Britain nears abandoning Brexit trade deal hope - The Telegraph

[GinBoy2]

26 minutes ago, david555 said:

The problem is this has nothing to do with E.U. this is United Nations treaty ....world treaty ...refugees and asylam 

Sorry you can not blame E.U as usual 

..are you Brits not the rulers of the sea ....????

How long it took for U.K. before they could even deported that fanatic preaching cleric ...years thanks the lawyers for that obstruction as even noe tha lady Begum .......good luck we E.U. tried a lot ...now they change course to Britain .... predict very soon the BIG ships shall change course from Mediterainian Sea to straight .U.K. waters .....not unlikely to happen 

Maybe I'm missing something, but doesn't the UN state that refugees should seek asylum in the first safe country they arrive in?

 

Seems a stretch to say they trek across Europe to find the country they 'want' to be in, and thats not a problem.

 

But I'm an American we have out own immigration problems, but seems to me, if illegal immigrants or refugees land on EU territory it's for EU countries to sort out, not the UK

[Andrew65]

2 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said:

Maybe I'm missing something, but doesn't the UN state that refugees should seek asylum in the first safe country they arrive in?

 

Seems a stretch to say they trek across Europe to find the country they 'want' to be in, and thats not a problem.

 

But I'm an American we have out own immigration problems, but seems to me, if illegal immigrants or refugees land on EU territory it's for EU countries to sort out, not the UK

Most of the EU is in the Schengen Area (zone), the UK & Ireland are not. A Schengen visa gains access to that zone, but not to the UK & Ireland (for example).

[david555]

3 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

Most want to go to Germany, especially after Mad-Angie invited them???? All of them.....from everywhere. She didn't consult her "EU partners" before doing so (in the run-up to the Brexit vote).

that are the Afghans and surrounding country  ones …. you get the other ones from the other side who many have already family in U.K. and "fund" them GBP's to come and pay their lawyers to assist their claims , same as in Europe …. it is the system who is violated....it is a "chain gang " …. come Britain goo … good benefits …. come brother... come sister... be sure to come …! money free !

[luckyluke]

15 minutes ago, watso63 said:

The EU have just proved what a mess they're in with all the squabbling over the past few days.

They come to an agreement after 4 days. 

Brexit talks are still going on since.... 

Squabbling and mess here? 

 

[Andrew65]

4 minutes ago, david555 said:

that are the Afghans and surrounding country  ones …. you get the other ones from the other side who many have already family in U.K. and "fund" them GBP's to come and pay their lawyers to assist their claims , same as in Europe …. it is the system who is violated....it is a "chain gang " …. come Britain goo … good benefits …. come brother... come sister... be sure to come …! money free !

There are very many Somali people in the UK....on Dutch passports.

Once Frau Merkel gives the millions that she invited to Germany German/EU passports, they can do the same.

Edited July 22, 2020 by Andrew65

[david555]

19 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said:

Maybe I'm missing something, but doesn't the UN state that refugees should seek asylum in the first safe country they arrive in?

 

Seems a stretch to say they trek across Europe to find the country they 'want' to be in, and thats not a problem.

 

But I'm an American we have out own immigration problems, but seems to me, if illegal immigrants or refugees land on EU territory it's for EU countries to sort out, not the UK

Yes  you are right …. but how many country's they crossed already from example West Africa or Eas t Africa BEFORE they reach Europe or even England …. so those neighboring country's responsibility and the refugee ….who have ….. "dear choices for economic improvement" not to suppose save his life..... economic refugees  throwing away passports to avoid send back …. send back to where..???

Edited July 22, 2020 by david555

[soi3eddie]

48 minutes ago, ukrules said:

 

They're crossing a frontier when leaving France illegally and they're all going to be sent back and it's going to start happening pretty soon.

 

I also read somewhere that there's a very good chance this can be back dated to the date the UK left the EU, think about that.

 

The French have been sending as many as they can over to the UK and we're about to send the lot of them back....to France.

 

Wishful thinking but it will never happen. Unfortunately.

[david555]

1 minute ago, Andrew65 said:

There are very many Somali people in the UK....on Dutch passports.

Once Frau Merkel gives the millions that she invited to Germany German/EU passports, they can do the same.

That is once they have a nationality status , like Farage has German (oh horror a genuine Brit with a " jerry" passport ...lol )

Don't worry Hong Kong is coming Raab promised them U.K. asylam and follow up passport …..POLITICS !

[david555]

34 minutes ago, david555 said:

Did the U.K. not signed U.N treaty's ???? That is where asylam laws came from in first order .....

Oh i forgot British signatures are very changeble....????

 

[Andrew65]

1 minute ago, david555 said:

That is once they have a nationality status , like Farage has German (oh horror a genuine Brit with a " jerry" passport ...lol )

Don't worry Hong Kong is coming Raab promised them U.K. asylam and follow up passport …..POLITICS !

Yes, his wife is German.

Hong Kong & Chinese people tend to like Canada as a destination, Australia too, Britain won't get that many of the "3 million", I predict. (Canada has birthright citizenship, like the US, for one thing, Britain doesn't).

[david555]

20 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said:

Maybe I'm missing something, but doesn't the UN state that refugees should seek asylum in the first safe country they arrive in?

 

Seems a stretch to say they trek across Europe to find the country they 'want' to be in, and thats not a problem.

 

But I'm an American we have out own immigration problems, but seems to me, if illegal immigrants or refugees land on EU territory it's for EU countries to sort out, not the UK

Like Trump  claimed Mexico would pay his wall ….. yeah just throw you rubbish over the neighbor fence....

[Henryford]

They are just playing games. There will agree a deal at 11.59pm on the 31st December.

[david555]

1 minute ago, Andrew65 said:

Yes, his wife is German.

Hong Kong & Chinese people tend to like Canada as a destination, Australia too, Britain won't get that many of the "3 million", I predict. (Canada has birthright citizenship, like the US, for one thing, Britain doesn't).

And of course they put a gun to his head to force him German passport ….. an option not to refuse ???? ….lol

[Andrew65]

1 minute ago, david555 said:

Like Trump  claimed Mexico would pay his wall ….. yeah just throw you rubbish over the neighbor fence....

Eastern European counties have been building walls & fences (1200 km) for exactly the same reason that Trump does, no one mentions that though.

[david555]

4 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

Yes, his wife is German.

Hong Kong & Chinese people tend to like Canada as a destination, Australia too, Britain won't get that many of the "3 million", I predict. (Canada has birthright citizenship, like the US, for one thing, Britain doesn't).

Are al this Hong Kong people born in Canada ….? Raab invited them …. (such another " jolly good Boris fellow "…)

[Andrew65]

4 minutes ago, david555 said:

And of course they put a gun to his head to force him German passport ….. an option not to refuse ???? ….lol

Nigel sees it as a way of forging ever closer ties with the glorious Germany Republik, after all, our glorious Queen is German!????

Edited July 22, 2020 by Andrew65

[mrfill]

40 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

The population of Africa is predicted by the UN to triple by 2050, from 800 million now, to 2.4 billion. I don't think economic growth will come even close to compensating. The Med is gonna continue to be very busy with small boats.

I'm afraid the current population of Africa is 1.26 billion, not 800m. Accurate figures are so much better to reinforce prejudices.

[david555]

2 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

Eastern European counties have been building walls & fences (1200 km) for exactly the same reason that Trump does, no one mentions that though.

Fences, no wall's (DDR stone wall is no more )….. and …. it is not stopping them ….. so Brexit country i wish you luck start building them or put mine fields around your big waters as they shall come from all sides in future …. 

[welovesundaysatspace]

 

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The Scot's had their once in a lifetime referendum a few years back and voted to remain in the Union, but again Wee Burnie keeps harping on from the cheap seats whilst having  her cake and eating it.

Members of the EU: Sovereign, independent nations who can freely decide about their membership anytime. 
 

Members of the UK: Vassals of England who have to ask the unelected rulers to leave. “You had a referendum, now be quiet!”

 

 

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The EU have just proved what a mess they're in with all the squabbling over the past few days.

Members of the EU: Sit down four days in a row to democratically decide together with every member having a veto. 
 

Members of the UK: Vassals of England, who see English people deciding their fate. 
 

???????????? 

Edited July 22, 2020 by welovesundaysatspace

[JonnyF]

Excellent news, a clean Brexit .

 

We can sort out a trade deal later when the EU bureaucrats have stop sulking about Britain rejecting their doomed, federalist project.

 

Fortunately we just dodged a bullet of 100 Billion Euros to bail out the pauper countries from C19. We got out just in time. Thank god Corbyn was dumb enough to agree to a General Election ????.  Thanks Jezza.

[Andrew65]

4 minutes ago, mrfill said:

I'm afraid the current population of Africa is 1.26 billion, not 800m. Accurate figures are so much better to reinforce prejudices.

"Accurate figures are so much better to reinforce prejudices".

Or less so? You're contradicting yourself?

[welovesundaysatspace]

54 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

The population of Africa is predicted by the UN to triple by 2050, from 800 million now, to 2.4 billion. I don't think economic growth will come even close to compensating. The Med is gonna continue to be very busy with small boats.

Another “untapped market” for Brexiteers to make trade deals with after China, EU, and US have failed. 

 

[david555]

And now brexfast breakfast … keep up the brexiteering as it ends soon  Tik Tok ……. and next stage kick,s in 

by, until later

[evadgib]

46 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said:

Maybe I'm missing something, but doesn't the UN state that refugees should seek asylum in the first safe country they arrive in?

 

Seems a stretch to say they trek across Europe to find the country they 'want' to be in, and thats not a problem.

 

But I'm an American we have out own immigration problems, but seems to me, if illegal immigrants or refugees land on EU territory it's for EU countries to sort out, not the UK

UK is hamstrung by what is called the 2nd Dublin agreement. I'm not familiar with details but it seems to be a catch 22 preventing UK backloading uninvited guests to their last safe haven which for 99% is FRANCE.

HTH

 

Edited July 22, 2020 by evadgib

[Andrew65]

2 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Another “untapped market” for Brexiteers to make trade deals with after China, EU, and US have failed. 

 

The EU has been in discussions with the African Union in recent times, I suspect they were discussing how many people they're going to let in, I'm not sure how the Italian people feel about this.

"The African Union and European Union promote a constructive and multidimensional approach to migration that complements existing dialogues and frameworks."

[david555]

11 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Excellent news, a clean Brexit .

 

We can sort out a trade deal later when the EU bureaucrats have stop sulking about Britain rejecting their doomed, federalist project.

 

Fortunately we just dodged a bullet of 100 Billion Euros to bail out the pauper countries from C19. We got out just in time. Thank god Corbyn was dumb enough to agree to a General Election ????.  Thanks Jezza.

I think you have already enough on U.K. hands with your own C19 " moneytree spending out"  to fill up the treasure crate ….!???? 

Edited July 22, 2020 by david555

[welovesundaysatspace]

Just now, Andrew65 said:

The EU has been in discussions with the African Union in recent times, I suspect they were discussing how many people they're going to let in, I'm not sure how the Italian people feel about this.

"The African Union and European Union promote a constructive and multidimensional approach to migration that complements existing dialogues and frameworks."

Yeah. When you already have trade deals with dozens of markets, including your own huge single market, you can move on to next. Let’s see what the UK comes up with once it doesn’t have access to all those trade deals anymore. ???? 

[Andrew65]

1 minute ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Yeah. When you already have trade deals with dozens of markets, including your own huge single market, you can move on to next. Let’s see what the UK comes up with once it doesn’t have access to all those trade deals anymore. ???? 

Further to what I said, the biggest single issue re Brexit was immigration. Much of our industry has long since disappeared anyway.

[Laughing Gravy]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Yeah, sure, now blame it on Labour.

And of course blame the EU.

Boris and his team are perfect, what a joke.

Lets blame it on the Russians as it seems to be the rhetoric now from remainers/anti democratics.

 

What is farcical and idiotic is that on one hand the Russians prevented Scottish independence and then they stopped helped the UK to be independent from the EU.

 

The daftest thing is that some people actually feel it is justified as a reason people had had enough for the corrupt, controlling EU and feel much better if they can blame someone like the Russians.

 

It was the Russians for Trump blah blah. Those who are even entertaining this crazy theory must be doing it to help there damaged ego. I suggest you stop it as people who are clinging onto this like Dominic Greive and the like are embarrassing themselves.

 

Get over it and move on. I suppose it was the Russians that caused the Conservative GE election victory over the commie, socialist Jeremy Corbyn? You see how daft it is!

[Grumpy John]

With all the...I'll be nice and say "immigrants"...that have been allowed into the UK over the last few decades it seems that the Britain of my youth is, if not buried yet, in a hearse on it's way to the cemetery.  Certainly not perfect but London was a interesting and happier place back then.  ????