What type of Covid 19 pandemic person are you?

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

From what I see, many people want the governments to think and act for them, and then spend all their time criticising the governments' decisions. 

I'd say that many people are sheeple, want the governments to think and act for them, and then spend all their time moaning about it.

[UbonThani]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'd say that many people are sheeple, want the governments to think and act for them, and then spend all their time moaning about it.

correct

[cornishcarlos]

12 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I'm sitting on the fence, and it is quite uncomfortable.

 

Get back inside you fool... Someone else might have touched that fence !!!

[cornishcarlos]

What some see as positive data, others label conspiracy theories...

Optimists don't necessarily believe in what their governments are doing !!

Realists realise people are getting hungry.

[GoodieAfterDark]

Horny type when I see girls wearing masks. 

[n00dle]

11 hours ago, Retarded said:

I just got off emailing with my Chinese lady and I got dumbfounded. 

The way she sounded, the tone of writing, is the (stupid) foreign countries mishandled the COVID, etc.

She has no shame or sorry for the original cause of the epidemic.

The government control of China is as efficient as North Korea. 

I don't know whether I would continue this relationship.   

Why would one individual chinese citizen need to feel shame for the actions of a government?

 

In what way is this one person in particular required to offer you apologies?

 

Was she there? Was she knowingly infected herself and did she book a trip?

 

As they say on reddit, username checks out.

 

Id like tp propose an additional category:

 

Ignorant bigots who view this as the perfect excuse to vent their anti chinese sentiment with impunity.

Edited April 30, 2020 by n00dle

[OneMoreFarang]

Uncertain

This story is far from over. And opening up or keeping lots of places and businesses closed is just a small part of the equation.

Travel, tourism, oil, people and businesses with nothing to do and no money and dept. Developments around the word including all those poor countries with bad health care and bad hygiene. Crazy political leaders who ignore scientist. Disrupted supply chains all over the world, and and and. I am sure there are hundreds of problems which will come up which nobody thought about until now.

I try to be an optimist but it will be a looooong time before things will be really back to normal again.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Uncertain

This story is far from over. And opening up or keeping lots of places and businesses closed is just a small part of the equation.

Travel, tourism, oil, people and businesses with nothing to do and no money and dept. Developments around the word including all those poor countries with bad health care and bad hygiene. Crazy political leaders who ignore scientist. Disrupted supply chains all over the world, and and and. I am sure there are hundreds of problems which will come up which nobody thought about until now.

I try to be an optimist but it will be a looooong time before things will be really back to normal again.

I consider myself a cynical realist, so I agree with your last sentence.

[UbonThani]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

try to be an optimist but it will be a looooong time before things will be really back to normal again.

like 18 months?

[OneMoreFarang]

4 minutes ago, UbonThani said:

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

try to be an optimist but it will be a looooong time before things will be really back to normal again.

like 18 months?

Maybe, I am sure part of our life will be back to normal within 18 months. But I am also pretty sure some parts of life will not be the same, even in 18 months.

And of course a lot depends on how fast a vaccine and treatment are away. Until now I read mostly something like: best case a vaccine is 18 months away. And it seems many people interpret this as: likely. Hopefully likely, but maybe later, and maybe much later. I know HIV is something very different but remember how long it too before that could be treated. Many many years.

[seancbk]

I'm an optimistic pessimist.   

Grateful the Governments around the World have done what they've done, optimistic that they will keep doing it.  

Pessimistic about the future, I don't see a vaccine coming anytime soon and I do see this virus resurfacing every year.  I suspect every year we'll have 3 months of schools and businesses closing and a lot more restrictions.   I think there is a very real possibility that this is going to permanently change many things in our societies. 

If I'm honest I'm slightly disappointed that so few people are dying as I am firmly in the 'there are too many people in the World' camp. 

However, once you realise what it would actually take to remove 3 billion people you realise a pandemic is not the answer.    What we actually need is decades of time where the number of people being born each year is much less than the number who die, only then will our global population drop.   But most people won't agree with that being a good idea as they don't care what life will be like in 100 years time.  

I'm loving this whole stay at home thing and as a non drinker I'm finding it increasingly amusing listening to people complain they can't get drunk.  Makes me realise how and pathetic people are.  Boo hoo you can't have a beer, it's not going to kill you (unless you are a bonefide alcoholic!)


 

[wtfracing]

I am a realist and this is better than the world having another war so mankind can reset themselves and a lot less casualties this way. As for the blame does it really matter it is just another hurdle mankind has to jump over and I think most governments are just doing the best they can as I think they all got blindsided with this one just my opinion. Keep safe everyone 

[CG1 Blue]

57 minutes ago, wtfracing said:

As for the blame does it really matter it is just another hurdle mankind has to jump over and I think most governments are just doing the best they can as I think they all got blindsided with this one just my opinion.

Couldn't agree more

[UbonThani]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Maybe, I am sure part of our life will be back to normal within 18 months. But I am also pretty sure some parts of life will not be the same, even in 18 months.

And of course a lot depends on how fast a vaccine and treatment are away. Until now I read mostly something like: best case a vaccine is 18 months away. And it seems many people interpret this as: likely. Hopefully likely, but maybe later, and maybe much later. I know HIV is something very different but remember how long it too before that could be treated. Many many years.

You don't sound positive at all.

[simon43]

I've always been rather a loner, a social and extrovert guy - yes, but also very happy and mentally stable (I think!) with my own company and doing my own things.

 

I've spent half my live (or more) avoiding government and authority control, rules, taxes etc.  I've been pretty successful at that ????

 

All these Wuhan flu events convince me that there is little positive to be had from dealing with politicians, or CCP lapdogs, such as the WHO.  Everything seems to be politicised, fake news abounds, tin-hat nutters spout their trash on Facebook and many fall for these lies.

 

I'm very happy living my life in rural Laos.  But in the future, I can certainly see myself moving further away from the small town where I currently live, and retiring to a rural community, unaffected by politics and these world problems.  I have my online teaching and my ham radio for online socialising and technical experiments.  I'm happy to limit my face-to-face socialising to the local community and screw everyone else... ????

[OneMoreFarang]

3 minutes ago, UbonThani said:

You don't sound positive at all.

I try to be realistic. And trying to be very positive in a situation which is very uncertain will likely end with frustration.

Let's hope for the best but expect that there will be expected and unexpected problems.

 

And I think it's also a good idea not to think too much about all of this. Because most is not in our hands. We can try to protect ourselves and try to cover the known issues. But there are so many things which will happen which we can't influence at all. It's useless to worry about them or speculate how they might develop.

[allanos]

For sure the crisis will be put behind us one way or another, certainly within 18 months I feel.  But my concern is more economic than anything. The world is actually awash with money at the moment.  The finance ministers and the treasuries of the G20 are acting in sync, printing money as fast as their presses can rotate.  One commentator has suggested that US debt will more or less double, to $40 trillion in the near term. The US Treasury already has $6 trillion of debt on its books.  But it is also stepping in to areas where it has never trod before; that's scary! There is talk that the debt on its books is heading to $11 trillion.  Get ready for a "new normal".  After the Lord Mayor's parade comes the sh*t cart. So, after Covid-19 has abated, watch out for hyperinflation.  Let's see what a US dollar (or other currency) will buy you in the next 3-5 years.  About half of what it does today.  Is anybody's income likely to increase by 50% in the same time period, just to keep pace? Highly unlikely.  The net effect is that we will all be a damn sight poorer in the not-too-distant future!

[CG1 Blue]

31 minutes ago, allanos said:

For sure the crisis will be put behind us one way or another, certainly within 18 months I feel.  But my concern is more economic than anything. The world is actually awash with money at the moment.  The finance ministers and the treasuries of the G20 are acting in sync, printing money as fast as their presses can rotate.  One commentator has suggested that US debt will more or less double, to $40 trillion in the near term. The US Treasury already has $6 trillion of debt on its books.  But it is also stepping in to areas where it has never trod before; that's scary! There is talk that the debt on its books is heading to $11 trillion.  Get ready for a "new normal".  After the Lord Mayor's parade comes the sh*t cart. So, after Covid-19 has abated, watch out for hyperinflation.  Let's see what a US dollar (or other currency) will buy you in the next 3-5 years.  About half of what it does today.  Is anybody's income likely to increase by 50% in the same time period, just to keep pace? Highly unlikely.  The net effect is that we will all be a damn sight poorer in the not-too-distant future!

Such depressing thoughts. A lot of things can change / happen, and it won't necessarily be the hell hole you describe after the pandemic. 

 

I wonder if people who always fear the worst are doing it to mentally prepare themselves, in case the worst happens. The trouble with that is you spend your life suffering with anxiety. I have to admit I am guilty of this when it comes to worrying about family members. 

[bluemoon58]

19 hours ago, mauGR1 said:

Perhaps it's funny, but i belong to all groups.

I'm looking at positive data, and take hope from it.

Prolonged lock downs are wrong.

A global depression, sure, minimum 3 years.

And finally, there's something fishy about all this thing.

I'm in this camp. 

[Tropposurfer]

Im as happy as Larry cleaning all

my guns, knives and checking on my food stores.

[Sighto]

20 hours ago, timendres said:

Scientist

- I follow what the science says. Unfortunately, that requires time.

Me too: Like the #1 scientific reference in the World, the WHO, saying that this will not go out of China, quoting that this cannot be transmitted person to person, telling the world that wearing masks are dangerous and will provide a false sense of confidence, and finally telling Trump that closing borders are unnecessary and has little public health benefit. Now they have changed several of these " scientific " facts, but at the time, too many western countries follow that, specially not wearing masks.  

 

Jan. 11–17: Important prescheduled CCP meeting held in Wuhan. During that time, the Wuhan Health Commission insists there are no new cases.

Jan. 14: WHO announces Chinese authorities have seen "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus."

Feb. 4 : At a WHO briefing, Tedros urged that there be no travel bans. "We reiterate our call to all countries not to impose restrictions that unnecessarily interfere with international travel and trade. Such restrictions can have the effect of increasing fear and stigma, with little public health benefit. ... 

Masks : According to the WTO, only sick people, those who care for them, and medical personnel should wear masks in all cases. "Seriously people — STOP BUYING MASKS!” tweeted Adams in late February. "They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus

 

etc etc etc... 

Edited April 30, 2020 by Sighto

[timendres]

21 minutes ago, Sighto said:

Me too: Like the #1 scientific reference, the WHO, saying that this will not go out of China, this cannot be transmitted person to person, that wearing masks are dangerous and will provide a false sense of confidence, and finally telling Trump that closing borders are useless. Now they have changed several of these " scientific " facts, but at the time, too many western countries follow that, specially not wearing masks.  

 

Jan. 11–17: Important prescheduled CCP meeting held in Wuhan. During that time, the Wuhan Health Commission insists there are no new cases.

Jan. 14: WHO announces Chinese authorities have seen "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus."

Feb. 4 : At a WHO briefing, Tedros urged that there be no travel bans. "We reiterate our call to all countries not to impose restrictions that unnecessarily interfere with international travel and trade. Such restrictions can have the effect of increasing fear and stigma, with little public health benefit. ... 

Masks : According to the WTO, only sick people, those who care for them, and medical personnel should wear masks in all cases. "Seriously people — STOP BUYING MASKS!” tweeted Adams in late February. "They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus

 

etc etc etc... 

The WHO, while having many scientists, is a political body.

None of the statements made in your example were backed by any science.

[Sighto]

2 minutes ago, timendres said:

The WHO, while having many scientists, is a political body.

None of the statements made in your example were backed by any science.

Yet, this is the reference #1 for several public health decisions, like not wearing mask in western countries.

In several countries, they quoted the WHO for the decision of not wearing masks. 

[BritManToo]

20 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Conspiracy theorists

- It's all about 5G

- It's all about government control

it's all about getting us to sit quietly while the earth busting asteroid hurtles towards us.

I'm OK with that if I have enough booze and dope to last until the end.

[newnative]

Optimist.

[rumak]

16 hours ago, Tounge Thaied said:

Think for yourself

Question authority

 

"Throughout human history, as our species has faced the frightening, terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are, or where we are going in this ocean of chaos, it has been the authorities, the political, the religious, the educational authorities who attempted to comfort us by giving us order, rules, regulations, informing, forming in our minds their view of reality. To think for yourself you must question authority and learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable, open-mindedness; chaotic, confused, vulnerability to inform yourself." -- Timothy Leary

 

Think for yourself.

Question authority. 

pass the polka dots please .     

[bodga]

21 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I'm sitting on the fence, and it is quite uncomfortable.

Try turning the current off.

[sezze]

I'm realistic scientist . Yes we will be in this for some while , and yes , this is going to be very costly . But give it time and they will find answers/solutions , and we will be coming back .

[4MyEgo]

Being hopeful that I can get a drink in the next couple of days, is that an optimist, or a pessimist, I'm confused, I need a drink.

Edited April 30, 2020 by 4MyEgo

[Skallywag]

22 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Thoughts?

I consider myself a responsible human.  I protect myself as much as possible. 

If scientists create a vaccine to cure or prevent this virus, I would likely get it. 

Would go to a hospital if I contracted this virus and was having trouble breathing.

 

I do not have to go to work with others, or school with others, so simply protect myself.

The government "restrictions" are only necessary for workers and students IMO. Everyone else should be responsible for their own selves and families with the knowledge that the elderly and at-risk members are highly susceptible to contagious diseases. 

Those that willfully disregard social distancing or mask wearing and infect others should be incarcerated and the last ones to receive medical treatment or vaccines.

That would make people responsible for their actions. 

Only way to move forward IMO. Infectious diseases/flu/pneumonia can all be lethal. 

Ignorance should never be a defense when others are impacted by your actions

 

Edited April 30, 2020 by Skallywag
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