Thai media 'exaggerating' Covid-19 situation in Beijing

[LomSak27]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30389613

 

-- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-06-15

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[johnarth]

carnt wait it will be good, someone up high has told him to keep his trap shut but this is to good to miss god the people of the world are seeing it big time now, stay home you idiots lol it is going to get worse the question is where from no country has it any more, will have to keep an eye on the Chinese army if they get it there will be no stopping it

[DrJack54]

5 minutes ago, SkyFax said:

Were the salmon wearing masks?

No need. They don't drink alcohol.

[newatthis]

52 minutes ago, car720 said:

Not so.  I have family there that I trust that are saying exactly the same.

And from whom did they hear it?

[metisdead]

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[Captain Monday]

4 hours ago, rvaviator said:

Well .. I live in Beijing and based on my experience what Bo Siwattra is saying reflect what I see and experience. 

 

Apparently a chopping board used for cutting up salmon was found to have the virus on it in that market.

Who touched the cutting board? If it came in from abroad who processed/handled the salmon in Norway?

 

[spiekerjozef]

Good, if the wet markets still going on in china this is the news they deserve.

[ExpatOilWorker]

China started this Corona club, they aren't leaving yet.

[Expat Tom]

I suspect that this lady is a CCPT troll.

[gmmarvin]

I would be more leery of Farmed Norwegian Salmon, with all the chemicals used, then Covid-19

[Stargeezr]

Sounds like the Chinese propaganda machine is right close to the

government. Deny Deny Deny^.

^{Maybe they are trying to copy some other country leader.}

^Geezer 

[DirtyHarry55]

Lol so it was Norwegian Salmon and not Pangolins which are responsible?

Seriously do they not learn?
Next watch Them ban Norwegian Salmon here because they believe everything that comes out of Beijing.

 

[hotchilli]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

She revealed that Chinese doctors expect a second wave of the virus to hit in September. The medical authorities are surprised by the new infections after 55 days without cases

That'll be about the time Thailand allow flights from China back in... great news, wave them in !!

[lks7689]

52 minutes ago, Almer said:

I try and avoid them not just because of C19 but due to disgusting habits and arrogant attitude

your attitude sums up TVF. Its crawling with arrogant and disgusting people like you. 

[Max69xl]

6 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Payed parrot ..

Exactly. People don't need to read Thai media,they can read international media if they want to know what's happening in China. 

[AgMech Cowboy]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

“All Thais need to do is just listen, not panic over this. In the area where I live, people are still going out as usual as the [Chinese] government has campaigned to stimulate domestic tourism. Today, people still live normally. Nobody has hoarded any food or products.”

 

6 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Payed parrot ..

Bingo!!! 

I've seen on other news outlets not heavily influenced by the China nationalist and their propaganda wing that the COVID-19 infections are far from being under control.

 

4 hours ago, rvaviator said:

Apparently a chopping board used for cutting up salmon was found to have the virus on it in that market.

Yes. Spread there by a locally infected person or object. The virus would not have continued to live on dead tissue during the shipping process (IMHO). 

[rvaviator]

4 hours ago, ukrules said:

That's what happens when the person doing the cutting is infected with COVID.

 

It's not a reason to stop selling salmon in retailers.

 

There's a lot more to this than we currently know. I look forward to more information on the issue, especially input from the Norwegians.

 

Actually what is also interesting in all of this - Frozen salmon come mostly from South America - Chilled salmon generally come from Norway.

 

A chopping board can be used for chopping up many things ???? ... Who knows what was chopped up before the salmon ...

 

Oh .. and the population of Beijing is about 20 million ... Norway is about 5 million (not counting the salmon ????  ..)

[Isaan sailor]

I don’t believe anything coming out of Beijing. 

[rvaviator]

2 hours ago, ftpjtm said:

Did you raise your score on the Chinese Social Credit system with this comment?

HaHa .... Believe what you want.  Clearly if you do not believe what I say you will not believe that in my view you statement is ridicules.

 

I assume you work for the CIA then or maybe a  Trump supporter ??  ????

 

[SkyFax]

11 minutes ago, rvaviator said:

Actually what is also interesting in all of this - Frozen salmon come mostly from South America - Chilled salmon generally come from Norway.

By the end of this year fresh salmon from Norway will be transported to China by rail. This will be done through Russia, which now permits the transit of previously sanctioned products through its territory. Micael Blom, railway consultant in the Nordic countries is fully engaged with this groundbreaking new supply chain.

JUL 2019 

 https://www.railfreight.com/beltandroad/2019/07/30/fresh-norwegian-salmon-on-the-train-to-china/?gdpr=accept

 

Edited June 15, 2020 by SkyFax

[nuckyt77]

Same as they did with the outbreak in Wuhan ... in January fools like this called that exaggerated too and look where it got us. There is only 1 thing the rest of the world should do: keep the Chinese out.... but of course as Thailand wants to become a new province of China they can let these "healthy" tourists in. I for one will stay out of this land of lies.

[rvaviator]

2 hours ago, bluesofa said:

Maybe sent the report via homing pigeon to somewhere that FB is not barred.

Well you do know that FB is banned in China (and so is TV ???? ..)

[Knocker33]

7 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Payed parrot ..

Probably frelances for Reuters who have about as much credbilty as WHO. 

Not only Thai in the Thai media it's worldwide. Obviously worried it's going to burst that travel bubble

[steelepulse]

2 minutes ago, rvaviator said:

Well you do know that FB is banned in China (and so is TV ???? ..)

Don't most people just use a vpn to access information outside of the great firewall?

[rvaviator]

1 hour ago, Almer said:

So the chopping board USED  to cut salmon, not the salmon, big difference.

Yep .... Very true.

 

[rvaviator]

3 minutes ago, steelepulse said:

Don't most people just use a vpn to access information outside of the great firewall?

Yes that is what most foreigners do ..... Not all VPN work in China.

[Deli]

5 hours ago, rvaviator said:

Well .. I live in Beijing and based on my experience what Bo Siwattra is saying reflect what I see and experience. 

 

Apparently a chopping board used for cutting up salmon was found to have the virus on it in that market.

If this is the case, it means very poor hygene standards in the market ( whi9ch would not surprise me, having lived also in China ) and the question is: How did it get conterminated. By the food having ben cut on it before or through the worker using it ? I option for the 2nd as I doubt that the virous would survive a very cold and long trip for Norway to the Beijing market

 

[SkyFax]

36 minutes ago, Deli said:

I doubt that the virous would survive a very cold and long trip for Norway to the Beijing market

Effects of Air Temperature and Relative Humidity on Coronavirus Survival on Surfaces -- March 2010

 

(From Abstract) At 4 degrees C, infectious virus persisted for as long as 28 days, and the lowest level of inactivation occurred at 20% RH. Inactivation was more rapid at 20 degrees C than at 4 degrees C at all humidity levels; the viruses persisted for 5 to 28 days, and the slowest inactivation occurred at low RH.

 

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/41943627_Effects_of_Air_Temperature_and_Relative_Humidity_on_Coronavirus_Survival_on_Surfaces

 

Note: Per linked article above, the train trip for fresh salmon from Norway to China would be 12-14 days.

Edited June 15, 2020 by SkyFax

[Peterphuket]

7 hours ago, ukrules said:

1 - Where is it going to come from in September if it's gone? They have quarantines on all international flights, nobody gets in without passing through the quarantine. This is admitting failure before even attempting to win.

 

2 - Just because they didn't detect any cases for 55 days it does not mean that it's gone. Perhaps there's an as yet unknown reservoir.

 

Blaming it on salmon, lol ????

 

Salmon contains plenty of Vit D that is thought may help against infections, now we're supposed to believe salmon (specifically salmon from Norway) itself is a problem, if I was a 'conspiracy nut' I would think they're attempting to get people to stop eating salmon to increase spread of the disease.

 

I wonder what they did in Norway to annoy the Chinese (Nobel prizes?). Norways infections are way down the list of infected countries. They did a much better job than China.

 

The Japanese eat a lot of salmon......look at the figures for Japan.

I think you misinterpret is, in the reporting I have read, was the cutting board on which the fish was cut, the problem

My information came from the Chinese newspaper (SCMP) including a movie where you can see what and where it happens.

[FinChin67]

Update. I think it's getting out of hand as it spread to Liaoning already. Let's see. The same continues in China, they never learn. Just jail anyone opposing the tyranny. Might go to lockdown again.

 

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