Malls warned to tighten disease controls after ratings drop

[snoop1130]

Malls warned to tighten disease controls after ratings drop

By The Nation

 

 

Malls and phone shops have been warned to tighten up disease control measures after their customer ratings on the ThaiChana platform dropped.

 

The warning came from the Digital Economy and Society Ministry today during its regular update on the QR code platform, which has also added more languages.

 

The digital platform has been used almost 31 million times (30,792,286) to check into shops and other businesses, while 230,768 shops have registered nationwide, the ministry’s inspector-general Polawat Witoolkollachit reported today.

 

Meanwhile, only 55.5 per cent who check-in via the website are remembering to check out, though that figure rises to 86.7 per cent for users of the ThaiChana app.

 

However, customer ratings for shopping malls and phone shops have begun to drop, said Polawat, who warned them to keep up with other operators. He also advised shop operators to take better care of books in which customers record their names and phone numbers, since there were reports that fraudsters were stealing the numbers to use in scams.

 

The ThaiChana platform is now available in Thai, English, Burmese and Malay, with more languages to be added in future, he said.

 

It also features a group check-in facility, for the convenience of families with children and elderly members.

 

Over the next week, ThaiChana will enable customers to make reservations via a QR code which can be shown on entry. Meanwhile, users will be able to check customer density at locations before they visit.

 

Polawat confirmed that the platform only records the name and phone number of users. Those who entered at-risk areas would be sent a direct and strictly private message advising them to get a test for Covid-19.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30390353

 

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[rkidlad]

Malls, etc, I’ve been to don’t even ask you to check in anymore. Most aren’t even doing the temperature check properly.

 

This is just a natural effect of people feeling safer and becoming more complacent. 
 

 

[RichardColeman]

With UK malls about to collapse financially due to non payment by retail shops due to covid close down and thereby fuel mass redundancies in mall shops, I'd like to know exactly how the owners of Thai malls stand financially with the bank with no tourists and emergency decrees  

[JCP108]

Lately as I've been checking in at places, lines of people just walk past me without checking in or scanning their phone app. 

 

I wonder if people are complacent after seeing 31 straight days of zero cases of Covid 19 in the country?

[Pilotman]

25 minutes ago, JCP108 said:

Lately as I've been checking in at places, lines of people just walk past me without checking in or scanning their phone app. 

 

I wonder if people are complacent after seeing 31 straight days of zero cases of Covid 19 in the country?

I don't think its complacency so much as they are aware that the procedure achieves nothing and is merely a PR exercise. It quickly lost all credibility with a lot of people, me included.  

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

'd like to know exactly how the owners of Thai malls stand financially with the bank with no tourists and emergency decrees 

I always felt Thai Malls were mainly money laundering fronts ...... so they won't be losing anything.

[JCP108]

26 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

I don't think its complacency so much as they are aware that the procedure achieves nothing and is merely a PR exercise. It quickly lost all credibility with a lot of people, me included.  

I think if they keep saying zero cases then they won't ever be able to say that the app is useful. People aren't going to keep using something that has no obvious purpose. To keep it perceived as necessary, seems like they will have to announce at least once case and say they used the app for it's stated purpose. How many weeks into the use of the app are we now with no reports of it being used for it's purpose?

[Bender Rodriguez]

15 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

With UK malls about to collapse financially due to non payment by retail shops due to covid close down and thereby fuel mass redundancies in mall shops, I'd like to know exactly how the owners of Thai malls stand financially with the bank with no tourists and emergency decrees  

I don't think the likes as CENTRAL (among richest people in Thailand) will go bankrupt soon

[Pedrogaz]

17 hours ago, JCP108 said:

Lately as I've been checking in at places, lines of people just walk past me without checking in or scanning their phone app. 

 

I wonder if people are complacent after seeing 31 straight days of zero cases of Covid 19 in the country?

I have never seen this....

[BigStar]

17 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

With UK malls about to collapse financially due to non payment by retail shops due to covid close down and thereby fuel mass redundancies in mall shops, I'd like to know exactly how the owners of Thai malls stand financially with the bank with no tourists and emergency decrees  

Well, ace TVF Mall Analysts have never seen any shoppers in any Thai malls. Every day, after hours, weekends, holidays, they continuously monitor the shopping bag count (a key tool of TVF Econometrics), using the infallible half-blind Eyeballs.

 

And no shopping bag has ever been seen by the Eyeballs.

 

The reason is that a shopper cannot exist in any Thai mall. TVF Economists know that hi-so Thais only shop abroad, other Thais have no money (there being no Thai middle class), Chinese and Indians don't spend. And the wealthy big-spending Golden Egg Layers, responsible for all the economic growth in Thailand, don't rent all the fleabag hotel rooms any more 'cause they've been persecuted, victimized, refused free beer, and totally driven out by xenophobia. Imagine: having to PROVE you really have all them golden eggs! It's a given!

 

And any other tourists, Japanese, Korean, would never buy in a Thai mall because they have malls at home. Similarly, they can buy condos at home, so there's never been any condo market. Same thing.

 

Since shoppers can't exist, they can't possibly be seen. Logic, logic.

 

 

For the historians only: Now in 2003 the INSANE rise in visa fees forced all the big-spending Golden Egg Layers to head for the exits and Thais back to the rice fields. Yet new malls were still being built! Siam Paragon, HUH? It was just mind-boggling.

 

Enter the brilliant classical TVF Economists, most of whom now seem to have died or, after numerous self-awarded accolades and worn '5' keys on their keyboards, gone on to Emeritus status in a UK nursing home. It was then they discovered and taught the economically illiterate the reason Thai malls just continue year after year looking profitable in contravention to the Known Laws.

 

Money laundering. Obvious today but only because of the astonishing intellectual breakthrough back in the day. Let's be clear: we stand on the shoulders of giants.

 

It quickly found its way into the large body of TVF Known Truths to be forever parroted by the peanut gallery.

 

So here it is:

 

16 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I always felt Thai Malls were mainly money laundering fronts ...... so they won't be losing anything.

 

Hence, no need to worry about the financial health of the malls.

 

In fact, business should be gettin' better now that a large ring of money launderers was busted recently. Malls will never be busted because they provide free air con for Thais. This explains of course all those non-shoppers some particularly sharp-eyed Posters are able to see in the malls, looking but not buying. 

Edited June 27, 2020 by BigStar

[Henryford]

17 hours ago, JCP108 said:

Lately as I've been checking in at places, lines of people just walk past me without checking in or scanning their phone app. 

 

I wonder if people are complacent after seeing 31 straight days of zero cases of Covid 19 in the country?

They know it's a futile gesture, just like writing Mickey Mouse on the contact sheet. But it keeps the dictators happy.

[ratcatcher]

18 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

With UK malls about to collapse financially due to non payment by retail shops due to covid close down and thereby fuel mass redundancies in mall shops, I'd like to know exactly how the owners of Thai malls stand financially with the bank with no tourists and emergency decrees  

???  ???

[robblok]

16 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I always felt Thai Malls were mainly money laundering fronts ...... so they won't be losing anything.

Your a bright guy.. could you explain how that works ?

 

Malls are divided in individual shops that pay rent. So that is based on contacts hard to launder money. Its cash businesses like bars / restaurants / discos that are used to launder money.

 

Also some shops in the malls are of the mall itself, the only way to launder money would be to do high cash purchases there but that would stand out too as you need a ration bought goods to sold goods. If the difference is too high its easily found out. 

[Sambotte]

17 hours ago, Pilotman said:

I don't think its complacency so much as they are aware that the procedure achieves nothing and is merely a PR exercise. It quickly lost all credibility with a lot of people, me included.  

Would be interesting to have the data on how many dangerous cases all this circus has detected...

Ho wait... None ?...

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

Your a bright guy.. could you explain how that works ?

 

Malls are divided in individual shops that pay rent. So that is based on contacts hard to launder money. Its cash businesses like bars / restaurants / discos that are used to launder money.

Sure, you also own the legit building firms that build the Mall ...... everything invoiced at double price.

Then every shop is rented at double rental price (even though the top 3 floors are empty.

Fake staff get paid to work in every fake shop, fake customers eat in the fake restaurants.

Fake opticians (staffed by your mia noi's) sell lots of imaginary glasses.

(Went in one of those when I first arrived in Thailand, the pretty couldn't work the diagnostic machine, but I taught her how to do it ....... must have been the only pair of glasses they ever sold)

[Scott Tracy]

Perhaps Bigstar is stir crazy...

 

A lot of older people around where I live can neither read nor write and do not have smart phones.

They do not shop in places where this app is being used. A lot of them don't know about the app. 

They shop locally or from motorbike vendors. Rice is from fields farmed by them and their families. Chicken is rare and only served when someone quick enough to catch one can be found. Fish is from the rice fields after the rainy season has finished.

 

Truth can be a double edged sword too. Thailand has been told it has had no domestic infections for 32 days now. Complacency and apathy are not words that should be used here. People are being told no infections for a month, therefore they are safe. No in has got it, so why all the hoohaa?

50% - 60% of Thais around where I live wear no masks. In the village now, no one wears masks. The monks wear no masks when asking for alms. It's as if nothing happened. 

 

enough of my ramblings...

[robblok]

8 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Sure, you also own the legit building firms that build the Mall ...... everything invoiced at double price.

Then every shop is rented at double rental price (even though the top 3 floors are empty.

Fake staff get paid to work in every fake shop, fake customers eat in the fake restaurants.

Fake opticians (staffed by your mia noi's) sell lots of imaginary glasses.

(Went in one of those when I first arrived in Thailand, the pretty couldn't work the diagnostic machine, but I taught her how to do it ....... must have been the only pair of glasses they ever sold)

BritMan, you are bright in general but in this case severely lacking. A quick comparison of the real rental contract and payments by shops with the fake one and its busted. Money laundering does not work like that. Just investigate a bit more and you will see its mainly done with cash businesses. Malls are not used to launder money. 

 

I just got back from the mall plenty of people buying.. all wearing masks. 

[spidermike007]

Over the next week, ThaiChana will enable customers to make reservations via a QR code which can be shown on entry. Meanwhile, users will be able to check customer density at locations before they visit.

 

Does this sound like a distinct lowering in the quality of life, and a draconian and dramatic heightening of big brother's presence, especially for a nation with few cases in the past 30 days?

[BritManToo]

Just now, spidermike007 said:

Over the next week, ThaiChana will enable customers to make reservations via a QR code which can be shown on entry. Meanwhile, users will be able to check customer density at locations before they visit.

 

Does this sound like a distinct lowering in the quality of life, and a draconian and dramatic heightening of big brother's presence, especially for a nation with few cases in the past 30 days?

Don't know, never used it, don't want to go anywhere where they do use it.

Can't even imagine why anyone would go to a Mall over here, the shops all sold the same junk when I last went.

Cheaper to buy online, and I don't have to get off the sofa.

Edited June 27, 2020 by BritManToo

[Yorkshire Tea]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Don't know, never used it, don't want to go anywhere where they do use it.

Can't even imagine why anyone would go to a Mall over here, the shops all sold the same junk when I last went.

Cheaper to buy online, and I don't have to get off the sofa.

Needed to top up on Casino brand jams last week at big c.  Just walked straight past the QR cr@p, just like most other customers

[toofarnorth]

14 minutes ago, Yorkshire Tea said:

Needed to top up on Casino brand jams last week at big c.  Just walked straight past the QR cr@p, just like most other customers

I change my name every day and not at all fussy what number I right down. But I don't won't locals looking at me as though I don't give a flying fig.   Today I signed in as a Hungarian  ....P Stoff.

[Yorkshire Tea]

13 minutes ago, toofarnorth said:

I change my name every day and not at all fussy what number I right down. But I don't won't locals looking at me as though I don't give a flying fig.   Today I signed in as a Hungarian  ....P Stoff.

I was doing that at the beginning, but gave up playing charades when most of locals were ignoring it all.

[nickstav]

My temperature was 31 on Thursday and 40 on Friday. I must be going through menopause.

[Don Mega]

1 minute ago, nickstav said:

My temperature was 31 on Thursday and 40 on Friday. I must be going through menopause.

hahahahahaha, yeah since all this temp taking thing started ive seen my temps as low as mid 20's and high's well into the 40's !!

 

Amusing that the high temp's don't actually get any reaction so why even bother continuing this charade ?

[bodga]

On 6/26/2020 at 5:53 PM, snoop1130 said:

since there were reports that fraudsters were stealing the numbers to use in scams.

I give them all the wrong info, thats  if  I actually  go somewhere that requires it, too  easy to get this  info, including the govt  app, no thanks.

[tonray]

On 6/26/2020 at 6:47 PM, RichardColeman said:

With UK malls about to collapse financially due to non payment by retail shops due to covid close down and thereby fuel mass redundancies in mall shops, I'd like to know exactly how the owners of Thai malls stand financially with the bank with no tourists and emergency decrees  

Since I was at several malls yesterday.....apparently they don't need tourists to make a profit. Restaurants with waits to get in, parking decks 80% full, Thais enjoying family days out and spending money.

[jaffas21]

What is the customer rating for? consumer satisfaction or the use of thai chana?

[DavisH]

On 6/27/2020 at 1:19 PM, Sambotte said:

Would be interesting to have the data on how many dangerous cases all this circus has detected...

Ho wait... None ?...

Its not used to detect the virus. If someone is infected with covid, their movements can be traced and those also in the same location at the same time are contacted and asked to be tested. I think it's very fortunate that there have been no reported cases since the system was put into place and so the system has not been needed to date. 

[DavisH]

9 hours ago, tonray said:

Since I was at several malls yesterday.....apparently they don't need tourists to make a profit. Restaurants with waits to get in, parking decks 80% full, Thais enjoying family days out and spending money.

The vast majority of malls dont depend on tourists, only those in tourist areas are impacted. I rarely see a westerner whenever I go to my local mall. 99% are locals. 

[poskat]

reviews are down because people are bored of doing them, combined with news of 0 cases for a month

 

this is similar to when they were doing temp checkpoints and when they did 50,000 checks w/o any fevers, the guy in charge thought it must be a problem with the screeners, i.e maybe they weren't really doing them, or not doing them right, not that it was good news that the results showed no symptomatic cases.

 

it is crazy how they put out "0 cases for X days" news, and also talk about the danger of new cases...

 

what is the number of days w/o cases that they will accept as evidence of thailand being clear of the virus, and the only danger, if you can call 57 deaths out of 65 million dangerous, is from it being imported..