Man arrested over toppling of statue English slave trader

[bodga]

16 hours ago, simon43 said:

Throw the guy into the river...... a fitting punishment.

Strapped  to the statue  he hates???? remember if  it  sinks  he's a  witch, a  witch I tell ya!

[bodga]

15 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

Well, they appear to have done that already, hence this topic. But going back to the point to which I initially responded, which was to 'bang em all up' - are we in agreement that that is a touch totalitarian? 

Youre  right, I was too soft, must be aging, ok harpoon them as  well. There that's  better

[toofarnorth]

17 hours ago, evadgib said:

In a ducking stool, followed by a stint in the stocks ????

'A sinner did a stint in the stocks '.  Next line please.

[toofarnorth]

16 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Believe it or not, there is an entire world out there that has nothing to do with Trump. This story is an example.

Agree, I wondered how long on a statue toppling in Bristol it would be before Trump appeared.

[toofarnorth]

Nelson press ganged young men to sail with him , is his statue still atop Nelson's column in Trafalgar square ? If yes should it be toppled ?

[vogie]

11 minutes ago, toofarnorth said:

Nelson press ganged young men to sail with him , is his statue still atop Nelson's column in Trafalgar square ? If yes should it be toppled ?

Unless you have the skills of Fred Dibna, I'd forget Nelson.????????

[bluesofa]

Just now, vogie said:

Unless you have the skills of Fred Dibna, I'd forget Nelson.????????

It's probably past Fred Dibna's scope right now.

He's too busy pushing up daisies. Sadly he died in 2004.

[CorpusChristie]

1 hour ago, RuamRudy said:

Did that actually make sense in your head as you typed it? If so, no wonder you are frustrated. Thankfully, the real world in which we all live is much less dystopian than you describe. You see, you missed out a critical step in the process - people get arrested based upon evidence. Oh - and judges don't decide the guilt or otherwise of a defendant. We have trials by jury in the UK. 

The photo in question is evidence that they were at a crime scene and thus quite probably involved in  numerous crimes that had been committed that day , how about *obstructing the Police* ?

  Could be a case to answer that if they were not there , then the Police would have arrested the people committing crimes 

   Judge/Jury, whatever, not that important , as what I meant was them being found guilty of crimes in Court

[RuamRudy]

2 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

The photo in question is evidence that they were at a crime scene and thus quite probably involved in  numerous crimes that had been committed that day , how about *obstructing the Police* ?

  Could be a case to answer that if they were not there , then the Police would have arrested the people committing crimes 

I would suggest that 'quite probably' fails to meet the burden of proof required to bring about criminal charges and a trial. As for 'obstructing the police' you would have to show that either they had prior knowledge of the intention to topple the statue and that their presence was a deliberate attempt to thwart the police, or that they interfered directly with the police's attempts to apprehend the vandals. And as I mentioned previously, TV journalists were there in the middle too - should they also be charged?

 

5 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

   Judge/Jury, whatever, not that important , as what I meant was them being found guilty of crimes in Court

As you were lamenting about having to 'explain the basics' to me, I thought that maybe you would be keen for some reciprocal knowledge sharing. 

[CorpusChristie]

2 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 And as I mentioned previously, TV journalists were there in the middle too - should they also be charged?

See my previous reply to that question .

[CorpusChristie]

29 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

I would suggest that 'quite probably' fails to meet the burden of proof required to bring about criminal charges and a trial. As for 'obstructing the police' you would have to show that either they had prior knowledge of the intention to topple the statue and that their presence was a deliberate attempt to thwart the police, or that they interfered directly with the police's attempts to apprehend the vandal

I do think that you take this forum a bit too seriously , we are not the actual Crown prosecution service deciding whether to prosecute or not  , dont be too concerned about it .

[Krataiboy]

19 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

On what charges? 

Criminal gullibility.

 

Gullibility is a failure of social intelligence in which a person is easily tricked or manipulated into an ill-advised course of action. It is closely related to credulity, which is the tendency to believe unlikely propositions that are unsupported by evidence. - Wikipedia

[Scott Tracy]

Is no one here a little confused over the headline?

 

'Man arrested over toppling of statue English slave trader'

 

Perhaps better English would have been: Man arrested over toppling of statue of English slave trader, Man arrested over statue of English slave trader toppling. Man arrested over toppling of English slave trader statue.

[Tropposurfer]

Good job ! Now put a truthful bronze plaque in its place telling the true story of what this man participated in. Same for the rest of the white fantasy narrative history that we have all been fed.

[TommyUK1960]

The establishment need to get hard with these Black lives matters organisation. Its an extreme radical leftist Marxist organisation that uses mob rule mentality.

[phantomfiddler]

21 hours ago, PJPom said:

Also it will not remove racism.

Could that possibly be because racism is very often a product of experience ?

[puipuitom]

21 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

On what charges? 

demolishing public property

[Kadilo]

20 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

You seem  to be suggesting that a Black man should be hung .

Extremely inappropriate thing to be suggesting 

 

I can assure you I am not but reading your posts I can see why you would think that  

[PJPom]

20 minutes ago, phantomfiddler said:

Could that possibly be because racism is very often a product of experience ?

The above question is valid, forty years ago I would have considered myself to be totally colour blind but my experiences rather disillusioned me. 

[Fancyzancy]

Here ya go Brits who always laugh at USA.

It's going to get real nasty. Let's say Karma. 

[simple1]

9 minutes ago, Fancyzancy said:

Here ya go Brits who always laugh at USA.

It's going to get real nasty. Let's say Karma. 

Thankfully we don't have a trump equivalent as PM, though he can be a bit odd from time to time. May take a while for calm down, but it will

[AgMech Cowboy]

23 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

is not going to remove the deeply buried hate of racists.

Or the deeply open hate of the so called non-racists and the self righteous antifa thugs and blm supporters. The lives of black people do matter as well as yours, mine, the Russians, Chinese, Indians, Thais, Ethiopian, Angolan, etc. 

[metisdead]

Some off topic posts, offensive posts and posts with trolling comments have been removed as well as the replies. 

[3NUMBAS]

On 7/2/2020 at 12:17 PM, RuamRudy said:

On what charges? 

criminal damage for instance

[bodga]

14 hours ago, Tropposurfer said:

Good job ! Now put a truthful bronze plaque in its place telling the true story of what this man participated in. Same for the rest of the white fantasy narrative history that we have all been fed.

Please dont stop there lets  bring all religious  statues into this as its  just another fantasy that  killed  many more than any slave traders both black whit e yellow pink green etc

[jak2002003]

2 hours ago, bodga said:

Please dont stop there lets  bring all religious  statues into this as its  just another fantasy that  killed  many more than any slave traders both black whit e yellow pink green etc

I agree with that. 

 

Pull down all the statues of the virgin Mary and Jesus. The Catholic church committed horrendous acts in the past, with torture and murdering non believers. 

 

 

[bluesofa]

25 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

I agree with that. 

 

Pull down all the statues of the virgin Mary and Jesus. The Catholic church committed horrendous acts in the past, with torture and murdering non believers.

Better to get in early:

 

[sungod]

37 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

The Catholic church committed horrendous acts in the past,

Still are, child abuse and covering it up.

[Brigand]

Better close the Guardian newspaper too as that was founded off the profits of the cotton trade.

[PJPom]

21 minutes ago, Brigand said:

Better close the Guardian newspaper too as that was founded off the profits of the cotton trade.

The Manchester Guardian was founded by the blunt talking, very rich Northern Mill Owners and Industrialists as an answer to the “ foppish” Southerners newspapers , It reported on the state of the nation and the world in an exemplary manner for years. Now it is based in the South and has become the woke persons bible, in other words it has become the very thing it’s founders would have abhorred.