POTUS is out and about, shaking hands, no mask. Would'nt it be a miracle if we could all get out of lock-down and see a stop to economic deaths? 

Trump says he's taking hydroxychloroquine, despite scientists' concerns

The anti-malarial drug has not been shown to be effective in treating Covid-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/18/trump-says-hes-taking-unproven-anti-malarial-drug-265546

I won't take anything to protect me form COVID because it's a trivial disease like the cold or flu.

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I won't take anything to protect me form COVID because it's a trivial disease like the cold or flu.

 

Proof ?

I would never take the stuff.  I don't think Trump took it either.  He says he did, which means he probably didn't. 

zinc

sun

 

done

I would take it over taking some vaccine for dang sure.  

3 minutes ago, 4reaL said:

 

Proof ?

What proof are you looking for? The ones that clearly state that the amount of deaths and infected are lower than the yearly flu? Or the ones that clearly state it´s a common virus that can be compared to a flu based om the registered victims and deaths? My advice to you is just Google it.

All the preventive measures from start was good, but know this is getting ridiculous. As the world can see, some countries have been affected more than others. That is no reason to continue to lockdown the world. Now it has slowed down in many countries and time to start up everything. Anything else is pure madness.

Preventive measures is all good, but they shall never be taken to far out of misguided fear.

33 minutes ago, paddypower said:

Trump says he's

How tired it is to listen to this man..

Booreeed!

29 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

What proof are you looking for? The ones that clearly state that the amount of deaths and infected are lower than the yearly flu?

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

 

CDC estimates 12,000 to 61,000 deaths annually from flu in US

 

Since December 2019: almost 90,000 dead from Covid-19

11 minutes ago, tonray said:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

 

CDC estimates 12,000 to 61,000 deaths annually from flu in US

 

Since December 2019: almost 90,000 dead from Covid-19

Note: 90,000 and rising, and that is with unprecedented Global Lockdowns.

I am sure some people on here struggle with the concept of exponential growth.

 

I am not saying we dont need to somehow get things moving again, but it is fairly clearly far far more serious than flu.

Yes I would. There are many Drs using it along with azithromycin and zinc together and are having great success in treating the Corona virus. I sure as heck would not be using the 1000 usd for 1 pill that Gilead pharmaceutical company has. Also I am very skeptical of a vaccine and the fact that Bill Gates is pushing for mandatory vaccination has me concerned. I don't trust the powers to be  and God only knows what would be in any forthcoming vaccine for the Corona virus.

i posted, as wife and I are in mid 70's, so we're interested in replies. we would never take this drug, as I don't trust the FDA pronouncements on it (they're totally confusing anyway).                                                  we're relying on

-sunshine

- common sense.

not a lot of the latter going around the world at the moment, as people react to losing what they took for granted.

2 minutes ago, watgate said:

Yes I would. There are many Drs using it along with azithromycin and zinc together and are having great success in treating the Corona virus. I sure as heck would not be using the 1000 usd for 1 pill that Gilead pharmaceutical company has. Also I am very skeptical of a vaccine and the fact that Bill Gates is pushing for mandatory vaccination has me concerned. I don't trust the powers to be  and God only knows what would be in any forthcoming vaccine for the Corona virus.

there was some serious money made, off Gilead stock. That's one of the real problems in the US - money comes before health.

5 minutes ago, watgate said:

Yes I would. There are many Drs using it along with azithromycin and zinc together and are having great success in treating the Corona virus. I sure as heck would not be using the 1000 usd for 1 pill that Gilead pharmaceutical company has. Also I am very skeptical of a vaccine and the fact that Bill Gates is pushing for mandatory vaccination has me concerned. I don't trust the powers to be  and God only knows what would be in any forthcoming vaccine for the Corona virus.

Do you actually know many doctors are using it, or you are just repeating what DT said in his news conference?

What is good for goose, must be also good for the gander right?...

1 hour ago, 4reaL said:

Proof ?

The proof is nobody in my family died when I caught it in Saigon (or Chiang Mai) airport in January from Chinese tourists, then infected my family. Me, bit of earache, blocked ears and a nasty cough for a month or two, misses laid out flat on the sofa with fever for 10 days, son fever for 3 days, daughter didn't get it, probably immune.

Who care about Trump and Hydroxychloroquine.

 

I certainly don't

7 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

The proof is nobody in my family died when I caught it in Saigon (or Chiang Mai) airport in January from Chinese tourists, then infected my family. Me, bit of earache, blocked ears and a nasty cough for a month or two, misses laid out flat on the sofa with fever for 10 days, son fever for 3 days, daughter didn't get it, probably immune.

Oh well, that settles it...I declare the pandemic over and you should probably publish your study in the major medical journals..they have a lot to learn apparently. You do realize your rather limited sample size means nothing, right. We're you even tested ? You might have just had a cold

1 minute ago, tonray said:

Oh well, that settles it...I declare the pandemic over and you should probably publish your study in the major medical journals..they have a lot to learn apparently. You do realize your rather limited sample size means nothing, right. We're you even tested ? You might have just had a cold

It's good enough for me, I don't really care about your fear or your health.

The odd thing about COVID, I have to suffer because other people live in fear.

If you're scared, just stay locked in your home forever and you can't catch it ...... how easy is that?

No I wouldn't take it for a variety of reasons.

1 hour ago, Matzzon said:

What proof are you looking for? The ones that clearly state that the amount of deaths and infected are lower than the yearly flu? Or the ones that clearly state it´s a common virus that can be compared to a flu based om the registered victims and deaths?

 

Yes!  Till now all proof I saw was fabricated.

 

I just finished reading an article about people still having health issues after a mild infection of this flu. Months later they are still ill, it seems that this flu causes permanent damage to organs, even with people who were mildly infected and could stay at home to get better.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, tonray said:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

 

CDC estimates 12,000 to 61,000 deaths annually from flu in US

 

Since December 2019: almost 90,000 dead from Covid-19

Yes, as I also wrote in my post that you chosed to take out of the equation. Some countries have been affected more than others. 

Yes, US have a greater amount. Another time it´s other countries that suffer more than others. Do not try to make it more important just because Americans are dying. You have to look at the statistics for all of the world to get the picture.

6 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Kill the virus. Kill you same.

Yes, but he will still get rid of all the sick people. Agreed? ????

18 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

It's good enough for me, I don't really care about your fear or your health.

The odd thing about COVID, I have to suffer because other people live in fear.

If you're scared, just stay locked in your home forever and you can't catch it ...... how easy is that?

I wouldn't have put it that bluntly, but of course you are right.

And an 'in your face' response to irrational scare-mongering might after the initial outrage provoke some soul-searching with those living in fear.

 

2 hours ago, paddypower said:

Trump says he's taking hydroxychloroquine,

LOL, after spouting over 10,000 lies or un-truths publically.  Our POTUS's words should not be believed. ????

1 hour ago, smutcakes said:

Do you actually know many doctors are using it, or you are just repeating what DT said in his news conference?

Chulalunkorn Hospital as reported by a poster treated with it there a few weeks ago, he recovered, probably a disaapointment to the Trump haters

2 hours ago, khaowong1 said:

I would take it over taking some vaccine for dang sure.  

And then it should be legit to ask why you would do that? 

2 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Chulalunkorn Hospital as reported by a poster treated with it there a few weeks ago, he recovered, probably a disaapointment to the Trump haters

What kind of proof is that? One statement or any individual statement claiming they recovered by a medicine, that have not been proved in a scientic research that take a year or more to complete. 

If the people on Fox & Friends told me to take it I would.  They are my friends, why would they lie to me?  They are your friends too.

 

Really, though, I don't believe for one second DT is taking this stuff.

 

 

16 minutes ago, bendejo said:

If the people on Fox & Friends told me to take it I would.  They are my friends, why would they lie to me?  They are your friends too.

 

Really, though, I don't believe for one second DT is taking this stuff.

 

 

Fox, on hearing the Presidents announcement, strongly advised its viewers not to do as the president does. Unprecedented for Fox to openly go against Trump.

 

https://www.axios.com/hydroxychloroquine-trump-fox-news-neil-cavuto-be0928c6-7313-407f-9d93-5fb16037b2b6.html