State of emergency set to be extended through July

[metisdead]

Some inflammatory posts, troll posts and the replies have been removed.

[Max69xl]

"agreed to extend the state of emergency for another month to prevent a second wave of contagion after schools reopen next week."

Why would there be a second wave after schools reopen? Shouldn't any infected student(s) already been spreading the virus in their home provinces and elsewhere when the curfew and lockdowns were lifted? But,there are no increase in local cases according to the government,only imported cases by homecoming thai nationals. Where's the logic in the governments reasoning? It's only about control. 

[FigaroLucowski]

I wonder if Thai Visa has considered discontinuing the posting of comments and instead covering their pages with ads only?  

[SupermarineS6B]

  On 6/25/2020 at 12:23 PM, steven100 said:

if it doesn't suit your lifestyle then it is best to look elsewhere .... Brazil maybe   ?

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Typical Thai answer..... "You no like , you go home"...... Don't worry mush they'll be no one here shortly...... 

[elliss]

  On 6/25/2020 at 3:13 PM, spiekerjozef said:

Is entering a 7/11 and writing your name down considered a covid19 test?

Then they did a lot of testing...

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       I put Alien , in the name column . No problem .

 

         When the schools reopen ,  Kids we be required to wear face masks, all day .

          If  there remains a threat , schools should not open ..

      

[sandyf]

  On 6/25/2020 at 12:00 PM, Thaiwrath said:

<Deleted> told you, anyone who still thinks this is about the virus, that has not appeared for 31 days, is delusional ! 

Control, control and more control !

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You really are a one trick pony. The emergency decree has been amended at least 9 times already and will continue to be amended probably for some time to come. It provides the government with flexible control rather than having some in the hands of provincial governors.

NZ was a prime example of why any government must be extremely cautious.

[drbeach]

  On 6/26/2020 at 6:51 AM, Percy P said:

one month. Australian are in lockdown until next year. No flights in or out of the country. Foolishly my friend went back and is seething to get away, so we won't be able to meet up until next year. 

I hope to be heading to Penang when Malaysian boarders are open. 

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Malaysian border won't open until September at the earliest, and even then, probably with stringent conditions like quarantines.

[sungod]

Right on comrades!!!!

 

Stop getting your knickers in a twist...... ????

[sungod]

  On 6/26/2020 at 6:58 AM, Percy P said:

 

I have no trouble with the lockdown, what's your problem. Beer.

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Learnt that lesson, keep a minimum of 10 crates in the store room. ????

[Bangkok Barry]

There have been no reported new cases of the virus in Thailand for a month, except for a handful of Thais returning from overseas who were placed in quarantine. Clearly, then, the virus has been eradicated from the country. If no-one has it and all outsiders are banned from freely entering the country then there is absolutely zero chance of anyone catching it. That is obvious. So it is equally obvious that a continued state of emergency is nothing more than a political ploy. The spokesperson even said it isn't, which confirms the opposite.

[Bangkok Barry]

  On 6/25/2020 at 11:46 PM, scorecard said:

Take a look at what's happened in the US in the last 24 hrs, spreading even more quickly and very big numbers.

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I don't think the US went over 30 days without any new cases, did it? Pretty stupid comparison to make, then.

[sapson]

  On 6/25/2020 at 12:00 PM, Thaiwrath said:

<Deleted> told you, anyone who still thinks this is about the virus, that has not appeared for 31 days, is delusional ! 

Control, control and more control !

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They already have total control.

 

Not elected through a normal system, but they do exactly as they please, ....crazy policies at times and they act with impunity where corruption,fabrication of the facts and total lack of transparency is the normal modus operandi to suit their pockets and aspirations of longevity or government.

 

Who can stop them or oppose them with any degree of success or personal safety? anyone with enough money and influence on the population to unseat them is removed or silenced one way or the other.

 

The covid situation they have scripted the results from the start a few months ago a politician suggested their would be around 3000k cases and far less than 100 deaths.....a stunning clairvoyant i dont think so.

 

The absolute miniscule testing domestically is just accepted and they announce their virus policy as a winner

 never mind the deaths or sickness just dont associate it with covid  let the farce continue and welcome back the Chinese in a corruption bubble.........that seems highly unlikely to burst in the near future.

 

 

[Ajarnbrian]

Sensible measures in view of the return to school next month. Thailand`s government and people have done well in containing the virus spread, as have Taiwan, Hong Kong, S Korea, Australia and NZ.

[nong38]

More at risk businesses will have to shut down for good. If the figures the Government are pedaling are to be believed then there is no reason to not to ease a little more to give confidence, they should stop looking at the Chinese cheap charlies they will only end in tears and bring the virus running back, someone should remind them where is started. A boost to internal tourism and more clarity would be a start but the fear of a second wave which may or may not come as the sum of all fears seems to be their current Mantra, how long do we have to wait? You could wait for ever but I wont be around then, like many and I want a life.

[Paiman]

  On 6/25/2020 at 11:55 AM, snoop1130 said:

Gen Somsak said members had agreed to extend the state of emergency for another month to prevent a second wave of contagion after schools reopen next week.

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Rumors they are not able to agree on a date for the start of the second wave, hence the delay.

[sambum]

  On 6/26/2020 at 2:29 AM, Baggy said:

Nice pen, Montblanc, must have been on sale at Tesco.

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Borrowed it from a friend?

[sambum]

  On 6/26/2020 at 7:24 AM, Muzzique said:

Or more likely turn on the dirty Ferangs who obviously brought the plague here and created this hell for them. The writing is on the wall so beware.

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I thought it originated in China, hmmm?

[billd766]

  On 6/26/2020 at 6:58 AM, Percy P said:

Word is why not who.

I have no trouble with the lockdown, what's your problem. Beer.

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I have no problem with the lockdown either and no, I don't drink beer or anything alcoholic.

 

What annoys and irritates me about this government is that there have been NO local cases of Covid-19 for 31 days, passing the governments own target of 28 days for lifting the lockdown, yet they still want to extend it another month. Will they extend it for another month then another ad infinitum.

 

They have no interest in getting Thailand back up and running nor do they care about the millions of Thai people in general who "they" put out of work for 3 months already.

 

They have a brilliant plan to allow only rich tourists entry but they have no idea when or how many will turn up.

 

If the tourists have to spend the first 14 days in quarantine and will be restricted as to where they can go in Thailand, they most probably won't bother to come to Thailand when there are far nicer places for them to visit in the west. Monaco, Switzerland, Mauritius, the Bahamas etc will attract them, where people speak their language, the places are always clean and tidy, they have no problems with the food and wine and they won't be double priced or scammed.

 

 

[Reigntax]

  On 6/26/2020 at 12:23 AM, steven100 said:

yeah ..... but i didn't say go home, I suggested Brazil instead.    lol

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Now Steven, i think you should keep the Brazilian talk at a personal level with your mentor Prayuth.

You just never know, Prayuth might be dreaming about you also and your Brazilian option.

[billd766]

  On 6/26/2020 at 7:26 AM, sambum said:

I'll second that!

 

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And me.

[elliss]

  On 6/26/2020 at 9:07 AM, sungod said:

Right on comrades!!!!

 

Stop getting your knickers in a twist...... ????

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 Links .. 555

[elliss]

  On 6/26/2020 at 10:24 AM, Paiman said:

 

Rumors they are not able to agree on a date for the start of the second wave, hence the delay.

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      Waiting for  scientific evidence , from WHO ??.

[taxin]

  On 6/26/2020 at 3:00 AM, ubon farang said:

Its all about control. Control the population Well done Mr virus you served your purpose well. It gave the government the excuse to control the people.

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Yet so many people can’t see this. The mind boggles.

[sandyf]

  On 6/26/2020 at 12:25 PM, billd766 said:

I have no problem with the lockdown either and no, I don't drink beer or anything alcoholic.

 

What annoys and irritates me about this government is that there have been NO local cases of Covid-19 for 31 days, passing the governments own target of 28 days for lifting the lockdown, yet they still want to extend it another month. Will they extend it for another month then another ad infinitum.

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"Lockdown"  and the Emergency decree are not one and the same Bill. The ED has been amended several times so restrictions in the original version are not as they are now, so when people refer to lifting the "Lockdown" what do they actually mean.

People should remember that although the virus may be under control in Thailand that is not the case elsewhere. The ED is all about decision making and as long as a threat exists, either internally or externally, the government, as any government, should be in a position to deal with that as quickly and effectively as they see appropriate.

I would say that the Thai government have certainly done a better job of it than Bojo, another U turn on the so called "air bridges".

[kirbi53]

Well well, well, 

Hopefully the government will remember to extend the visa amnesty up until the end of August.

That would make a lot of sense because people cant go to borders etc etc in July. as July is an emergency decree.

I know TIT ????

I know have 2 plans for just in case

Just have to wait and see. 

Cheers, 

Kirby

 

[metisdead]

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[billd766]

  On 6/27/2020 at 1:45 AM, sandyf said:

"Lockdown"  and the Emergency decree are not one and the same Bill. The ED has been amended several times so restrictions in the original version are not as they are now, so when people refer to lifting the "Lockdown" what do they actually mean.

People should remember that although the virus may be under control in Thailand that is not the case elsewhere. The ED is all about decision making and as long as a threat exists, either internally or externally, the government, as any government, should be in a position to deal with that as quickly and effectively as they see appropriate.

I would say that the Thai government have certainly done a better job of it than Bojo, another U turn on the so called "air bridges".

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Sadly Sandy the ED has not been cancelled and can be implemented at ANY time the government wants, and for as long as the government wants for any reason that they can think of.

 

It is similar as S44 that Prayuth instigated when he stole the country from a caretaker government back in 2014. He gave the military, (and himself) amnesty for any past, present and future acts they may commit. With S44 he had complete authority and power over every Man, woman and child, whether Thai or foreign.

 

He misses that power and is taking advantage of the ED which gives him similar power. Power that he will NEVER willingly relinquish.

 

He is similar to a man riding on a tigers back, safe enough while he is on it, but he cannot afford to get off it.

 

This is only my opinion, but several of my Thai neighbours agree with me.

[sandyf]

  On 6/27/2020 at 5:22 AM, billd766 said:

Sadly Sandy the ED has not been cancelled and can be implemented at ANY time the government wants, and for as long as the government wants for any reason that they can think of.

 

It is similar as S44 that Prayuth instigated when he stole the country from a caretaker government back in 2014. He gave the military, (and himself) amnesty for any past, present and future acts they may commit. With S44 he had complete authority and power over every Man, woman and child, whether Thai or foreign.

 

He misses that power and is taking advantage of the ED which gives him similar power. Power that he will NEVER willingly relinquish.

 

He is similar to a man riding on a tigers back, safe enough while he is on it, but he cannot afford to get off it.

 

This is only my opinion, but several of my Thai neighbours agree with me.

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I never said the ED had been cancelled Bill, It was approved on 29th March and so far as I am aware has been amended 9 times, the last one being on the 18th June which included some relaxations.

http://www.mfa.go.th/main/contents/files/news3-20200618-095925-060442.pdf

 

So far each month it has been extended and personally I do not see a problem with that as it means all changes come from a central source, how that will transpire going forward only time will tell.

I am not particularly concerned about the past, I lived through it and moved on, it is the future that counts. Every country in the world has divided opinion on their government but that is a separate debate. At this point in time the critical measurement should be if the virus been brought under control or not.

Many that are critical of the Thai government would prefer to forget that it was military power that gave birth to the first US president or remember that Andrew Jackson, also a military commander, was a great advocate of slavery, stole land from the Indians and introduced the Indian Removal Act.

Everywhere has skeletons, just that some are older than others. 

[OneeyedJohn]

  On 6/26/2020 at 7:51 AM, Percy P said:

Well the UK,USA were very slow on taking preventative measures, now look at them.

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We are in Thailand, nothing to do with UK or USA

[billd766]

  On 6/27/2020 at 8:46 AM, sandyf said:

I never said the ED had been cancelled Bill, It was approved on 29th March and so far as I am aware has been amended 9 times, the last one being on the 18th June which included some relaxations.

http://www.mfa.go.th/main/contents/files/news3-20200618-095925-060442.pdf

 

So far each month it has been extended and personally I do not see a problem with that as it means all changes come from a central source, how that will transpire going forward only time will tell.

I am not particularly concerned about the past, I lived through it and moved on, it is the future that counts. Every country in the world has divided opinion on their government but that is a separate debate. At this point in time the critical measurement should be if the virus been brought under control or not.

Many that are critical of the Thai government would prefer to forget that it was military power that gave birth to the first US president or remember that Andrew Jackson, also a military commander, was a great advocate of slavery, stole land from the Indians and introduced the Indian Removal Act.

Everywhere has skeletons, just that some are older than others. 

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It seems to me that extending the ED boils down to Prayuth and I have to assume that he is taking in advice from the medical experts and possibly they are consulting with other experts world wide. It is down to Prayuth, playing as a one man band as to whether the ED gets extended or not. 

 

The ED to him is like S44. It gives him unlimited power and nobody can argue with him. He can extend the ED ad infinitum and there isn't much that anybody can do about it.

 

My skeleton is 76 years young and crumbling in a few places.