Pilotman Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, teatime101 said: Yes, but it's a different issue. These protests are specifically about longterm institutional racism against blacks. You can start your own worthwhile campaign, no problem, and I'll cheer you for it. yes, I realise that, but its narrowness, while perfectly understandably, is already getting distorted. For example, the Authorities and the Police may say, and do say, that most crime in America is perpetrated by African Americans. They say that George Floyd was not a nice person anyway, that the ghettos are full of African Americans dealing drugs and all kinds of crimes, all manner of other BS arguments. They use this to justify violence and discrimination. The message is already getting warped, as the Authorities kick back and the riots become an excuse for some to loot and react violently. A wider campaign that includes all of human kind can last longer and will not have false arguments attached, in other words, it is much harder to fight against. Edited June 7, 2020 by Pilotman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 27 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Not a very nice way to treat the statue of a truly great president who risked it all to help abolish slavery and bring the country back on track, but hatred is and has always run deep in people You can not fix perception or jadedness that people feel, and you never will able to change peoples hearts and minds..... The nob heads that did it are out for the day just to vandalise and cause trouble, more than likely didn't know who the statue was. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post evadgib Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, teatime101 said: Yes, but it's a different issue. These protests are specifically about longterm institutional racism against blacks. You can start your own worthwhile campaign, no problem, and I'll cheer you for it. These MSM orchestrated protests are specifically geared towards a globalist agenda and it's time everyone realised they're being played. Where is the outrage re the ethnic cleansing of white farmers in SA? 3 1 1 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 1 hour ago, spidermike007 said: Apparently in the US, one of the major problems seems to be the Police Unions. The reason why the murderer Chauvin was allowed to continue to work, after 12 (up to 17, depending on the source) citations for violence and previous murders, was the union. They put up such a fight. The captain wanted him fired. So did the city council, apparently, some time ago. Yet, he prevailed due to thew power of his morally and ethically corrupt union. These demonstrations around the world are a wonderful thing. Alot of white people just do not get it. Most of my white friends do not get it. As a white person it is very difficult to have any perspective on this. I have always had alot of black and hispanic friends, and I see what they deal with. I particularly recommend this study done by Ben and Jerry's. Yes, those ice cream guys. It is very well done, and has alot of good information. Very good reading for some of the white people who do not have a clue. Since the election of Donald Trump, hate crimesOpens a new window have been on the rise. White supremacistsOpens a new window have been emboldened. Anti-immigrantOpens a new window rhetoric has intensified. We condemn these awful examples of prejudice and bias and hate, but systemic racism is something different. It’s less about violence or burning crossesOpens a new window than it is about everyday decisions made by people who may not even think of themselves as racist. As sociologist Eduardo Bonilla-Silva has saidOpens a new window, "The main problem nowadays is not the folks with the hoods, but the folks dressed in suits." https://www.benjerry.com/home/whats-new/2016/systemic-racism-is-real Come on man Ben and Jerry’s ice cream espousing a perfect society and that the hoods aren’t the problem anymore it’s the suits! Seems to me all colors have been wearin suits for many decades. If People want change go vote for it. Don’t go around preaching your cause during chaos ,destruction and violence such as BLM,to achieve change ,that people have struggled with since the beginning of humanity ! What happen to George was committed by a sick human being. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sqwakvfr Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 CHICAGO -- 27 people were killed and at least 65 others were wounded by gun violence in Chicago's most violent weekend of the year so far, which also saw widespread protests, riots and looting throughout the city in the wake of the Minneapolis police killing of George Floyd. This was last weekend. The Chicago Police did not kill any of the 27. So where is BLM on the numbers in Chicago. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, roo860 said: The nob heads that did it are out for the day just to vandalise and cause trouble, more than likely didn't know who the statue was. Sort of like the Thai's who wear nazi clothing and Hitler shirts.....truly unschooled people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post evadgib Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, roo860 said: The nob heads that did it are out for the day just to vandalise and cause trouble, more than likely didn't know who the statue was. Statues of Wellington, Churchilll & the Cenotaph in London copped it yesterday too. I'd have the culprits cleaning them with a toothbrush on live webcam as suitable punishment; along with loss of job where applicable. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said: CHICAGO -- 27 people were killed and at least 65 others were wounded by gun violence in Chicago's most violent weekend of the year so far, which also saw widespread protests, riots and looting throughout the city in the wake of the Minneapolis police killing of George Floyd. This was last weekend. The Chicago Police did not kill any of the 27. So where is BLM on the numbers in Chicago. Black on Black violence does not matter to BLM, its only White on Black or LE on Black that is their agenda. When a black officer shot a black assailant he was called a Member of the Government with a White attitude....go figure... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sukhumvitneon Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, The Barmbeker said: "...but ...but...but...he had a criminal record" (which makes it okay to kill him, I guess!) How would you feel if a man broke into your house and aimed a firearm at your pregnant wife's stomach? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post evadgib Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 26 minutes ago, The Barmbeker said: A new thread, but the same old band of racists, right-wingers, Trump- fanboys and whataboutism'ers are out in droves! "...but ...but...but...he had a criminal record" (which makes it okay to kill him, I guess!) "...but...but...but...there are bad people in the BLM movement" " ...but...but...but...what about black on black - crime" (replace that by every other injustice on the face of the Earth, especially if you can point to something, thatalso happens to white- people) "...but ...but...but...all the protesters are (ore shield) extreme lefty, treehugging, socialist, communist, Antifa leaders..." Yet with the same general sweep you have outed yourself as a millennial or perhaps a born again Woodstock-er???? 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, sukhumvitneon said: How would you feel if a man broke into your house and aimed a firearm at your pregnant wife's stomach? I would shoot him dead where he stood regardless of his race, color or creed. My house is my castle and I will defend it with everything I have. However, if he had already fled and retreated outside, then the door is bolted, and he can go on his way, until he has been arrested. If he resists and aims a firearm at the LE, well then he made his mind up and it is deemed suicide by cop.... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post evadgib Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 1 hour ago, pegman said: In my own Canadian hometown, an 8 hour drive from Minneapolis, 15,000 protested in support of American blacks yesterday. It's unbelievable that in 2020 this sort of nonsense is still happening. I think it is past time other countries started taking some serious action to put a stop to the continuing violence and discrimination against American blacks. The election of a well-known racist like Trump (birther/Central Park 5) should have triggered action previously. Taking a page out of their own playbook sanctions at a minimum need to be applied. They should be removal from the G7. Russia has done its time out and like Trump has stated they should be returned to the club. That would keep it at G7. After that the moving vans should be brought in and pack up the UN. Canada is a short drive away and we are prepared to build a new headquarters. A list of demands intended to put an end to the inherent and systemic racial discrimination will be forwarded to the American government. Should they comply they will then be allowed to re-join the global community. Hasn't your own bloke blacked up and taken the knee? 1 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Pilotman said: This needs to be widened. All lives matter, black, white and any other colour in between. Police brutality, societies indifference to discrimination of all kinds, individual racism, institutional racism in large, small, medium organisations and within governments, they are all evil and need to be eradicated. I would like to see this world wide protest expand into a demand for respect for all lives and an end to all discrimination. A noble cause! Surely,tweaks to enforcement can be and must be instituted for all lives Edited June 7, 2020 by riclag 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 45 minutes ago, Siamjim said: <SNIP>if people do research on BLM they will see BLM has connection with Jihadist and Hamas .... Iran Ayatollah Khamenei is on record showing praises and support to BLM....... BTW > don't use google search..you'll never find it there It's usual on TV to backup claims with links - go on be honest, let's see your source/s of info for BLM liaison with Jihadists 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalfusion001 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 5 hours ago, CorpusChristie said: Just when the World was getting the Corona virus under control, this comes along and will cause the virus to spread further . Many people congregating and spreading a deadly disease and shouting about "lives matter" , stop spreading the virus if lives matter so much No proof that it will spread further, the British police were not wearing masks in Downing Street, but 95% of the protesters were. So if covid-19 is such a threat in London why would the police not be wearing masks! If there is a spike in London that will be because the government is fixing the figures suit the agenda. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post roo860 Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said: No proof that it will spread further, the British police were not wearing masks in Downing Street, but 95% of the protesters were. So if covid-19 is such a threat in London why would the police not be wearing masks! If there is a spike in London that will be because the government is fixing the figures suit the agenda. Wearing masks to hide their faces more like! Police should have been gas masks and tear gassed the cretins. Edited June 7, 2020 by roo860 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyril sneer Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Instagram are now removing any posts containing photos of black crime statistics it'll only get worse 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tribalfusion001 Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Phuketshrew said: So if the 75 year old white guy that was pushed over by police in Buffalo dies is everyone going to take to the streets all over the world for "White Lives Matter" ? That has been all over the media too and the cops are being charged, but his colleagues all resigned from the riot squad. No excuse pushing a 75 year old over and casuing head injuries. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 6 hours ago, bert bloggs said: If they matter so much ,why do far more of them constantly kill each other? That's because of the poverty, low education, and denying of opportunity imposed on them by the despicable white race. Well according to some it is! And many in other countries are jumping on the bandwagon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 1 minute ago, tribalfusion001 said: That has been all over the media too and the cops are being charged, but his colleagues all resigned from the riot squad. No excuse pushing a 75 year old over and casuing head injuries. I agree. There was no reason to shove someone that age like that. What's worse the police just looked at him, none really bothered to help. But a couple of servicemen went over to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 Lots of protesting, but I still don't know exactly what it is they want changed. Maybe they want more protests so they can join more parties. The "support" protests look like metoo-wannabies. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, evadgib said: These MSM orchestrated protests are specifically geared towards a globalist agenda and it's time everyone realised they're being played. Where is the outrage re the ethnic cleansing of white farmers in SA? Ah, the cry that everything is media orchestrated and part of a globalist agenda does make my day. Thanks Edited June 7, 2020 by Bluespunk 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodga Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 3 hours ago, FritsSikkink said: This is about racist police, don't deflect. Nope its about "Black lives matter', in the title 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: I agree. There was no reason to shove someone that age like that. What's worse the police just looked at him, none really bothered to help. But a couple of servicemen went over to him. I agree they should not have done that but I also think he should not have been there provoking a reaction. He's a well known activist who set out to break the law and he's achieved his goal of provoking those Police. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalfusion001 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, roo860 said: Wearing masks to hide their faces more like! Police should have been gas masks and tear gassed the cretins. And tear gassing really works well in the USA, inflame things even more. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said: No proof that it will spread further, the British police were not wearing masks in Downing Street, but 95% of the protesters were. So if covid-19 is such a threat in London why would the police not be wearing masks! If there is a spike in London that will be because the government is fixing the figures suit the agenda. Simply wearing a mask will not stop a person contracting/spreading the virus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 3 hours ago, bodga said: It kills more Blacks than Whites too even the virus is racist now https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/20/black-americans-death-rate-covid-19-coronavirus But Africa, which has more blacks than whites, hasn't been as affected as the US. Or Europe. More sophistry from the Guardian. Poor people haven't been wiped out in droves around the globe either. Much more meaningful and reliable research is needed, by professional, before real conclusions and learning points can be established. Not hack journalists twisting things to make political points. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalfusion001 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, DrTuner said: Lots of protesting, but I still don't know exactly what it is they want changed. Maybe they want more protests so they can join more parties. The "support" protests look like metoo-wannabies. All of the protests are growing in strength, each individual country has it's own agenda for protesting and the common theme of police brutality. As the protests grow it will more like anti-government protests, looks unstoppable same as the virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rudi49jr Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Berkshire said: Yes, it's bad enough that blacks get discriminated against by society. But when they get it from law enforcement as well, it's hard to endure day after day. I mean, why bother trying to be law-abiding and productive members of society when the police will treat you like criminals regardless. As a basis for comparison, white parents never have to teach their kids how to act in public so that the police won't beat the cr-p out of you or worse. And "Just do what the police says" doesn't usually work if you're black. I did a little experiment a few years ago with a white friend and two black friends. We drove all the way across America, coast to coast, in two cars. Me and my white friend in an old beat-up clunker, and we were dressed like bums, and our two black friends in a very nice and almost brand new Corolla, and they looked very smart, dressed to the nines. Want to know how many times I and my white friend, both looking like white trash, were pulled over by the cops, and how many times our very respectable looking black friends were pulled over? I won't even go into how they were treated in hotels, restaurants and bars and such. I can tell you, that trip was a real eye-opener for me. I always knew there was quite a bit of racism in the USA, but never knew it was that bad. If I were treated like that every day of my life, I would be one very p*ssed-off dude, that's for sure. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalfusion001 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: Simply wearing a mask will not stop a person contracting/spreading the virus So why wasn't the police wearing masks in Downing Street? It's because there is no covid-19 threat in London. There is no need to break up groups of more than six. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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