I'm ready for all this to end May 1st.. Get back to normal..

[actonion]

21 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

alcohol lifted - Yes

Restaurants - Yes with restrictions

 

Most things open except bars and massage shops plus large crowded events

Crowded events?  None more crowded than  the Street market on Soi Siam Country Club & every other market in any soi that has a market in East Pattaya,    all very full daily

[Ryan754326]

There’s sure a lot of people here, and everywhere else, that are placing all of their bets on a vaccine being an effective cure. I’m not holding my breath. 
We have vaccines for other Corona viruses already (the flu shot). They are about 60% effective for those who get them, and it’s a never-ending battle to update the vaccine every year, to keep up with new mutations of the virus. Even with that, tens, if not hundreds of thousands still die from the flu each year. That being said, we don’t live in a constant state of panic, as we know that it’s mostly the old, the sick, and those with already compromised immune systems who die. We have accepted this risk as part of the cost of building a functional civilization. 
The vast majority feel rough for a week or two, but survive without needing medical attention, and go on with life. We all know this.

 

Another thing to consider: If all of the speculation is true (which I don’t believe it is), that humans are being reinfected after recovering from Covid19, rather than building up immunity, then there’s not much reason to believe that a vaccine would be very effective anyway.

 

The “vaccine or nothing” approach is obviously the one that will be pushed by those in the business, as they stand to make unimaginable amounts of profit from their taxpayer funded cure. The WHO is in the business, as it is heavily lobbied by Big Pharma and other interests.

 

 

[stephenterry]

One thing for sure - getting back to normal, whatever that is - won't happen on May 1st. I would suggest that scenario could take a year, and only when a vaccine is available to the general public. In the meantime, gradual relaxing of movement restrictions and reopening of small shops province by province, and depending on minimal infection rates, could be spread throughout Thailand.

 

Selling alcohol is a moot point - all my supermarkets and 7-11 are filling up their shelves and fridges with sodas, not alcohol. Even if the ban was lifted after the following weekend holiday (1 -4 May) it would take a few days for new supplies to arrive, bearing in mind the PM's historical mindset is one of a teetotaller.

 

In the meantime, stay safe and swop over to Root beer - at c.75 baht for 6 cans it has an agreeable taste when drunk cold.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Ryan754326]

13 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

As an American I am proud of our alcoholic history.  The roaring 20's were some of the most wild, free, fun, and sexually promiscuous times. 

All during the prohibition of Alcohol?  Hmmmmmm

Maybe Thailand will start opening speakeasies, producing bathtub gin, and we will all be dancing the Charleston and Jitterbug soon

You can bet on it, if lockdowns and alcohol bans continue for any length of time, and the Thais will do it for themselves, whether there are any tourists or not. 
Let’s be realistic. It’s already happening.

Edited April 23, 2020 by Ryan754326

[Ryan754326]

34 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

I am amazed at the number of Thaivisa member who seem to have such a dependence on alcohol. Now, let the saddo emoticans commence. ????

To be fair, I know a lot of people, in Thailand and at home, who didn’t have nearly such a dependence on alcohol until they were forced to stay in their houses 90% of the time.

[lust]

3 minutes ago, Ryan754326 said:

You can bet on it, if lockdowns and alcohol bans continue for any length of time, and the Thais will do it for themselves, whether there are any tourists or not. 
Let’s be realistic. It’s already happening.

No need. Plenty of places still selling. Just bought 3 large bottles of sang som yesterday

[NoshowJones]

4 hours ago, Henryford said:

Why do you think people come to Thailand?

For the temples.????

[NoshowJones]

3 hours ago, poohy said:

Hopefully all will be well!

BUT BUT BUT sadly get used to wearing masks as a fashion or permanent statement for months if not years to come... the thais seem to like them or use them as a crutch for not catching the disease

 

Also if you wear a mask you dont need a crash helmet

 

 

If you wear a crash helmet "full face" do you need a mask?

[Canuck1966]

4 hours ago, Colabamumbai said:

All small shops selling alcohol, bring a cloth bag so it is unseen. This is the new normal, Facemask forever, get used to it. 

I live in a small (but very large gate) community

We have a bar, swimming pool the lot.

No strangers are allowed but we have a bloody good drink & bbq everday

One person (who doesn't drink) does all the shopping, including a steady supply of alcohol on a daily basis. 

I must say we are having a rum old time of it!

[NoshowJones]

1 hour ago, Burma Bill said:

Yes indeed, and when tourists are allowed back in, it will be the CHINESE who will be first to pour in and take-over the closed and defunct businesses!

A Chinese running an "all you can eat" buffet????????

[watthong]

No you're not. Not while the virus still runs the show, ie dictate every waking moments of our lives. So go back to bed now and play Sleeping Beauty.

[Neils]

4 hours ago, Colabamumbai said:

All small shops selling alcohol, bring a cloth bag so it is unseen. This is the new normal, Facemask forever, get used to it. 

Tho when the stock is gone to stock is gone or they have an even bigger bag at the warehouse. 

[OneeyedJohn]

If I could find ginger beer, I wouldn't be so concerned, but I can't.

[khunPer]

22 hours ago, Worldplus said:

 

Can't cope with another month of this..

It's still possible to find flights out of the country – how is your home country doing? – I presume the alternative is to live with part of these restrictions for quite some time, but I also miss normal life as the World once was.

 

Always look at the bright side of life, then restrictions might be eased a bit in May, but far from "normal life". Alcohol sale would probably be back, and perhaps some restaurants reopened with social distancing; maybe also some shops in malls.

 

I think schools will stay closed in May, and also transport between provinces will still be limited, as well as air traffic. International arrivals of plain foreigners, i.e. tourists and returning expats, I don't believe we shall see them coming before July; anyway tourists will most likely stay away if a trip to Land-of-Smiles include 14 days mandatory quarantine.

 

Night life as we once knew it, I'm really in doubt of when, maybe from August; same for night markets and major events like sports in stadiums, concerts and huge beach parties (I'm mainly thinking of the famous/infamous Full Moon Party).

 

More negatively, it might take as long time as it takes to come up with a working vaccine, mass production of same, and international mass vaccination program; it could be another year – or more – with some restrictions, including limits for travelling.

[Tony125]

3 hours ago, Fairynuff said:

Yes I realise that’s why most of you are here

What's your reason/excuse?

[Fairynuff]

11 minutes ago, Tony125 said:

What's your reason/excuse?

Excuse? My reasons, I don’t like European winters, I have better access to beaches and mountains than I  do back home, lower cost of living and Thai food. There’s more if you’re really interested.

Edited April 23, 2020 by Fairynuff

[drguid]

The USA has lifted their lockdown too early. The ugly headlines next week will scare governments around the globe.

 

Also Singapore's stats look really bad now...

[4MyEgo]

3 hours ago, possum1931 said:

I am amazed at the number of Thaivisa member who seem to have such a dependence on alcohol. Now, let the saddo emoticans commence. ????

No dependence on alcohol here, I do like to socialise though, always been that way. 

 

When I do socialise, I keep it to a bare minimum, e.g. 3 small beers within a 2 and a half hour window, no doubt much to the displeasure of the owner of the bar ?

 

The last beer I had before last night's bottle of Chang in the fridge was last month on the 20th of March when the bar closed, now would you call that dependant on alcohol, I don't thinks so.

 

About a month back I also purchased a bottle of Vodka as I saw that the last one I purchased about a year ago was getting a tad low, so I have had the occasional Vodka, soda and lime now that I am home as we watch an evening movie/series, but not every night, again, I doubt you would call that alcohol dependence.

 

I did have a dad once who was an alcoholic and a smoker, but he died in 2000 of a heart attack at age 72, also had a brother who was an alcoholic, he died of the drink at 49 years of age, terrible way to go, a very slow and painful death, he was much worse than my dad was as he worked and had money to buy it freely, whereas my mum used to control the purse strings on the old man when he got on the pension.

 

The above said, seen enough to appreciate that everything has to be taken in moderation, including sex, as I recall back in 2008 I put this fine filly (now my wife) in the sack 4 times in one day, and am still alive to tell the tale, others could have died of a heart attack, some of us have lived and learned, everything in moderation ????

 

But I do get your point, as I see the same guys drinking 4 to 6 big ones every nights, 7 nights a week, some of the extreme ones start from 6am and go all day, so I am told.

 

????

 

 

[natway09]

I cannot see "back to normal" until at least October & that is internal.

Once international flights start arriving & bring the new strain of virus we could be closed again by Christmas

[rickudon]

The visa amnesty - I think someone in government realised that the only ongoing tourists will be those who were already here! The Chinese may come back after the wet season, but in lower numbers.

Most European countries realise tourism is finished for the rest of the year, and social distancing regulations may last well into 2021.

As for alcohol, I think some sort of long term restrictions will continue. Bars will have to become restaurants - with other services an extra ......

[Brunolem]

5 hours ago, lust said:

No need. Plenty of places still selling. Just bought 3 large bottles of sang som yesterday

Why would fill up your motorbike tank with this <deleted> when gasoline is so cheap?

[Brunolem]

3 hours ago, drguid said:

The USA has lifted their lockdown too early. The ugly headlines next week will scare governments around the globe.

 

Also Singapore's stats look really bad now...

The US has not lifted anything.

 

In Singapore, they have a big cluster in an area of high rise buildings where immigrant workers are lodged.

 

The rest of the city has numbers of new cases in the single digits, and they have only 11 deaths to this day.

[garrya]

I have seriously struggled to get booze today. These i..ots really take this seriously.

It's really getting ridiculous. If we had a 100 new infetions we would be forced to stay in the house for 10 years really.

Brainless people. I'm gonna move for sure.

[Sunderland]

9 hours ago, Ryan754326 said:

There’s sure a lot of people here, and everywhere else, that are placing all of their bets on a vaccine being an effective cure. I’m not holding my breath. 
We have vaccines for other Corona viruses already (the flu shot). They are about 60% effective for those who get them, and it’s a never-ending battle to update the vaccine every year, to keep up with new mutations of the virus. Even with that, tens, if not hundreds of thousands still die from the flu each year. That being said, we don’t live in a constant state of panic, as we know that it’s mostly the old, the sick, and those with already compromised immune systems who die. We have accepted this risk as part of the cost of building a functional civilization. 
The vast majority feel rough for a week or two, but survive without needing medical attention, and go on with life. We all know this.

 

Another thing to consider: If all of the speculation is true (which I don’t believe it is), that humans are being reinfected after recovering from Covid19, rather than building up immunity, then there’s not much reason to believe that a vaccine would be very effective anyway.

 

The “vaccine or nothing” approach is obviously the one that will be pushed by those in the business, as they stand to make unimaginable amounts of profit from their taxpayer funded cure. The WHO is in the business, as it is heavily lobbied by Big Pharma and other interests.

 

 

Sorry, but you are mistaken. We do not have vaccines for coronaviruses already. We have only previously had 2 severe human coronaviruses during the 21st century - SARS and MERS. A vaccine was never produced for either. COVID-19 is the third and latest coronavirus to affect humans this century.

Virology
Both influenza and coronaviruses have a single strand of RNA as their genome, but that is where the genomic similarity ends. The influenza virus genome comprises 7 or 8 segments, while the coronavirus has one long strand. Influenza virus RNA is what is known as ‘negative sense RNA’. This means that its sequence is the mirror image of the correct code for proteins and a complementary strand must be made from it before production of new viruses within a host cell can proceed. In contrast, the coronavirus genome is ‘positive sense’ which means it can act as messenger RNA and code for proteins. So from a virological point of view, coronavirus is definitely not a type of flu.
 

Edited April 23, 2020 by Sunderland

[Ajarnbrian]

Back to normal is not something we can expect anytime soon. Alcohol sales is one thing but is minor in the broader scheme of things. Millions will be out of work or on reduced hours for a long time, in Thailand and elsewhere. If you have some income, that`s not so bad. Think of all those in hotel and tourism who have no work, no income and few prospects this year.

[Surelynot]

Can't say I haven't enjoyed lockdown. Calm, quiet, little or no traffic..........only miss bar life really.

[sukhumvitneon]

Just let me out of this s*ihole usa please

[RocketDog]

On 4/23/2020 at 11:20 AM, possum1931 said:

I am amazed at the number of Thaivisa member who seem to have such a dependence on alcohol. Now, let the saddo emoticans commence. ????

Thanks, we got it the first three times you said it in this thread. 

Nothing exceeds like excess I guess. 

 

"Now, let the saddo emoticans commence. ." 

 

So you admit that you're trolling? 

 

Maybe you should have a drink and relax. 

[rosst]

I am on Negros in the Philippines and it has been announced that there will be a reduction in the lockdown on our island with limitations, good idea. 

However the age group of 65 and above and 22 and below are still restricted to their homes. 

I am not sure how much enforcement but this is until at least the 15 th of May.