Thai govt and Immigration confirm second visa amnesty - no need to do 90 day reports or extend visas

[DrJack54]

2 minutes ago, jackdd said:

That's what they do. They just call it "visa", because that's how they always call it in English.

Beyond boring broken record. 

[FruitPudding]

But extensions based on family, work and such are not covered, right?

 

Still need to extend at immigration?

 

What about those teachers, for example, who have just recently stopped working but are still here. Lol.

Edited April 22, 2020 by FruitPudding

[varun]

Good call - hopefully, the various immigration offices will all comply with this latest update - TiT

[Max69xl]

6 hours ago, ivor bigun said:

So on Aug the first do we all have to go and get our ninety day?

You are free to do your 90 days reports online or in person. 

[jackdd]

2 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

But extensions based on family, work and such are not covered, right?

 

Still need to extend at immigration?

 

What about those teachers,, who have just recently stopped working but are still here. Lol.

Is this picture really so difficult to understand?

No need to extend visa

 

[Max69xl]

14 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

But extensions based on family, work and such are not covered, right?

 

Still need to extend at immigration?

 

What about those teachers, for example, who have just recently stopped working but are still here. Lol.

Retirement/marriage/dependent-extensions are not covered in the amnesty. Teachers are of course covered if they can't leave.

Edited April 22, 2020 by Max69xl

[jackdd]

2 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

Retirement/marriage/dependent-extensions are not covered in the amnesty. Teachers are of course covered if the can't leave.

You should inform Immigration Bureau about this, they tell people calling 1178 that they are covered.

Also better inform the chief of Phuket immigration, he also confirmed this.

You don't want them giving people wrong information, right?

Edited April 22, 2020 by jackdd

[Max69xl]

Just now, jackdd said:

Is this picture really so difficult to understand?

No need to extend visa

 

The picture doesn't mention for example one year extensions. A lot of people don't know the difference between a one year extension and a visa.

[FruitPudding]

2 minutes ago, jackdd said:

Is this picture really so difficult to understand?

No need to extend visa

 

There is plenty of discussion on this thread where people are saying it is NOT covered.

 

Probably because the last one (up until April 30) did not cover such immigrants, but only tourists and the like.

[Max69xl]

1 minute ago, jackdd said:

You should inform Immigration Bureau about this, they tell people calling 1178 that they are covered.

Also better inform the chief of Phuket immigration, he also confirmed this.

You don't want them giving people wrong information, right?

I don't need to give anyone any info. That's not my job. What I said is how it officially works,and my local immigration office knows that.

[Max69xl]

Just now, FruitPudding said:

There is plenty of discussion on this thread where people are saying it is NOT covered.

 

Probably because the last one (up until April 30) did not cover such immigrants, but only tourists and the like.

The new amnesty is exactly same as the last one. Nothing has been changed. 

[cnxnicho]

8 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

The picture doesn't mention for example one year extensions. A lot of people don't know the difference between a one year extension and a visa.

Exactly visas NOT extensions,  really it's not difficult to understand

Edited April 22, 2020 by cnxnicho
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[FruitPudding]

3 minutes ago, cnxnicho said:

Exactly visas NOT extensions

So people on tourist visas don't need to extend before they run out, but people on Non Imm visas still need to extend as normal?

[jackdd]

5 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

The picture doesn't mention for example one year extensions. A lot of people don't know the difference between a one year extension and a visa.

Immigration commonly calls "permission to stay" a visa in their english texts, this one is not different.

Everybody calls it "visa extension", but actually there is no way to extend a visa. You can only extend your permission to stay which you got from a visa. It doesn't matter if the permission of stay was just issued to you, or if you extended it since ten years. You don't need to extend your permission to stay, it's automatically extended until 31st July.

 

Confirmed by 1178:

21 minutes ago, bkkguy1970 said:

I just got off the phone from the Immigration Hotline 1178. 

 

I said that I originally had a Non-Imm O visa and have been doing annual retirement extensions for the last 10 years and my most recent 12 month permission to stay is about to expire and I asked am I covered by the amnesty announcement

 

the response was a clear yes - the annual retirement extensions are covered by the amnesty announcement - automatic extension of permission to stay to 31 July, no fine, no overstay, procedure for next extension to be announced close to July 31

 

Confirmed by the Phuket immigration chief:

https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-immigration-confirms-automatic-visa-extension-applies-to-all-visa-types-75795.php

 

6 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

I don't need to give anyone any info.

Then better stop giving wrong information to the people here.

[Max69xl]

4 minutes ago, cnxnicho said:

Exactly visas NOT extensions

That's the problem,the terminology. 

[Max69xl]

1 minute ago, FruitPudding said:

So people on tourist visas don't need to extend before they run out, but people on Non Imm visas still need to extend as normal?

If your visa/permission to stay expired March 26 or later, you're covered by the amnesty. 1 year extensions has to be done same as before. 

[Siameaze]

I will be submitting my annual extension of stay based on retirement using >65k monthly income at Udon Thani before May 26.

I believe I will have all the necessary documents (e.g. Bank Book with FTT deposit recording)with the possible exception of the letter from Bangkok Bank. Does anyone have an example of a letter that has been accepted by Immigtation in a successful renewal ( preferably by Udon Thani Immigration). I want to be able to show an example to Bangkok Bank where my direct deposit account is held to smooth the process in getting that document.

Thanks for your help on this

[flyingsaucersarereal]

I just did a walk in 90 day report in Udon 2 days ago. Is this for the whole country or just certain immigration offices that you don't have to do a 90 day report????

[jackdd]

Just now, flyingsaucersarereal said:

I just did a walk in 90 day report in Udon 2 days ago. Is this for the whole country or just certain immigration offices that you don't have to do a 90 day report????

The whole country. You can still do it, but you don't have to.

[Max69xl]

11 minutes ago, jackdd said:

Immigration commonly calls "permission to stay" a visa in their english texts, this one is not different.

Everybody calls it "visa extension", but actually there is no way to extend a visa. You can only extend your permission to stay which you got from a visa. It doesn't matter if the permission of stay was just issued to you, or if you extended it since ten years. You don't need to extend your permission to stay, it's automatically extended until 31st July.

 

Confirmed by 1178:

 

Confirmed by the Phuket immigration chief:

https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-immigration-confirms-automatic-visa-extension-applies-to-all-visa-types-75795.php

 

Then better stop giving wrong information to the people here.

My info is 100% correct. It's not my fault you don't understand the amnesty. Get your facts straight before you complain. FYI,Phuket immigration didn't come up with the amnesty.

Edited April 22, 2020 by Max69xl

[jamesmith]

I will go to the immigration to do it, if they say no need at that time, it will be good for me. I don,t want to do it later and they say to me it is expired, I need to be fined

 

[Max69xl]

7 minutes ago, flyingsaucersarereal said:

I just did a walk in 90 day report in Udon 2 days ago. Is this for the whole country or just certain immigration offices that you don't have to do a 90 day report????

If everyone skips the 90 days reports,you can imagine what will happen when immigration tell people they have to do the report as soon as possible when the amnesty is over. 

[Max69xl]

7 minutes ago, jamesmith said:

I will go to the immigration to do it, if they say no need at that time, it will be good for me. I don,t want to do it later and they say to me it is expired, I need to be fined

 

You won't be fined as long as you're covered by the amnesty. Don't worry so much. 

[cnxnicho]

8 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

My info is 100% correct. It's not my fault you don't understand the amnesty. Get your facts straight before you complain. FYI,Phuket immigration didn't come up with the amnesty.

Agree totally and the Phuket article makes no mention of retirement/ marriage extensions, the amnesty covers visa extensions for foreigners here temporarily only.

[ubonjoe]

2 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

If everyone skips the 90 days reports,you can imagine what will happen when immigration tell people they have to do the report as soon as possible when the amnesty is over. 

What makes think they would do it that way?

It think they will have fixed date or say those that had them due in April do them by a certain date and then May, June and July do them by a certain date.

Or the best way would be to state the report is due 90 days from the date the skipped report was due.

[cleopatra2]

32 minutes ago, jackdd said:

You should inform Immigration Bureau about this, they tell people calling 1178 that they are covered.

Also better inform the chief of Phuket immigration, he also confirmed this.

You don't want them giving people wrong information, right?

According to the article Phuket immigration chief did not say the amnesty applies to yearly extensions. He says it applies to all visas including 1 year

 

[Mavideol]

That's a nice and clever decision but I would suggest for them to keep the great ideas and start to revise all their visas requirements. The world is currently in a turmoil, not possible to go back to a normal way of of life, instead we all will a=have to adjust to a NEW way of normal life, economy is a mess all around the world and a lot of people run down their precious savings leaving them with the basic essential for day to day expenses. Many of us if not the majority moved to Thailand to relax, enjoy life without the worrisome of running around to apply for a visa, a renewal, a 90 day report and so forth.

Many started a new life here, invested money in property to live in and by doing so never anticipated that our purchasing power here would go down hill as it has been, a lot of us are unnecessary suffering financially because IMO requirement to have money deposited/sleeping in a bank account that only benefits the banks themselves, neither us nor the IMO benefits from such low yield deposits, either 400K or 800K held at a bank for period of time, during such period one can not use the all amount of funds thus restricting us from spending it, all it's very confusing and frustrating, we all know that thus no need for further explanation.

The point is, IMO should allow people owning real estate property to use such property as a collateral to use as the guaranty for visa renewals, extension of stay/retirement and so forth, any visa requiring any type of bank deposit should be replaced with using the real property, thus potentially having lien or similar hold up on the property, owner can not sell property without replacing such guaranty with something of similar value, either another property or back to a bank account but we should be able to have the choice/alternative to use the money to spend, by doing so, spending the money,  we will be helping more business.

The other alternative, since they are (appear to be) more open to new resolutions/solutions, the tourism is down to the bottom, it will take sometime for people to start to come to Thailand, the Baht still strong thus not an incentive for the majority of westerners to come, if they want to rebounce back fast it would be better to everybody, regardless on the type of visa they have, just scrap the damn charges, no required deposits, just let the people live here, let them spend their savings

 

[cnxnicho]

6 minutes ago, cleopatra2 said:

According to the article Phuket immigration chief did not say the amnesty applies to yearly extensions. He says it applies to all visas including 1 year

 

OK, so go ahead on that basis and perhaps the Immigration Chief will help you or NOT on renewal of your next yearly extension, good luck !!

Edited April 22, 2020 by cnxnicho
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[cleopatra2]

4 minutes ago, cnxnicho said:

OK, so go ahead on that basis and perhaps the Immigration Chief will help you or NOT on renewal of your next yearly extension, good luck !!

???

[Tom89]

7 hours ago, Thailand said:

Not doing the 90 day report is more likely to create problems in the future than not at some offices.

 

Chiang Mai in full swing with drive in etc. We will do ours when due.

That's what I was thinking, so I did mine on Mon anyway. I was out of the Phayao office in 10 minutes