U.S. swoops down on Portland protesters after Trump order to protect monuments

[Tippaporn]

4 hours ago, Credo said:

  

11 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

BLM is about what exactly?  Police violence against blacks?  Is it really?

 

Mail Online - Cuban restaurant owner in Louisville reveals how BLM sent him blackmail letter with diversity demands that he was told to meet or risk social media shaming, a public boycott and his storefront 'f***** with'

 

The full letter is reprinted in the article.  Among the demands, this one falls under Education:

 

Knowledge is crucial to efforts to correct the systems of racial oppression upheld by white-owned businesses.  I, therefore, commit to the following educational activities to guarantee that Black representation is achieved and maintained in the NuLu Business District:

 

• Attendance, by myself and ALL my staff, at an initial diversity, equity, and inclusion training that will be:
• Conducted in person.
• Inclusive and intersectional, addressing numerous characteristics, including, but not limited to race, class, gender, sexual orientation, and gender identity

 

Gender, sex orientation and gender identity??  The rest is just as mind blowing.  These people will take us back into the Dark Ages.

 

I'll ask again, is BLM really about police violence against blacks?

 

The Dems and libs not only go along with this stuff, they support it.  Un-frickin'-believable.

 

 

No, BLM is not JUST about police violence.  It's also about other issues, including systemic racism.   

"It's also about other issues . . . "  And the list goes on and on and on.  Gender, sex orientation and gender identity?  That has nothing to do with racism.  If people want to deny their biological heritage then go right ahead.  I don't have anything against it.  But to force it's acceptance onto me under threat?  Never.  All I see is that the Dems and libs are setting themselves up for major unintended consequences.

 

Edited August 4, 2020 by Tippaporn

[asiacurious]

 

First, how cruel and harsh do you have to be to handcuff children face down on the ground?

 

Second, how lazy or dumb do you have to be to confuse an out of state license plate issued for a motorcycle, with an in-state license plate issued for a car?

 

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But before they could even find an open salon, the family’s four children were ordered at gunpoint to lie facedown on the parking lot, and two were handcuffed. The Black girls, who range from 6 to 17 years old, broke down into tears and screams as a group of White police officers hovered over them.

 

[SNIP]

 

Aurora’s police chief apologized on Monday night and launched an internal investigation after video of the incident quickly went viral. Police blamed a misunderstanding: The license plate number on a stolen motorcycle matched the family’s blue SUV, and that car had been reported missing earlier this year, too.

 

Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/04/aurora-pd-handcuffs-family-gunpoint/

Edited August 4, 2020 by asiacurious

[torturedsole]

23 minutes ago, asiacurious said:

First, how cruel and harsh do you have to be to handcuff children face down on the ground?

There is that but should also consider attitude towards law enforcement.  These officers have a job to do and if you don't follow the rules then their role in their public duties is to enforce them.

 

I suspect the mother would be similarly officious if she had to enforce the rules in her own career, whatever that may be.  

[Scott]

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[asiacurious]

9 hours ago, torturedsole said:

There is that but should also consider attitude towards law enforcement.  These officers have a job to do and if you don't follow the rules then their role in their public duties is to enforce them.

 

I suspect the mother would be similarly officious if she had to enforce the rules in her own career, whatever that may be.  

There are plenty of rules that are selectively enforced against some but not others.

[Scott]

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[OZinPattaya]

On 7/17/2020 at 7:26 PM, simple1 said:

Federal government agents have been detaining people in clear breach of their First Amendment rights.

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/portland-george-floyd-protests-president-trump-federal-officers-1030441/

Ah, yes, this is when the leftists start caring about the constitution.

[OZinPattaya]

Here's what Trump should do with Portland--absolutely nothing. Let these Democrat-run cities do what is inevitable: Implode miserably. Let the white and middle-class flight happen, leaving the inner cities with an ever-decreasing tax base, and then, when these cities beg for alms, extend a middle finger. Let them lie in the hole they have dug for themselves.

[Scott]

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[simple1]

3 hours ago, OZinPattaya said:

Ah, yes, this is when the leftists start caring about the constitution.

trump getting the facts straight. trump has power and is constantly attacking the Constitutional rights of US citizens e.g. voter disentrancement and freedom of speech (people disagreeing with trump are called out as scum and traitors).

[Mama Noodle]

Well antifa and BLM are still banging away in Portland so I guess that whole “in response to federal police” argument is blown out of the water. 

[Logosone]

An 18-year-old man in Portland has been charged with assaulting a federal officer with a dangerous weapon and willfully damaging government property after his explosive device allegedly blasted both of a deputy U.S. Marshal’s legs, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Oregon.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-man-18-charged-assaulting-us-marshal-protest

[EVENKEEL]

6 minutes ago, Logosone said:

An 18-year-old man in Portland has been charged with assaulting a federal officer with a dangerous weapon and willfully damaging government property after his explosive device allegedly blasted both of a deputy U.S. Marshal’s legs, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Oregon.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-man-18-charged-assaulting-us-marshal-protest

Fox news will be the only place you see this, CNN won't be talking about it.

[Logosone]

40 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Fox news will be the only place you see this, CNN won't be talking about it.

I checked, you are correct, looks like neither NYT nor CNN are reporting on Maza.

 

To their credit the Washington Post does report on Maza, however, as a footnote in a general 'violence not so bad" article.

 

More than 70 people have been charged with federal crimes and citations related to the nightly clashes between U.S. agents and Portland protesters.

 

Ken Cuccinelli, acting deputy secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday that there had been 277 injuries to about 140 federal law enforcement officers in Portland. 

 

Portland accounts for about 30 percent of the more than 270 federal charges brought nationally since May that the Justice Department ties to the civil unrest.

 

Among those charged in the alleged targeting of federal officers is 18-year-old Isaiah Jason Maza Jr., accused of setting off an explosive at the courthouse that injured a deputy U.S. marshal on July 22. He made his first court appearance Monday on felony charges of assaulting a federal officer using a dangerous weapon and depredation of federal government property.

 

Another 18-year-old, Gabriel Agard-Berryhill, made his first court appearance last week on a felony arson charge for allegedly starting a fire at the courthouse with fireworks.

 

Both Agard-Berryhill and Maza have argued in court that they were given the explosives by other protesters and did not realize they would be so damaging. If found guilty, they each could face up to 20 years in prison.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal-officers-may-be-leaving-portland-but-federal-charges-will-linger-for-many/2020/08/05/20d5e9ca-d683-11ea-b9b2-1ea733b97910_story.html

 

So there are people at the protests handing out explosives to 18 year old vandals and thugs, most likely Antifa handing out explosives. As a result of this an 18 year old will now go to jail for up to 20 years (probably 6 to 10) because Antifa used him in a protest and handed him explosives.  Maza will be convicted because there is video footage of his crime.

 

 

 

[simple1]

2 hours ago, Logosone said:

An 18-year-old man in Portland has been charged with assaulting a federal officer with a dangerous weapon and willfully damaging government property after his explosive device allegedly blasted both of a deputy U.S. Marshal’s legs, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Oregon.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-man-18-charged-assaulting-us-marshal-protest

 

 

 

 

 

Would be interesting to know his political affiliation, if any, should find out once convicted, if not sooner.

Edited August 6, 2020 by simple1

[Logosone]

21 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Would be interesting to know his political affiliation, if any, should find out once charged / convicted.

Well he's 18, so probably Portland Trail Blazers.

[simple1]

8 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

Well antifa and BLM are still banging away in Portland so I guess that whole “in response to federal police” argument is blown out of the water. 

Here you go, recent daily reports from DHS, a good reference point check for future comments...

 

https://www.dhs.gov/news-releases/press-releases

[EVENKEEL]

18 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Here you go, recent daily reports from DHS, a good reference point check for future comments...

 

https://www.dhs.gov/news-releases/press-releases

CNN never reported this hmmmm........

https://www.foxnews.com/us/federal-law-enforcement-officer-killed-in-oakland-protest-identified

[simple1]

11 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

CNN never reported this hmmmm........

https://www.foxnews.com/us/federal-law-enforcement-officer-killed-in-oakland-protest-identified

 

 

 

Incorrect. As an example the officer is named in the article below. You do realise the alleged killer is a right-wing extremist?

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/16/us/steven-carrillo-california-officers-deaths-suspect-boogaloos/index.html

Edited August 6, 2020 by simple1

[EVENKEEL]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

Incorrect. As an example the officer is named in the article below. You do realise the alleged killer is a right-wing extremist?

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/16/us/steven-carrillo-california-officers-deaths-suspect-boogaloos/index.html

My bad, old news. I remember the pic of idiot boogaboo from before,

[olfu]

Long opening article should be short as--USA's civil war in progress.

[OZinPattaya]

On 8/5/2020 at 5:39 PM, simple1 said:

trump getting the facts straight. trump has power and is constantly attacking the Constitutional rights of US citizens e.g. voter disentrancement and freedom of speech (people disagreeing with trump are called out as scum and traitors).

I love these broad and hyperbolic generalizations about how Trump is this or that and yet the poster never feels compelled to offer a single concrete example in terms of policy supporting the claim. It's all just empty rhetoric.

[simple1]

2 hours ago, OZinPattaya said:

I love these broad and hyperbolic generalizations about how Trump is this or that and yet the poster never feels compelled to offer a single concrete example in terms of policy supporting the claim. It's all just empty rhetoric.

There are so many articles / news reports, nearly every day. covering trump's ongoing destruction of US institutions & society by way of policy, twitter statements, whatever, I'm sure you're capable of fact checking yourself. If for some reason you cannot, you're welcome to query via a post, not PM, on a specific item so long as don't then rant about lefties etc.

[checkered flag]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

There are so many articles / news reports, nearly every day. covering trump's ongoing destruction of US institutions & society by way of policy, twitter statements, whatever, I'm sure you're capable of fact checking yourself. If for some reason you cannot, you're welcome to query via a post, not PM, on a specific item so long as don't then rant about lefties etc.

I'm not in Portland or Seattle (or Chicago) but they are a total mess. The local government is doing nothing to protect the citizen and lets the mob run wild. Lives have been and are being lost. Trump's response and responsibility is to protect federal property and that's what he did. The federal courthouse in Portland was being attached nightly and the local police were told to stand down. The lefty politicians are afraid of offending their darling law breaking thugs, because they think they mean well. Well the only aim of the mob has been to burn and destroy public property. 

The lefty politicians are fools, because the mob represents only a small percent of the population and no way speaks for the whole. Would you vote for someone who refuses to provide a safe and free environment for everyone. Oh, you are not American anyway so you can't legally vote in the US.

[LomSak27]

Just now, checkered flag said:

I'm not in Portland or Seattle (or Chicago) but they are a total mess

So you got that from ......... lets wait for it ................. FOX NEWS.   ????. Say no more.

 

 

 

[Scott]

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