailand, my house is my castle, I am within the castle walls, when out and about, I do what I have to do and I return.

 

Beaches are polluted, the air is polluted, very little hygiene, Dr's no comparison to Australian Dr's, unless you visit a large University Hospital or Private Hospital, the "democratically" elected government, well I won't go there, corruption, immigration, just some of my points.

 

But like I said, it works both ways, I pay a fee of 1,900 baht a year to get an extension, they get a spend of about a mil baht a year, I get a place to stay, they get money contributed into their economy as little as it is, I know who the winner is.

PR is not the be all and end all, but its better than the alternative visas. I am sure most people with PR also have other options like you have, no one gets PR and suddenly chucks everything from other countries in the bin. Its a nice to have in you can get it and alleviates any visa headaches forever. does not mean i can not, or would not move away from Thailand if i wanted.

 

I work here, am eligible for PR, so what is the point in not doing it?

Jokes are coming faster than the real testing numbers 55555 ... Dirty Falang Money Wanted ... Think they have already shot themselves in the foot

This could be good news in the future. 

Not a chance with this ridiculous value in the baht! Bring in beer money is about the limit. 

Absolutely inept reporting of another news outlets inept reporting. Have the rules changed since there is no mention of work permit?  How about doing some fact checking before printing <deleted>!

Quote:-

"welcomes foreign investors and people with families" 

I personally believe this is specific to the Chinese who will invest in the bars, restaurants, hotels, condos, shops etc. that have closed, or are in financial difficulties, due to the virus lock-down. Traditionally, they will bring their families with them. Maybe casinos on the horizon?? 

Well, espicially the last six years or so we have seen what that welcome means and as far as I can see, the thai gouvernment has totally missundertood the word welcome. 

Hi. No need to get excited guys as I think that an error in translation has been made.

 

What it should have said was:

Permanent residence: Thailand welcomes foreign investors and people with money.