Pattaya: City unveils ambitious plans to transform Bali Hai as 7 million more tourists expected soon

[GlassWayOverHalfFull]

34 minutes ago, jaiyen said:

Someones company got a good earner doing fantasy drawings ! So many mistakes. The sea is never going to be a nice blue, and will never see Ferraris cruising. only old motorbikes with sidecars ! Who would pay money to go on a Ferris wheel just to look at the sea ?

Hmm - 3 doors down from me on Cosy Beach there is a nice new lambourghini parked in the drive. In the garage of my condo a Porsche Cayenne Turbo and Merc 63 AMG. 

 

No idea where in Pattaya you live I'm guessing Nirun condo, that's if you even live here at all?

[Brunolem]

Only casinos could bring Pattaya back from the dead...and the tourists back from their anti-covid bunkers.

 

And not Poipet style casinos, they would have to bring in the Vegas guys, like they did in Macau.

 

But a government who can't stand the idea of people drinking a glass of beer will always oppose these impure gambling places.

[Emdog]

Does look like something out of The Jetsons cartoon. Did anyone visit the site? Was this same firm that made abomination of Jomtien Beach road? Have they ever walked, other than to their car? A desert would look less sterile than this rendering.

[RICO86]

Singapore, Hong Kong, New York NOT!

DAYDREAMERS AND DESPERADOS ????????

[soalbundy]

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt......Mark Twain

[Colabamumbai]

Let me know just before the millions arrive. 

[soalbundy]

3 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

T.A.T. man must have come out of Covid-19 self isolation, and now his proposed figures are even more propesterous ! 

He has to get his facts right first, only then can he distort them as he pleases.

[nauseus]

If the arrival of these 7 million tourists is imminent then I don't think it will be ready in time. Just my guess of course.

[wensiensheng]

1. Why is it a Central Business District if it’s not in the centre and is intended as a leisure activity area for tourists.

 

2. I don’t see much shade. Do they know it’s hot here for most of the year?

[Cake Monster]

4 hours ago, smedly said:

I see western side of WS is still painted in, until that rotten disgusting eyesore is removed and the beach is restored it will remain just that - an eyesore 

Part of your wish may come true.

I read this Morning in a National Newspaper out of Bangkok, that 589 Million Baht was to be spent on making Jomtien Beach wider and longer

All the way from NaJomtien to Pratamnack

There is only one word that is suitable for this kind expenditure, when Thousands of Thai people are starving and struggling due to Covid 19

 OBSCENE 

[spiekerjozef]

it's called science-fiction...

[crazykopite]

Thailand will be lucky if they get 7 million tourists this year the way things are going . Who the hell comes up with these figures that’s why they call it “ Amazing Thailand “

[Brunolem]

26 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

Part of your wish may come true.

I read this Morning in a National Newspaper out of Bangkok, that 589 Million Baht was to be spent on making Jomtien Beach wider and longer

All the way from NaJomtien to Pratamnack

There is only one word that is suitable for this kind expenditure, when Thousands of Thai people are starving and struggling due to Covid 19

 OBSCENE 

Unless they plan to have the work done by hand and to recruit a few thousand unemployed to do it... 

 

Anyway the poster you answered to was talking about Walking Street, not Jomtien, and the need to remove the horrendous constructions obstructing the access to what used to be a beach. 

 

There has been talk about that for decades, but the problem is that a lot of the brown envelopes are coming directly from these constructions... 

Edited June 13, 2020 by Brunolem

[Walker88]

The world is riddled with ocean resorts with great sunsets aimed at high end visitors. It hardly needs another one. Also, the likelihood the water will ever be clean and not just a dumping ground for waste and refuse of the 25 million who live in the Rayong to Bangkok corridor is slim to none. Nobody is going to pay top dollar for a beach resort where one is likely to pick up some nasty parasites from the water.

 

They would do better to think small and go after a much poorer target market, because that way they might possibly turn a profit. Their niche market is likely the $15-20K/year Chinese or Russian factory worker, who takes one vacation a year, or the expat retiree who gets a pension of maybe $4K/month. Pattaya is a 50 baht t-shirt kind of retail venue, not a place to sell $700 Stefano Ricci shirts. High end dining in Patts is McDonalds or Rasputin, not The French Laundry. If they think it's going to be all Ferrari drivers who normally stay at the Oriental or Pebble Beach Lodge or the Savoy, they'd better apply now for a bailout and save time, because it's a guaranteed failure.

 

They may not like the current image and reputation of Pattaya, but it draws a more affluent crowd on average than if it was just another polluted beach resort with no naughty nightlife. Right now they are somewhat unique, even if they wish they were known for something other than carnal pursuits.

[connda]

5 hours ago, brucec64 said:

They still haven't completed the first Bali Hai marina fiasco - what makes them think they can pull this off?

But, but, but - millions and millions of rich tourist come soon.  Make big, big money!!!

[Kerryd]

21 minutes ago, crazykopite said:

Thailand will be lucky if they get 7 million tourists this year the way things are going . Who the hell comes up with these figures that’s why they call it “ Amazing Thailand “

Note it says "by 2023".

Which may still be somewhat optimistic. Especially when they think the new "Walking Street" project won't be finished until 2025, which would mean that the whole area would be a construction nightmare for at least the next 4 1/2 years.
Just what all those 7 million tourists want to come here to see. A tiny stretch of crappy beach full of refuse and a couple kilometers of construction hidden behind barricades.

Awesome !

[newnative]

Make no small plans.   If you've ever been over to that area the views across the bay to Pattaya Beach are spectacular.  Right now it is a total wasteland with tons of potential.  Glad to see they are making some plans but don't take forever with meeting after meeting.  Get cracking.  

[GAZZPA]

4 hours ago, colinneil said:

What they say and what will actually happen is not the same is it.

Pattaya was dying before the virus struck, so i think somebody is being overly optomistic, it aint gonna happen.

I personally think Thailand has made it's bed regarding it's treatment of foreigners. They bit the hand that has fed them for so many years and now they will feel the pinch. (2 tired, old sayings in a row ????) Hopefully one day soon a properly elected government will be put back into power and Thailand can go through the process of reinvention. 

[newnative]

5 hours ago, aguy30 said:

All of the pictures look like a cartoon fantasy land that has absolutely no resemblance to the land available in the real Pattaya.

The streets are far to narrow to accommodate loosing a lane to a monorail as the can barely handle the existing traffic now. Only 3 stops are planned for 2nd Road and no one is going to walk to and from a distant monorail stop. Traffic will be far worse than now.

    Actually most of the main roads are fairly wide.  They just need to eliminate the parking and you gain 2 extra lanes on most of the main roads.  

[Traubert]

50 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

likely the $15-20K/year Chinese

They dont get out of bed for that.

[Namjohn]

These "planners" need to get out more often. Go and see the real world.

 

[Accidental Tourist]

This city was always good for a joke...and still is.

[Miss Pickle]

Sadly I don’t think Pattaya will see 7 Million tourists for a long time.Not this year anyway. Most people will be too nervous to Travel .

[denis911]

 Another rambling from some dilusional dreamer, so what disposable income are these 5-7 million tourists going to use as spending money after most of them have been on low pay or no pay for over the last 3+ months, morgages, rents, banks, credit card repayments and catching up with utilities will take far more importance than holidays to far of places. If most people take holidays in the next 1-2 years, my guess they will stay at domestic resorts in their own countries. Just saying.

[NoshowJones]

2 hours ago, Brunolem said:

Only casinos could bring Pattaya back from the dead...and the tourists back from their anti-covid bunkers.

 

And not Poipet style casinos, they would have to bring in the Vegas guys, like they did in Macau.

 

But a government who can't stand the idea of people drinking a glass of beer will always oppose these impure gambling places.

If the governments personal income streams go down getting caused by the lack of tourists, then the casinos will arrive.

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, GlassWayOverHalfFull said:

I have no idea how they go through life with such a cynical attitude.

Being drunk 24/7 helps a lot!

[spidermike007]

They are pulling these zany numbers out of a hat and continue with insane plans to attract the rich. Will these incompetents ever accept the fact that rich tourists have spent the past decade shunning Thailand and the few who make it here never return for a dozen good, valid and sensible reasons, which I have articulated a dozen times before.  

 

The love of concrete continues as well as the disregard for the environment. They could have and should have included some green spaces for the people to enjoy, like a seaside park. 

[GAZZPA]

12 minutes ago, denis911 said:

 Another rambling from some dilusional dreamer, so what disposable income are these 5-7 million tourists going to use as spending money after most of them have been on low pay or no pay for over the last 3+ months, morgages, rents, banks, credit card repayments and catching up with utilities will take far more importance than holidays to far of places. If most people take holidays in the next 1-2 years, my guess they will stay at domestic resorts in their own countries. Just saying.

correct, of course you are correct. However despite the obvious situation the Thai Tourism goons are not capable of applying common sense. They will simply promise things that don't happen and then create some bizarre story as to why the predictions didn't happen,, that usually involves assigning blame to someone or something. 

[Justgrazing]

7 hours ago, rooster59 said:

The artist impressions show wide open boulevards with Ferraris

later to be repatriated to Italy in a 1000 pieces after getting wrapped round power poles ..

[misterphil]

Some clown been sniffing glue again. ????????????