webfact Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Don Mueang roars back to life By The Nation The buzz returned to Don Mueang Airport on Friday (May 1), as Thai AirAsia and Thai Lion Air resumed flights on domestic routes after flying was temporarily halted due to the Covid-19 outbreak. Passengers started arriving from 5am. The airport has installed additional measures to screen passengers, such as thermometers at every entrance, including the exit at the passenger terminal. Officers are enforcing distancing between passengers to reduce the risk of being infected with Covid-19. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30387111 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-05-01 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post PerkinsCuthbert Posted May 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2020 I'd rather walk than take a flight at this time; not that CV19 is particularly deadly, which it isn't, just that the ongoing hysteria will bring the jobsworths, the little Hitlers and the rule pedants out in their thousands at the airports and the train and bus stations. 12 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoePai Posted May 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2020 41 minutes ago, PerkinsCuthbert said: I'd rather walk than take a flight at this time; not that CV19 is particularly deadly, which it isn't, just that the ongoing hysteria will bring the jobsworths, the little Hitlers and the rule pedants out in their thousands at the airports and the train and bus stations. You sound like Trump ! 2 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PerkinsCuthbert Posted May 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2020 Just now, JoePai said: You sound like Trump ! Fact 1: The overwhelming majority of people do not have any significant risk of dying from Covid-19. The recent Stanford University antibody study now estimates that the fatality rate if infected is likely 0.1 to 0.2 percent, a risk far lower than previous World Health Organization estimates that were 20 to 30 times higher and that motivated isolation policies. In New York City, an epicenter of the pandemic with more than one-third of all U.S. deaths, the rate of death for people 18 to 45 years old is 0.01 percent, or 10 per 100,000 in the population. On the other hand, people aged 75 and over have a death rate 80 times that. For people under 18 years old, the rate of death is zero per 100,000. Of all fatal cases in New York state, two-thirds were in patients over 70 years of age; more than 95 percent were over 50 years of age; and about 90 percent of all fatal cases had an underlying illness. Of 6,570 confirmed Covid-19 deaths fully investigated for underlying conditions to date, 6,520, or 99.2 percent, had an underlying illness. If you do not already have an underlying chronic condition, your chances of dying are small, regardless of age. And young adults and children in normal health have almost no risk of any serious illness from COVID-19. Fact 2: Protecting older, at-risk people eliminates hospital overcrowding. We can learn about hospital utilization from data from New York City, the hotbed of Covid-19 with more than 34,600 hospitalizations to date. For those under 18 years of age, hospitalization from the virus is 0.01 percent, or 11 per 100,000 people; for those 18 to 44 years old, hospitalization is 0.1 percent. Even for people ages 65 to 74, only 1.7 percent were hospitalized. Of 4,103 confirmed Covid-19 patients with symptoms bad enough to seek medical care, Dr. Leora Horwitz of NYU Medical Center concluded “age is far and away the strongest risk factor for hospitalization.” Even early WHO reports noted that 80 percent of all cases were mild, and more recent studies show a far more widespread rate of infection and lower rate of serious illness. Half of all people testing positive for infection have no symptoms at all. The vast majority of younger, otherwise healthy people do not need significant medical care if they catch this infection. Fact 3: Vital population immunity is prevented by total isolation policies, prolonging the problem. We know from decades of medical science that infection itself allows people to generate an immune response – antibodies – so that the infection is controlled throughout the population by “herd immunity.” Indeed, that is the main purpose of widespread immunization in other viral diseases – to assist with population immunity. In this virus, we know that medical care is not even necessary for the vast majority of people who are infected. It is so mild that half of infected people are asymptomatic, shown in early data from the Diamond Princess ship, and then in Iceland and Italy. That has been falsely portrayed as a problem requiring mass isolation. In fact, infected people without severe illness are the immediately available vehicle for establishing widespread immunity. By transmitting the virus to others in the low-risk group who then generate antibodies, they block the network of pathways toward the most vulnerable people, ultimately ending the threat. Extending whole-population isolation would directly prevent that widespread immunity from developing. Fact 4: People are dying because other medical care is not getting done due to hypothetical projections. Critical health care for millions of Americans is being ignored and people are dying to accommodate “potential” Covid-19 patients and for fear of spreading the disease. Most states and many hospitals abruptly stopped “nonessential” procedures and surgery. That prevented diagnoses of life-threatening diseases, like cancer screening, biopsies of tumors now undiscovered and potentially deadly brain aneurysms. Treatments, including emergency care, for the most serious illnesses were also missed. Cancer patients deferred chemotherapy. An estimated 80 per cent of brain surgery cases were skipped. Acute stroke and heart attack patients missed their only chances for treatment, some dying and many now facing permanent disability. Fact 5: We have a clearly defined population at risk who can be protected with targeted measures. The overwhelming evidence all over the world consistently shows that a clearly defined group – older people and others with underlying conditions – is more likely to have a serious illness requiring hospitalization and more likely to die from Covid-19. Knowing that, it is a commonsense, achievable goal to target isolation policy to that group, including strictly monitoring those who interact with them. Nursing home residents, the highest risk, should be the most straightforward to systematically protect from infected people, given that they already live in confined places with highly restricted entry. 15 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steven100 Posted May 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, PerkinsCuthbert said: Fact 1: The overwhelming majority of people do not have any significant risk of dying from Covid-19. The recent Stanford University antibody study now estimates that the fatality rate if infected is likely 0.1 to 0.2 percent, a risk far lower than previous World Health Organization estimates that were 20 to 30 times higher and that motivated isolation policies. In New York City, an epicenter of the pandemic with more than one-third of all U.S. deaths, the rate of death for people 18 to 45 years old is 0.01 percent, or 10 per 100,000 in the population. On the other hand, people aged 75 and over have a death rate 80 times that. For people under 18 years old, the rate of death is zero per 100,000. Of all fatal cases in New York state, two-thirds were in patients over 70 years of age; more than 95 percent were over 50 years of age; and about 90 percent of all fatal cases had an underlying illness. Of 6,570 confirmed Covid-19 deaths fully investigated for underlying conditions to date, 6,520, or 99.2 percent, had an underlying illness. If you do not already have an underlying chronic condition, your chances of dying are small, regardless of age. And young adults and children in normal health have almost no risk of any serious illness from COVID-19. Fact 2: Protecting older, at-risk people eliminates hospital overcrowding. We can learn about hospital utilization from data from New York City, the hotbed of Covid-19 with more than 34,600 hospitalizations to date. For those under 18 years of age, hospitalization from the virus is 0.01 percent, or 11 per 100,000 people; for those 18 to 44 years old, hospitalization is 0.1 percent. Even for people ages 65 to 74, only 1.7 percent were hospitalized. Of 4,103 confirmed Covid-19 patients with symptoms bad enough to seek medical care, Dr. Leora Horwitz of NYU Medical Center concluded “age is far and away the strongest risk factor for hospitalization.” Even early WHO reports noted that 80 percent of all cases were mild, and more recent studies show a far more widespread rate of infection and lower rate of serious illness. Half of all people testing positive for infection have no symptoms at all. The vast majority of younger, otherwise healthy people do not need significant medical care if they catch this infection. Fact 3: Vital population immunity is prevented by total isolation policies, prolonging the problem. We know from decades of medical science that infection itself allows people to generate an immune response – antibodies – so that the infection is controlled throughout the population by “herd immunity.” Indeed, that is the main purpose of widespread immunization in other viral diseases – to assist with population immunity. In this virus, we know that medical care is not even necessary for the vast majority of people who are infected. It is so mild that half of infected people are asymptomatic, shown in early data from the Diamond Princess ship, and then in Iceland and Italy. That has been falsely portrayed as a problem requiring mass isolation. In fact, infected people without severe illness are the immediately available vehicle for establishing widespread immunity. By transmitting the virus to others in the low-risk group who then generate antibodies, they block the network of pathways toward the most vulnerable people, ultimately ending the threat. Extending whole-population isolation would directly prevent that widespread immunity from developing. Fact 4: People are dying because other medical care is not getting done due to hypothetical projections. Critical health care for millions of Americans is being ignored and people are dying to accommodate “potential” Covid-19 patients and for fear of spreading the disease. Most states and many hospitals abruptly stopped “nonessential” procedures and surgery. That prevented diagnoses of life-threatening diseases, like cancer screening, biopsies of tumors now undiscovered and potentially deadly brain aneurysms. Treatments, including emergency care, for the most serious illnesses were also missed. Cancer patients deferred chemotherapy. An estimated 80 per cent of brain surgery cases were skipped. Acute stroke and heart attack patients missed their only chances for treatment, some dying and many now facing permanent disability. Fact 5: We have a clearly defined population at risk who can be protected with targeted measures. The overwhelming evidence all over the world consistently shows that a clearly defined group – older people and others with underlying conditions – is more likely to have a serious illness requiring hospitalization and more likely to die from Covid-19. Knowing that, it is a commonsense, achievable goal to target isolation policy to that group, including strictly monitoring those who interact with them. Nursing home residents, the highest risk, should be the most straightforward to systematically protect from infected people, given that they already live in confined places with highly restricted entry. you don't go to the pub much 2 1 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anterian Posted May 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, steven100 said: you don't go to the pub much Neither do people under 18 or over 80. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BobBKK Posted May 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, PerkinsCuthbert said: Fact 1: The overwhelming majority of people do not have any significant risk of dying from Covid-19. The recent Stanford University antibody study now estimates that the fatality rate if infected is likely 0.1 to 0.2 percent, a risk far lower than previous World Health Organization estimates that were 20 to 30 times higher and that motivated isolation policies. In New York City, an epicenter of the pandemic with more than one-third of all U.S. deaths, the rate of death for people 18 to 45 years old is 0.01 percent, or 10 per 100,000 in the population. On the other hand, people aged 75 and over have a death rate 80 times that. For people under 18 years old, the rate of death is zero per 100,000. Of all fatal cases in New York state, two-thirds were in patients over 70 years of age; more than 95 percent were over 50 years of age; and about 90 percent of all fatal cases had an underlying illness. Of 6,570 confirmed Covid-19 deaths fully investigated for underlying conditions to date, 6,520, or 99.2 percent, had an underlying illness. If you do not already have an underlying chronic condition, your chances of dying are small, regardless of age. And young adults and children in normal health have almost no risk of any serious illness from COVID-19. Fact 2: Protecting older, at-risk people eliminates hospital overcrowding. We can learn about hospital utilization from data from New York City, the hotbed of Covid-19 with more than 34,600 hospitalizations to date. For those under 18 years of age, hospitalization from the virus is 0.01 percent, or 11 per 100,000 people; for those 18 to 44 years old, hospitalization is 0.1 percent. Even for people ages 65 to 74, only 1.7 percent were hospitalized. Of 4,103 confirmed Covid-19 patients with symptoms bad enough to seek medical care, Dr. Leora Horwitz of NYU Medical Center concluded “age is far and away the strongest risk factor for hospitalization.” Even early WHO reports noted that 80 percent of all cases were mild, and more recent studies show a far more widespread rate of infection and lower rate of serious illness. Half of all people testing positive for infection have no symptoms at all. The vast majority of younger, otherwise healthy people do not need significant medical care if they catch this infection. Fact 3: Vital population immunity is prevented by total isolation policies, prolonging the problem. We know from decades of medical science that infection itself allows people to generate an immune response – antibodies – so that the infection is controlled throughout the population by “herd immunity.” Indeed, that is the main purpose of widespread immunization in other viral diseases – to assist with population immunity. In this virus, we know that medical care is not even necessary for the vast majority of people who are infected. It is so mild that half of infected people are asymptomatic, shown in early data from the Diamond Princess ship, and then in Iceland and Italy. That has been falsely portrayed as a problem requiring mass isolation. In fact, infected people without severe illness are the immediately available vehicle for establishing widespread immunity. By transmitting the virus to others in the low-risk group who then generate antibodies, they block the network of pathways toward the most vulnerable people, ultimately ending the threat. Extending whole-population isolation would directly prevent that widespread immunity from developing. Fact 4: People are dying because other medical care is not getting done due to hypothetical projections. Critical health care for millions of Americans is being ignored and people are dying to accommodate “potential” Covid-19 patients and for fear of spreading the disease. Most states and many hospitals abruptly stopped “nonessential” procedures and surgery. That prevented diagnoses of life-threatening diseases, like cancer screening, biopsies of tumors now undiscovered and potentially deadly brain aneurysms. Treatments, including emergency care, for the most serious illnesses were also missed. Cancer patients deferred chemotherapy. An estimated 80 per cent of brain surgery cases were skipped. Acute stroke and heart attack patients missed their only chances for treatment, some dying and many now facing permanent disability. Fact 5: We have a clearly defined population at risk who can be protected with targeted measures. The overwhelming evidence all over the world consistently shows that a clearly defined group – older people and others with underlying conditions – is more likely to have a serious illness requiring hospitalization and more likely to die from Covid-19. Knowing that, it is a commonsense, achievable goal to target isolation policy to that group, including strictly monitoring those who interact with them. Nursing home residents, the highest risk, should be the most straightforward to systematically protect from infected people, given that they already live in confined places with highly restricted entry. Some sense at last! thank you 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tyga Posted May 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2020 40 minutes ago, BobBKK said: Some sense at last! thank you cobblers. If he was that much of an expert, why is on here and not working for an organization fighting the virus? No real expert claims to have all the answers but apparently he does... 1 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Asquith Production Posted May 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2020 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Asquith Production Posted May 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2020 That woman on the left as 3 legs. 4 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post graemeaylward Posted May 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2020 2 hours ago, webfact said: Don Mueang roars back to life Looks more like a whimper to me! Fact 1. Nobody wants to travel by plane at the moment. Fact 2. Nobody has the money to travel at the moment. Fact 3. 13 Flights out of 17 cancelled is hardly a roaring success. Fact 4. The ticket machines are not 2 metres apart, social distance. Fact 5. The 2 members of Air Asia staff pictured in the photo of the machines are not 2 metres apart. Fact 6. PerkinsCuthbert is talking out of his backside and should spout his rubbish to all those who have lost loved ones due to this terrible contagious virus! Then he would realise how dangerous it is! 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generealty Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 ROARS ? i am not an English teacher, but think the reporters need some English language lessons. Anyone want to help ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sametboy2019 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 How can you take a plane if each province is on lockdown? You can't sit in a bar or even buy alcohol but you can share a plane with god's knows how many people breathing in recycled air. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Don Mueang was never 'dead'. There were flights there all through April. eg Nok Air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post timendres Posted May 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 hour ago, tyga said: cobblers. If he was that much of an expert, why is on here and not working for an organization fighting the virus? No real expert claims to have all the answers but apparently he does... It is something called "reading and learning". You do not need to be an expert to read the results of work done by the experts. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Quote:- Don Mueang roars back to life Must be Thai "Lion" Air!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lensta Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 "Don Mueang roars back to life" <deleted> Nation, get a grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 3 hours ago, webfact said: Don Mueang roars back to life Looks more like a "meow" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Yup, looks roaring alright. To compare, here's roaring 20's: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 hour ago, graemeaylward said: Fact 1. Nobody wants to travel by plane at the moment. Fact 2. Nobody has the money to travel at the moment. Fact 4. The ticket machines are not 2 metres apart, social distance. Fact 5. The 2 members of Air Asia staff pictured in the photo of the machines are not 2 metres apart. // 1 & 2 : so who are these people on pictures and videos shown on TV news ? 4 & 5 : Why 2 meters? Isn't social distance ONE meter in Thailand ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said: Isn't social distance ONE meter in Thailand ? Actually it is one yard and four inches, with a tolerance of one inch... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Asquith Production said: That woman on the left as 3 legs. A female Rolf Harris, what's a female name for Jake? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 3 hours ago, PerkinsCuthbert said: Fact 1: The overwhelming majority of people do not have any significant risk of dying from Covid-19. The recent Stanford University antibody study now estimates that the fatality rate if infected is likely 0.1 to 0.2 percent, a risk far lower than previous World Health Organization estimates that were 20 to 30 times higher and that motivated isolation policies. In New York City, an epicenter of the pandemic with more than one-third of all U.S. deaths, the rate of death for people 18 to 45 years old is 0.01 percent, or 10 per 100,000 in the population. On the other hand, people aged 75 and over have a death rate 80 times that. For people under 18 years old, the rate of death is zero per 100,000. Of all fatal cases in New York state, two-thirds were in patients over 70 years of age; more than 95 percent were over 50 years of age; and about 90 percent of all fatal cases had an underlying illness. Of 6,570 confirmed Covid-19 deaths fully investigated for underlying conditions to date, 6,520, or 99.2 percent, had an underlying illness. If you do not already have an underlying chronic condition, your chances of dying are small, regardless of age. And young adults and children in normal health have almost no risk of any serious illness from COVID-19. Fact 2: Protecting older, at-risk people eliminates hospital overcrowding. We can learn about hospital utilization from data from New York City, the hotbed of Covid-19 with more than 34,600 hospitalizations to date. For those under 18 years of age, hospitalization from the virus is 0.01 percent, or 11 per 100,000 people; for those 18 to 44 years old, hospitalization is 0.1 percent. Even for people ages 65 to 74, only 1.7 percent were hospitalized. Of 4,103 confirmed Covid-19 patients with symptoms bad enough to seek medical care, Dr. Leora Horwitz of NYU Medical Center concluded “age is far and away the strongest risk factor for hospitalization.” Even early WHO reports noted that 80 percent of all cases were mild, and more recent studies show a far more widespread rate of infection and lower rate of serious illness. Half of all people testing positive for infection have no symptoms at all. The vast majority of younger, otherwise healthy people do not need significant medical care if they catch this infection. Fact 3: Vital population immunity is prevented by total isolation policies, prolonging the problem. We know from decades of medical science that infection itself allows people to generate an immune response – antibodies – so that the infection is controlled throughout the population by “herd immunity.” Indeed, that is the main purpose of widespread immunization in other viral diseases – to assist with population immunity. In this virus, we know that medical care is not even necessary for the vast majority of people who are infected. It is so mild that half of infected people are asymptomatic, shown in early data from the Diamond Princess ship, and then in Iceland and Italy. That has been falsely portrayed as a problem requiring mass isolation. In fact, infected people without severe illness are the immediately available vehicle for establishing widespread immunity. By transmitting the virus to others in the low-risk group who then generate antibodies, they block the network of pathways toward the most vulnerable people, ultimately ending the threat. Extending whole-population isolation would directly prevent that widespread immunity from developing. Fact 4: People are dying because other medical care is not getting done due to hypothetical projections. Critical health care for millions of Americans is being ignored and people are dying to accommodate “potential” Covid-19 patients and for fear of spreading the disease. Most states and many hospitals abruptly stopped “nonessential” procedures and surgery. That prevented diagnoses of life-threatening diseases, like cancer screening, biopsies of tumors now undiscovered and potentially deadly brain aneurysms. Treatments, including emergency care, for the most serious illnesses were also missed. Cancer patients deferred chemotherapy. An estimated 80 per cent of brain surgery cases were skipped. Acute stroke and heart attack patients missed their only chances for treatment, some dying and many now facing permanent disability. Fact 5: We have a clearly defined population at risk who can be protected with targeted measures. The overwhelming evidence all over the world consistently shows that a clearly defined group – older people and others with underlying conditions – is more likely to have a serious illness requiring hospitalization and more likely to die from Covid-19. Knowing that, it is a commonsense, achievable goal to target isolation policy to that group, including strictly monitoring those who interact with them. Nursing home residents, the highest risk, should be the most straightforward to systematically protect from infected people, given that they already live in confined places with highly restricted entry. That may be true...but this is NOT the official propaganda...and common sense has nothing to do with it. You know the sanctions for going against the official mantra, don't you? Get ready to become a pariah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Brunolem said: Actually it is one yard and four inches, with a tolerance of one inch... No, it's one meter. Yard? Inch? When will some people stop using these archaic units ?? There are International Standards for units, and for length/distance it's meter. Thailand use this system, as most of world countries... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bangkok Barry Posted May 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 hour ago, graemeaylward said: Fact 6. PerkinsCuthbert is talking out of his backside and should spout his rubbish to all those who have lost loved ones due to this terrible contagious virus! Then he would realise how dangerous it is! World population: 7,800,000,000 Deaths from the virus: 234,393 People who are out of work/lost their business: Untold Millions Thailand - Deaths in two months+ from the virus: 54 Average deaths on the roads in one day: around 50 Suicides due to losing their income: mounting daily and on course to exceed deaths caused by the virus 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoYai Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 3 hours ago, PerkinsCuthbert said: Fact 1: The overwhelming majority of people do not have any significant risk of dying from Covid-19. The recent Stanford University antibody study now estimates that the fatality rate if infected is likely 0.1 to 0.2 percent.................................................................... Trump supporter for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asquith Production Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 18 minutes ago, possum1931 said: A female Rolf Harris, what's a female name for Jake? Jacobina, Jacobine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stouricks Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 3 hours ago, anterian said: Neither do people under 18 or over 80. Nobody does......they're all closed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) roars back to life..... showing around 15 people 555 Edited May 1, 2020 by Mavideol spelling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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