Exactly WHO has ripped you off,who has tried to borrow money?

[georgegeorgia]

Time and time again we read on these forums to avoid other farang or they or certain farang are scammers,trying to borrow money or rip you off.

I forget what they call it in Psychology ,is it called conditioning,now where if you read it or hear it you believe it but it has never happened to you but you fear it because everyone tells you it happens...but never happened to them in reality 

 

 

But....have you ever actually had that experience with other farang or just like me you are hearing this and believing it ? based all on heresay ?

 

I will regret back in August 2018 my behaviour when a farang a fellow Aussie in pattaya got out of a taxi and asked me directions, he told me he had been ignored by a few farangs walking past ,anyway he then asked me where I was from and tried to create small talk, I quickly said I had to go and scampered off, all because he may try to rip me off ,scam me,asked to borrow money …….never had it had it happen to me....but...I read on these forums and heard guys in bars say be wary because they could try to borrow money and give you a poor story etc etc...….so begs the question and please be honest.....has it ever ever happened to you in Thailand ?

 

has a farang stranger ever asked you to lend money...tried to scam you...rip you off ….really?...…or is it just what you read,hear so you start believing it ?

 

Bit like my boss telling me not to travel to a certain area because its so dangerous,on questioning him,he has never been there or even been robbed there,just what everyone says so he believes it.

 

and in all the 20 years travelling to all of Thailand I can honestly say I have never ever been asked to lend another farang money nor been scammed or ripped off by another farang .

So be honest,have you ever been ripped off,scammed or asked to lend money to another farang in Thailand or are you too believing and fearing what you hear ?

 

Edited May 11, 2020 by georgegeorgia

[CharlieH]

" in all the 20 years travelling to all of Thailand I can honestly say I have never ever been asked to lend another farang money nor been scammed or ripped off by another farang "

 

Ditto, but 15 yrs for me.

Read about it on here, but thats about the extent of it.

 

"Stories" and no actual real experience.

 

[Pilotman]

I was once asked, by a dirty looking, half drunk farang in Bangkok, who said that he has been robbed and needed money to get home.  I asked him if I had "Barclays Bank" painted on my forehead, and walked off. I would never part with my money in such circumstances, however sad the 'story' sounded. 

[baansgr]

It's the ones closest to you that have known you a long time and would consider friends that seem to be the worst...some real two faced back stabbing bar stewards in Thailand for sure

[Oldie]

I was asked sometimes but only in the range below 10000 Baht. Wenn I asked them to give me their passport until I will get the money back they refused to give it to me. And so I didn't give them any money. Two of them left their hotel and flew back without paying their hotel bill I was told afterwards.

 

My ex girlfriend never asked me for money in more than 20 years. I give her something for her birthday and for Christmas (she is Christian). She is my ex and I never wanted an other girlfriend again (I am old in the meantime and prefer to be alone) but she is still one of my best friends. She never worked in the "business". 

[worgeordie]

Are these questions for research,or are you just been nosey ,

you also asked another personal question,"do you acknowledge Farangs" 

While its nice they are not Covid 19 questions,why do you need to know ?

regards worgeordie

Edited May 11, 2020 by worgeordie

[OneMoreFarang]

15 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

has a farang stranger ever asked you to lend money...tried to scam you...rip you off ….really?...…or is it just what you read,hear so you start believing it ?

Not a stranger!

 

But there are many money stories which are true. I gave a couple of thousand baht to "friends" and never saw them back. And I don't think these guys planned to never give it back. They just never had enough money to give it back.

 

I know from two relative rich friends that they lost hundreds of thousands in one case and millions in another case. One was a story like: I will marry this girl and I have to show 500,000B sin sod. And I will get it back on the next day and then I will give it back to you. Sure...

 

The other was a guy who was convinced by another farang that there is this great business opportunity. Obviously first some trips and entertainment had to be paid. And then some more, all looks good, great, just a little longer...

These seem to be the scams which "work best" and which ruin people. Because too many just can't admit to themselves that the money which they already "invested" is gone. They dream the dream. And if I just invest a little more then I will get all that money and much more back - or maybe not.

[wobblyjohn]

A Hungarian who was the boyfriend of the wifes friend asked me to lend him small amounts and always paid it back

After a few years their kid got sick and I lent them enough to pay the hospital and never got that back next thing he's done done a runner with my money and left his girlfriend she promised to pay it back but never did

 

[georgegeorgia]

25 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

Are these questions for research,or are you just been nosey ,

you also asked another personal question,"do you acknowledge Farangs"

regards worgeordie

well because a lot of thaivisa members say constantly about they avoid farang because they could borrow money and they could be given a "poor" story etc ….but in reality does it happen that often with other farang?

how many times over the years have you read someone post they quickly avoided another farang who said hello to them,because they "probably wanted to borrow money from them, they were only walking past in the street but need to show caution.

its just based on what others read and hear right? then they start believing it...:"oh that 80yo farang said hello because he probably wants to borrow money from me" etc,they start believing that because they constantly read it,but it has never happened to them,so who has it happened to????

so you better not get into small talk with a farang in a bar or wherever because what you read he could try to scam you !

 

im still trying to think of the psychology word for this,but its fear mongering I think,we have to fear each other because what we read or hear but never happened to us personally.

 

and I believe it hasn't happened nearly as much to anyone

I once had a guy tell me in a bar in soi bukhao to be careful of cockneys ...other farangs are ok he says...but cockneys are con men..on asking him why he thens mentions Arfur Daley from the TV Show Minder but never had a personal experience himself !!!

well...if Arfur Daleys a conman all cockneys must be then.

Edited May 11, 2020 by georgegeorgia

[Puchaiyank]

If this is your major concern...your major worry...you do indeed live a charmed life. 

 

Don't worry...be happy!  Most farangs have plenty of money to take care of themselves.  ????

[brokenbone]

yes, a falang wanted to borrow, i cant recall 2-500 thb,

he offered his watch as collateral, and in hindsight i should have taken the watch in collateral, cause i never heard or saw him again.

 

to put in perspective there is dozens of thais i lost money on, so the caution of falangs here is odd,

but, old falangs can really be time wasters like no one else, tho that probably comes down to age and got nothing to do with nationality

Edited May 11, 2020 by brokenbone

[northsouthdevide]

I've been in Thailand for more than 10 years, and reading this post is the first time I've ever heard of farang asking for money or ripping people off. 

There's good and bad people in every society, and walk of life, and there's also people who may need help. 

There are also people who would never help a fellow human being, and there are people who are glad to help. 

 

That's what makes us different to any other species on the planet. 

Its called humanity. 

[jadee]

the only time any foreigner has ever approached me asking for money was in Pattaya - he was American and just approached me saying "Please tell me you're American" - I explained that I'm not. He said he needed cash and he had a watch he seemed to want to sell. He kept saying "I just need a hotel name" like he wanted me to say where I was staying. I just told him I was sorry and only have a bit of cash, so I just gave him 500baht. 

[lee b]

simple rule, if you dont 100% trust someone and you lend them money, dont expect to get it back.

[CrunchWrapSupreme]

Heh, I got three stories. I'll leave out too many details.

 

1) I've been offered for sale things from farangs I later found to be scams.

2) I've tried selling things to farangs they nit picked every little thing on, expecting me to cave in. Nah, go buy it in a shop for full price then.

3) I had farangs tell me to message some chick on Line who had something for sale, to aid in their conquest of her. But don't worry, I didn't really have to buy it. Uh-huh.

 

In all cases, I believed them to be taking advantage of a level of trust they believed I had in them, just because we're both farangs. I soon learned it should take more than that.

Edited May 11, 2020 by CrunchWrapSupreme
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[timendres]

More than once. Business transactions.

Ripped off for serious money, as well as not paid for real work.

Fortunately, many more examples of good honest people in good honest transactions.

[CGW]

Keep well clear of the "financial advisers" in Thailand hiding behind their suits and company names! I could go into detail but will refrain for obvious reasons! If there is a decent and honest one - in my experience - NO

[sungod]

2 minutes ago, CGW said:

Keep well clear of the "financial advisers" in Thailand hiding behind their suits and company names! I could go into detail but will refrain for obvious reasons! If there is a decent and honest one - in my experience - NO

Agreed, rather buy a second hand car than deal with these parasites!!!

[Oldie]

3 minutes ago, CGW said:

Keep well clear of the "financial advisers" in Thailand hiding behind their suits and company names! I could go into detail but will refrain for obvious reasons! If there is a decent and honest one - in my experience - NO

The strange combination of people with great business ideas but with no money - I met many of them when I still was working. I never listened to them... 

[Youlike]

The WHO has ripped me off my freedom by spreading FAKE news.

[georgegeorgia]

2 minutes ago, BIG FAAT UGLY FEMINAZI said:

air asia malaysia. you know the usual story so no need to xplain

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[brokenbone]

yes, now i recall another falang i lost money on, 40k in a scam investment, advertised in pattaya trader

[brokenbone]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

?

pattaya trader was/is a magazine that came out 1-2 times a month,

and on one occasion someone was discussing currency trading

and invited investors

[Bruce Aussie Chiang Mai]

Can anyone loan me 500 baht.

Now you can all say you have been asked. Lol

????❤????????

[elliss]

 

Never a borrower or lender be .

 Especially to farlangs , chanchers and takers , galore ..

[Lacessit]

8 minutes ago, Bruce Aussie Chiang Mai said:

Can anyone loan me 500 baht.

Now you can all say you have been asked. Lol

????❤????????

A security guard at the condo in Chiang Mai once borrowed 500 baht from me. I was quite surprised when he gave it back to me after about a month, had completely forgotten about it.

My GF very occasionally borrows 1000 baht from me, we look at each other and both laugh. We  know it's not coming back.

Can't say I've ever been ripped off here, I walk away if I think the farang price is too greedy.

I've been ripped off bigtime in Australia, it's called Family Law.

[2 is 1]

Only who has ripped me off was my ex! She wasent Thai. But 100% biatch!

Edited May 11, 2020 by 2 is 1

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

Exactly WHO has ripped you off, who has tried to borrow money?

Not many people in many countries and places in the world where I've been, shot at yeah, attempted muggings yeah etc but never in Thailand.

 

Why are you always posting trying to make Thailand look bad now there's flinging question for you. ?

[473geo]

I don't tend to loan, I give, if it comes back fine, if not already written off anyway

Once I threw a little at a money making scheme invited by a farang friend, went pear shaped, irritating at the time but no big deal

Solved any further issues by handing the finances over to my wife when we married, she is better with money, we consult, she asks my advice, the final decision will be hers, she is very careful with our money ???? and I never get asked for a loan, thus never accused of refusing ????

[jimmybcool]

I am personally aware of many of my friends ripped off by a fellow "friend".  For very real money.  I am also very aware of people I don't know being ripped off by various scams in Pattaya over the years.  

 

Doesn't mean I won't stop and help a stranger out with directions or local knowledge advice.  I'm pretty sure I can recognize when the scam is started.  Oh and yes, I personally have been approached by farangs that just need taxi money etc due to unforeseen events or something to eat or whatever.  They are minor scams.  

 

Plus the local scams like the indian swami telling me "I am a lucky man".  

 

The warnings are legit.  The scams occur.