Tears and heartbreak as flight ban keeps farang-Thai families apart

[AmericanSafety]

Going on 6 months now I haven't seen my wife and daughters. I'm here in Djibouti while they're in our house in Jomtien. I travel a lot for work but this is the longest separation so far. 

Edited May 23, 2020 by AmericanSafety

[HenryC]

35 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

Home many of those hold PR ?

 

I suspect most jump through the yearly immigrant hoops be they retirement or spouse based extensions or there of.

 

unless you hold PR you entry/existence here is only temporary.

If you don't work in Thailand, you'll never qualify for a PR. 

Most developed countries would recognise having a spouse or dependent in a country grounds for PR.

 

24 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

many of these "foreigners" that call Thailand home are offshore oil and gas workers and their shifts are structured to allow them to exploit the visa exempt entry that Thailand immigration allows.

 

On paper they are nothing more than short term tourists.

 

Wrong! Coming in and out on a 30 days stamp working offshore used to be possible many years ago but not under the current immigration rules. People doing this now are on marriage, dependent visas or even paying for the privileged via Thailand Elite.

[Don Mega]

41 minutes ago, P100 said:

What do you expect from an incompetent military givernment? To have people's needs at heart?? With badmouth Anoutin taking every chance to bash foreigners in his endless hate?? They hate us so much that they even let their own Thai people suffer just to keep us, (according Anoutin) not showering dirty farangs away. They don't care about ripped apart families, they don't care about mamas and children struggeling to survive without their dads. But I know, soon they will open the borders. Unfortunately only for Chinese. To flood in and buy Thailand. Farangs will still have to wait until they can prove that they take showers regularly...

do you think the Thai government (like many others) restricting the entry to only citizens to be a  a bad thing ?

[tribalfusion001]

36 minutes ago, paulikens said:

why october?

One of the tourism articles in the BP mentioned hoteliers getting ready for October.

 

They won't let in foreigners until things start to quieten down.

[Don Mega]

4 minutes ago, HenryC said:

If you don't work in Thailand, you'll never qualify for a PR. 

Most developed countries would recognise having a spouse or dependent in a country grounds for PR.

 

 

 

Work in Thailand is a requirement to qualify for a  PR................ I call boo <deleted> on that.

[luckyluke]

5 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

do you think the Thai government (like many others) restricting the entry to only citizens to be a  a bad thing ?

For me a good thing is allowing Thai citizens, foreigners with marriage visa, retirement visa, visa based on having children to take care off, work permit.

Foreigners who have no valid reason at all to come to Thailand, should not been taking in consideration actually.

Case by case should be considered by the Thai embassies.

[bristolgeoff]

I know some who are struck in other countries one in cnx and can not leave to return to the uk.Others  wanting to get back to thailand asap.all not possible at the moment.Everyone is waiting to return,end of the year nov dec I think I will be able to return.I also have things I need to take care of in thailand.but I know I have to wait end of the year.

      My friend has a bar in cnx from canada he also can not get back until all is clear.it is closed it may need some cleaning now but all this must wait until everyone is free to move around again

[Odin Norway]

1 hour ago, dallen52 said:

 

But These airlines know something that maybe we don't yet....

They know they can sell tickets and get some money in,and wait 6 months to pay you back.

[Keyser Soze666]

These days it's very easy to transfer money and then there is facetime or whatever to see the wife and sprogs as often as one pleases. I really don't think the Thai gov are going to read too much into tears and heartbreak and speed up any exceptions for these poor stranded farangs.

[Huckenfell]

9 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

How does allowing non-Thai people married to a local with a family to return and quarantine just like the Thais are (and pay for it themselves) increasing the risk of spreading anything? 

 

They would be in quarantine. 

 

9 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

How does allowing non-Thai people married to a local with a family to return and quarantine just like the Thais are (and pay for it themselves) increasing the risk of spreading anything? 

 

They would be in quarantine. 

Too many selfish inconsiderate people  with the "i alright jack" attitude in this world.

[somtumwrong]

8 hours ago, BritManToo said:

"Tears and heartbreak as flight ban keeps farang-Thai families apart"

 

The tears will only happen if the white guy stops sending money!

 

Haha, asked my wife 10 times if she needs money during the previous three months. "No". And as I cannot fly to the Land Of Silliness, she is now flying to me. "Do you need me to pay your tickets?" I ask her. "No."

 

Luckily she has to be in isolation in my country for two weeks, so no need to go shopping or any other BS when she arrives here ????

 

Her parents also decline to take any money ????

 

After three months, I don't miss coming to Thailand anymore. I only travel there due to my family. Life here in Northern Europe is so much better than in Thailand I have to say, after spending 7 years 50/50 in Thailand.

[Odin Norway]

1 hour ago, Don Mega said:

many of these "foreigners" that call Thailand home are offshore oil and gas workers and their shifts are structured to allow them to exploit the visa exempt entry that Thailand immigration allows.

 

On paper they are nothing more than short term tourists.

Oh please.That option was shut down 3 years ago.You are way out of date

[Keyser Soze666]

1 minute ago, somtumwrong said:

 

 

Luckily she has to be in isolation in my country for two weeks, so no need to go shopping or any other BS when she arrives here ????

 

 

Absolutely, imagine having to go out and actually do shopping. I am pleased for you that you don't have to suffer that ghastly ordeal.

[somtumwrong]

2 minutes ago, Keyser Soze666 said:

Absolutely, imagine having to go out and actually do shopping. I am pleased for you that you don't have to suffer that ghastly ordeal.

Thank you. Almost makes me cry to encounter a fellow man who has gone through the nightmare of endless shopping malls and wasting precious time at yet another Thai market to eat yet another Thai dish tasting the same.. Women should have a lot of friends to go shopping and eating with. In the end, the wife does not even buy anything because "it would be a waste of money." What about waste of time? ????

[laosnative]

1 hour ago, uhuh said:

So does Taiwan,  which so far is the only country that has successfully eradicated covid

If you mean, not recorded any new cases for a specific period, then look at Laos also.

40 days ....no new cases and no deaths at all from the virus.....

Yet still on Thailands list of dangerous countries.

Total control of borders wanted by Thailand, can be the only explanation. 

 

Edited May 23, 2020 by laosnative

[Greg O]

Everyone coming back is quarantined now...it's not a recommendation it's mandatory .

[Keyser Soze666]

2 minutes ago, somtumwrong said:

Thank you. Almost makes me cry to encounter a fellow man who has gone through the nightmare of endless shopping malls and wasting precious time at yet another Thai market to eat yet another Thai dish tasting the same.. Women should have a lot of friends to go shopping and eating with. In the end, the wife does not even buy anything because "it would be a waste of money." What about waste of time? ????

Agreed. The men here though usually only go as they have nothing else to do.

[Keyser Soze666]

3 minutes ago, Greg O said:

Everyone coming back is quarantined now...it's not a recommendation it's mandatory .

There aren't any flies on you are there.

[Greg O]

Why do people keep saying quarantines should be recommended ? The repatriation flights including mandatory quarantine on arrival program have been in effect since the scheduled flights were shutdown. Over and out ! 

[sead]

possible to go inside thailand if you are covid resistant

[Don Mega]

22 minutes ago, Odin Norway said:

Oh please.That option was shut down 3 years ago.You are way out of date

oil and gas workers no longer exploit the visa exempt thing

/

[jimn]

3 minutes ago, sead said:

possible to go inside thailand if you are covid resistant

Is that a question or a statement? If its a question the answer is NO. If its a statement you are wrong.

[JackThompson]

18 minutes ago, Odin Norway said:

1 hour ago, Don Mega said:

many of these "foreigners" that call Thailand home are offshore oil and gas workers and their shifts are structured to allow them to exploit the visa exempt entry that Thailand immigration allows.

 

On paper they are nothing more than short term tourists.

Oh please.That option was shut down 3 years ago.You are way out of date

Yes.  That 'crackdown, shut many guesthouses, etc, and put countless Thais out of work - for exactly no upside.   How DARE they spend their money here like that - sneaking in on visa-exempts (no Thai consulate on the oil rig).  Now they spend their considerable incomes in other countries, instead - where Thais cannot work.

 

Just more proof that govt-policies have NEVER been about what is good/best for Thais - so why would anyone conclude what is happening now is being done in their interest?

[connda]

And for any Foreign man or women even remotely contemplating marrying a Thai and having a family?  If you can't see that racial fear and hatred that those running this country have for you then you are truly blind.  Don't do it.  Don't even be tempted.
It's a trail of tears.

Breaking up families based on racial discrimination, racial hatred, and racial fear of all persons who are non-Thai is the norm.  A Thai-Foreign family as a human-right? Ignored by Thai authorities. Thailand for Thai people only, that's the norm. Everyone else?  Get out! 
Heck, not even the UN gives a da*m. 

[jimn]

2 hours ago, EricTh said:

Currently, there are no flights out for anyone but there is flights in for Thai citizens only.

 

So Thailand should at least allow flights out at least until the Pandemic improves which will be a long time for certain countries.

 

My predictions are:

April, May, June - no flights in for all foreigners

July, Aug.  - flights in for low risk countries (at the moment is China and South Korea)

 

If your country is on the high risk list, you will have to wait a long time.

 

Before making statements like that you should check your facts. Yes only Thai repatriation flights incoming agreed. However there are a few carriers flying out of Bangkok. Take flights to the UK for example. Non stop EVA flys on a Sunday. KLM and Lufthansa fly most days to the UK 1 stop.

[Keyser Soze666]

11 minutes ago, connda said:

And for any Foreign man or women even remotely contemplating marrying a Thai and having a family?  If you can't see that racial fear and hatred that those running this country have for you then you are truly blind.  Don't do it.  Don't even be tempted.
It's a trail of tears.

Breaking up families based on racial discrimination, racial hatred, and racial fear of all persons who are non-Thai is the norm.  A Thai-Foreign family as a human-right? Ignored by Thai authorities. Thailand for Thai people only, that's the norm. Everyone else?  Get out! 
Heck, not even the UN gives a da*m. 

Wouldn't disagree. My bed is made with wife and 2 kids, wallet empty etc. As much as I love my kids if I had my time again I wouldn't do it, I know I would be happier and richer now if I didn't..

 

All my missus does now is sit look into her ipad and eat.

[DrJack54]

24 minutes ago, connda said:

Breaking up families based on racial discrimination, racial hatred, and racial fear of all persons who are non-Thai is the norm.  A Thai-Foreign family as a human-right?

I'm not sure about this but throwing it out there....Have a UK mate who has been married to Thai for several years. Every time she visits UK she has to obtain a visa.

I'm Oz and have Thai partner several years. She has been to Oz many times on tourist visa. Even if I was married to her I can't just bring her along for a visit. I (she) would need a visa.

I like many live in Thailand. I doubt Au would allow Thai to enter even if married.

That of course excludes folk living in Au with Thai wife and have gone down the long and expensive marriage path for the Thai to obtain PR status.

Edited May 23, 2020 by DrJack54

[ray richards]

Like most Thai women when the newness of having a sucker farang to take care of them & family etc etc they don't look away from their iPad only to eat.

[pineapple01]

17 minutes ago, jimn said:

Before making statements like that you should check your facts. Yes only Thai repatriation flights incoming agreed. However there are a few carriers flying out of Bangkok. Take flights to the UK for example. Non stop EVA flys on a Sunday. KLM and Lufthansa fly most days to the UK 1 stop.

My Wifes Friend and Daughter came back from Switzerland 2 weeks ago ,cant be that tiresome because ive not heard her moaning about it, and moaning is her forte.

[Ranshoko]

3 hours ago, Zikomat said:

 Many of those "stranded abroad" are in fact just the temporary sponsors on temporary permits of stay.  Remember: only a Thai person can be a husband to a Thai. I know it sounds harsh but this is the way the Thais see the world (including your so called wives). Wait until the borders reopen, get another tourist-like marriage visa and come back to your partner.

 

 

This is a sensible assessment and in fact is reality. Farangs will never be classed on the same level as a Thai.

 

In a lot of cases the Farang's wife has been married to a Thai before. She has one or several kids.

 

When the  "Sponser" (Husband, BF etc) dies or they separate / divorce the "Wife" moves on and finds a new Sponsor. This is fact seen it many times. Farangs are used as stepping stones by Thai ladies.

 

Some will live with 2, 3 or more Farangs in their lifetime, accruing wealth as they go along. Just accept the role of the "Sponsor" and enjoy your time with your chosen Lady. If you're not happy pull the plug and find another. Plenty Ladies in Thailand looking for a "Handsome" Sponsor.