UK ready to quit EU on 'Australia terms' if no Brexit deal, Johnson says

[vinny41]

1 hour ago, bannork said:

But percentage wise, we are far more dependent on the EU than vice-versa.

Both our exports to, and imports from the EU will be hit by tariffs in the event of a no deal.

This affects nearly 50% of our trade compared to 8% of the EU. 

In the event of no-deal and the UK moves to WTO-terms if the EU applies tariffs to the UK , they have to apply the same tariffs to the other WTO countries that the EU trade with

If the EU applies 10% tariffs on all UK vehicles coming into the EU, The Uk would apply 10% tariffs on all EU vehicles coming into the UK 

Vehicles built in Japan currently pay a tariff on vehicles export to the EU

[vinny41]

12 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Here we go again.

80% of the UK’s car production is exported, of which 54% goes to EU member states.

In 2017, the United Kingdom produced 1.75 million motor vehicles, exporting 800,000 of these within the European Union.
 

The other way around, less than 3 out of 10 cars made in the EU are exported (27.4%), with roughly one third of total exports heading to the UK (or 11.7% of total production).

 

Why hide behind % when everyone knows the Value of motor vehicles exported to the EU from the UK  is lower than the value of motor vehicles imported into the UK from the EU

[tomacht8]

15 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

In the event of no-deal and the UK moves to WTO-terms if the EU applies tariffs to the UK , they have to apply the same tariffs to the other WTO countries that the EU trade with

If the EU applies 10% tariffs on all UK vehicles coming into the EU, The Uk would apply 10% tariffs on all EU vehicles coming into the UK 

Vehicles built in Japan currently pay a tariff on vehicles export to the EU

OMG.

That is wrong.

WTO tariffs only apply if there is no separate trade agreement. The EU has over 50 agreements with non-EU countries.

[vinny41]

2 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

OMG.

That is wrong.

WTO tariffs only apply if there is no separate trade agreement. The EU has over 50 agreements with non-EU countries.

50 agreements out of 164 countries

What I can't figure out is why would 3.7 million eu nationals choose to live in the UK instead of the EU , as the TVF eu members seem to be indicating that life is so much better in the eu

[tomacht8]

8 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

50 agreements out of 164 countries

What I can't figure out is why would 3.7 million eu nationals choose to live in the UK instead of the EU , as the TVF eu members seem to be indicating that life is so much better in the eu

Vinny 1 Agreement can include more countrys not only one. 

 

June 2019 agreed on an ambitious and comprehensive free trade agreement. The trade framework is part of a broader association agreement between the European Union and the four Mercosur countries Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay. The deal includes a market with 780 million people.

[kingdong]

39 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

Vinny 1 Agreement can include more countrys not only one. 

 

June 2019 agreed on an ambitious and comprehensive free trade agreement. The trade framework is part of a broader association agreement between the European Union and the four Mercosur countries Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay. The deal includes a market with 780 million people.

notice the question regarding the 3.7million eu citizens in the uk was ignored.

[mikebike]

1 hour ago, vinny41 said:

Why hide behind % when everyone knows the Value of motor vehicles exported to the EU from the UK  is lower than the value of motor vehicles imported into the UK from the EU

Because the percentages indicate the EU auto industry would not collapse without the UK... conversely... not so much.

[Nigel Garvie]

4 hours ago, vinny41 said:

If there is another vote for Scottish independence and the vote for independence is won by 1 vote we look forward to the SNP refusing to accept the results and calling for another vote

If there is another vote for Scottish independence and the vote for independence is won by 1 vote we look forward to the SNP accepting the results, and the majority of Scots being deliriously happy - a vast intake of intoxicating liquor may possibly follow.

( I think you got your knickers in a twist)????????

[candide]

2 hours ago, kingdong said:

notice the question regarding the 3.7million eu citizens in the uk was ignored.

I know you don't like percentages, but it's only 0.8% of EU-27 population.

 

There are only 1.24 million British people living in the EU, but it's  1.8% of UK population. ????

[luckyluke]

@ Nauseus

 

"Pseudobulbar affect (PBA) is a condition that's characterized by episodes of sudden uncontrollable and inappropriate laughing or crying" 

[bannork]

4 hours ago, kingdong said:

notice the question regarding the 3.7million eu citizens in the uk was ignored.

It was an obvious attempt at deflection as his trade remarks had been shown to be false but yes, 3.7 million out of an EU population of 450 million. The UK, on the other hand, has 1.5 million of its 70 million citizens living in the EU, a much higher percentage.

[vinny41]

2 hours ago, bannork said:

It was an obvious attempt at deflection as his trade remarks had been shown to be false but yes, 3.7 million out of an EU population of 450 million. The UK, on the other hand, has 1.5 million of its 70 million citizens living in the EU, a much higher percentage.

Still No answer 

What I can't figure out is why would 3.7 million eu nationals choose to live in the UK instead of the EU , as the TVF eu members seem to be indicating that life is so much better in the eu

[transam]

12 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

So you think people in Engurland want Scottish independence or not?

Anyway here is a link to the poll which shows 49% of Conservative voters in Engurlund want Engurland independence.

 

https://www.yes.cymru/english_independence_poll

It is spelt, "England", just so readers know what you are talking about...???? 

[transam]

12 hours ago, Pattaya46 said:

And the funny thing is that these 1.3m seniors may be dead now,

and they will never have to suffer from their Brexit choice... 

I don't think that's funny....????

[transam]

10 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

You may like to read some of the 1500 examples of what the EU does for the man on the street. You can search for regions or topics. The texts can be displayed in all languages.

https://what-europe-does-for-me.eu/en/portal

 

 

Like they help stricken EU member countries when C19 showed up....????

[transam]

9 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

You have lost your biggest market.

How are you going to fill that shortfall of trade?

You've been at your.......

 

 

......again, you rascal.....????

[vogie]

9 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

 

it wasn't BJ that turned the national assembly into something usefull, the voters did that

 

anyhow,

have some reliable analysts compiled some "<deleted>-MP" exchange quantification?

within the various parties

how many bogus (those not voting as expected) MPs were replaced?

Absolutely it was the voters, but without Johnson would they have enthusiastically have voted for anyone else leading the Tory Party, the Boris haters can scoff and ridicule at him as much as they like but he has proven he was/is the man for the job. It is totally unprecidented that northern Labour voters would vote Tory and that is the measure of the man.

Not sure how many "bogus" MPs were replaced, but Boris turned split parliament of ditherers to a parliament that knows which direction it is heading. 

 

[bannork]

58 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Still No answer 

What I can't figure out is why would 3.7 million eu nationals choose to live in the UK instead of the EU , as the TVF eu members seem to be indicating that life is so much better in the eu

Life is so much better for the UK in the EU. No one is suggesting the standard of living is better in Romania, etc. 

Regarding residing, as I pointed out a larger percentage of the UK residents reside (will those rights soon be revoked?) In the EU, than vice versa. 

[kingdong]

4 hours ago, candide said:

I know you don't like percentages, but it's only 0.8% of EU-27 population.

 

There are only 1.24 million British people living in the EU, but it's  1.8% of UK population. ????

so you,re comparing the total of one country compared to 27 ? i see simple arithmetic isn,t one of your strong points.

[bannork]

9 minutes ago, vogie said:

Absolutely it was the voters, but without Johnson would they have enthusiastically have voted for anyone else leading the Tory Party, the Boris haters can scoff and ridicule at him as much as they like but he has proven he was/is the man for the job. It is totally unprecidented that northern Labour voters would vote Tory and that is the measure of the man.

Not sure how many "bogus" MPs were replaced, but Boris turned split parliament of ditherers to a parliament that knows which direction it is heading. 

 

Let's face it, a dog could have won against Corbyn, an utterly ineffectual leader.

The game has changed down with Keir taking over.

[kingdong]

2 minutes ago, bannork said:

Life is so much better for the UK in the EU. 

yeah,yeah,yeah,thats why we voted to leave.

[kingdong]

1 minute ago, bannork said:

 

The game has changed down with Keir taking over.

another blair clone.

[vinny41]

11 minutes ago, bannork said:

Life is so much better for the UK in the EU. No one is suggesting the standard of living is better in Romania, etc. 

Regarding residing, as I pointed out a larger percentage of the UK residents reside (will those rights soon be revoked?) In the EU, than vice versa. 

I can understand why UK nationals are living in different parts of the EU, weather being the main reason winters in Scotland verus winters in Spain no contest really but 3.7 million EU nationals can't be choosing UK over the EU because of the UK weather

 

[vogie]

7 minutes ago, bannork said:

Let's face it, a dog could have won against Corbyn, an utterly ineffectual leader.

The game has changed down with Keir taking over.

Keir Starmer has already split the Labour Party, Labour will never win another election untill they get rid of all their infighting, too many parts of Labour are pulling in different directions, they always will, there are too many factions all trying to achieve different goals. 

[bannork]

31 minutes ago, kingdong said:

another blair clone.

Excellent, Tony Blair won 3 elections.

[bannork]

22 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

I can understand why UK nationals are living in different parts of the EU, weather being the main reason winters in Scotland verus winters in Spain no contest really but 3.7 million EU nationals can't be choosing UK over the EU because of the UK weather

 

It's the fish and chips.

[vogie]

Just now, bannork said:

Excellent, Tony Blair won 3 elections.

Tony Blair was more right wing than the Tories, the only thing left about Labour at the time was John Prescotts left hook on the 'egg man'

[luckyluke]

1 hour ago, vinny41 said:

as the TVF eu members seem to be indicating that life is so much better in the eu

Must be something like the many proclaiming that  so much things are better in their homeland, or other countries, but still staying  in Thailand. 

[kingdong]

5 minutes ago, vogie said:

Tony Blair was more right wing than the Tories, the only thing left about Labour at the time was John Prescotts left hook on the 'egg man'

two slags prescott,what a geezer.

[kingdong]

9 minutes ago, bannork said:

Excellent, Tony Blair won 3 elections.

and was responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of arab civilians with his " weapons of mass destruction " pack of lies.